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@Richva wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@CriticalThinking wrote:

Intelligent people understand there are many aspects to illegal immigration that Trump's Vanity Wall will not solve. But here are some things to think about.

  • Trump's party controlled the White House, Senate, and House for 2 years and never built a wall. After the Dems take over the House, they are blaming them. I'm LOL
  • Almost half of all illegal immigrants came here LEGALLY but their VISA's expired.
  • Most illegal drugs come here through ports of entry, not across the Mexican Border
  • All of the facts above will serve onty to confuse Trump Cult Members.

I do believe that anyone would understand that the realities of immigration are far more diverse and complicated than physical barriers.

 

Is it not possible to discuss the complexities of your accurate statement without the pettiness of the last comment??


The question yet to be answered, is what DO you call a group of people so enthralled by their leader that they would believe irrational statements and ignore facts?  Cult does come to mind. 


Continuing to evade the topic and go personal instead. Well, at least you didn't giggle or post a silly picture.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@CriticalThinking wrote:

Intelligent people understand there are many aspects to illegal immigration that Trump's Vanity Wall will not solve. But here are some things to think about.

  • Trump's party controlled the White House, Senate, and House for 2 years and never built a wall. After the Dems take over the House, they are blaming them. I'm LOL
  • Almost half of all illegal immigrants came here LEGALLY but their VISA's expired.
  • Most illegal drugs come here through ports of entry, not across the Mexican Border
  • All of the facts above will serve onty to confuse Trump Cult Members.

I do believe that anyone would understand that the realities of immigration are far more diverse and complicated than physical barriers.

 

Is it not possible to discuss the complexities of your accurate statement without the pettiness of the last comment??


The question yet to be answered, is what DO you call a group of people so enthralled by their leader that they would believe irrational statements and ignore facts?  Cult does come to mind. 

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

Intelligent people understand there are many aspects to illegal immigration that Trump's Vanity Wall will not solve. But here are some things to think about.

  • Trump's party controlled the White House, Senate, and House for 2 years and never built a wall. After the Dems take over the House, they are blaming them. I'm LOL
  • Almost half of all illegal immigrants came here LEGALLY but their VISA's expired.
  • Most illegal drugs come here through ports of entry, not across the Mexican Border
  • All of the facts above will serve onty to confuse Trump Cult Members.

I do believe that anyone would understand that the realities of immigration are far more diverse and complicated than physical barriers.

 

Is it not possible to discuss the complexities of your accurate statement without the pettiness of the last comment??

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Intelligent people understand there are many aspects to illegal immigration that Trump's Vanity Wall will not solve. But here are some things to think about.

  • Trump's party controlled the White House, Senate, and House for 2 years and never built a wall. After the Dems take over the House, they are blaming them. I'm LOL
  • Almost half of all illegal immigrants came here LEGALLY but their VISA's expired.
  • Most illegal drugs come here through ports of entry, not across the Mexican Border
  • All of the facts above will serve onty to confuse Trump Cult Members.
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69% of Americans Don’t Think Trump's Border Wall Is a Priority, Poll Says

 

While talks of a wall between the U.S. and Mexico border have led to televised shouting matches between national leaders, the rest of America is less divided. More than two-thirds of Americans don’t think the wall should be a priority, according to a new poll by NPR, PBS News Hour and Marist.

 

Only 28% of those polled answered that the border wall should be an immediate priority, while 19% replied it shouldn’t be an immediate priority, and 50% said it shouldn’t be a priority at all.

Of those polled, a vast majority of Democrats—91%—said they didn’t think the wall was an immediate priority or said it was not a priority at all, while 35% of Republicans held that view. Sixty-three percent of Republicans thought the wall was of immediate concern compared to 7% of Democrats.

 

During a meeting with congressional leaders Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer on Tuesday, President Donald Trump proclaimed that he was willing and would be “proud” to let the government shut down on Dec. 21 if Congress doesn’t include funding for a wall in a proposed deal. The plan Pelosi and Schumer presented to the president didn’t include the $5 billion Trump has requested. Schumer left the meeting saying there were many confusing and contradictorystatements by the president.

 

It isn’t the first time Trump has threatened to shut down the government over border security.

Building a wall along the country’s southern border has been a mainstay of Trump’s campaign promises, however, a majority of Americans (57%) think Trump should compromise to avoid gridlock, poll findings revealed. Only 21% agree with Trump’s current tactic of not compromising in favor of building the wall.

 

69% of Americans Don’t Think Trump's Border Wall Is a Priority, Poll Says


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@MaryM328039 wrote:

 

I love hispanics.  I do not love they take jobs, healthcare, etc. from US born-citizens.  I know an hispanic who works in our country only to send his income to his family in Mexico doing no stimulation of our economy.  I am a nice person ahd hate to be saying this, but that does not seem right.


@MaryM328039,

 

I find it interesting that you love "hispanics" and yet you jumble all those people of color from our south into this ONE "lower case" group. If you ARE Caucasian, would YOU like to be referred to as a "caucasian". Would you like to be LUMPED together with the Canadians, the Europeans, and the Russians in the "caucasian" group? How impersonal.

 

But that is how the Republican Party and especially, INDIVIDUAL-1, has gotten us to where we are today. By demonizing groups different than us. Lumping them all together and demonizing them using phrases like "they take jobs and health care from U.S. born citizens".

 

That is only true in INDIVIDUAL-1'S mind and those that follow his xenophobic leadership.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

When they polled border agents on what they needed, more wall was only 4% of the responses.  The biggest ask from the  agents was better tunnel technology.  Maybe Trump is going to pound those slats really, really deep. 

 

He sure is not listening to anything other than answers which support his insane wall idea. 


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/2/border-patrol-agents-back-trump-wall-survey-finds/


So two border agents back trump's wall?  How about the majority of them? "More wall" was 4% of the responses on what our border patrol said they needed.

 

You forget to say that those that support a wall say they support building a wall in "strategic locations". That is quite different than what trump wants to do.

 

Wall !!! Wall !!!  Benghazi !!! Benghazi !!!


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@Richva


@Richva wrote:

When they polled border agents on what they needed, more wall was only 4% of the responses.  The biggest ask from the  agents was better tunnel technology.  Maybe Trump is going to pound those slats really, really deep. 

 

He sure is not listening to anything other than answers which support his insane wall idea. 


So, why wouldn't he demand for money for this problem and hold the entire country hostage????

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@Richva wrote:

When they polled border agents on what they needed, more wall was only 4% of the responses.  The biggest ask from the  agents was better tunnel technology.  Maybe Trump is going to pound those slats really, really deep. 

 

He sure is not listening to anything other than answers which support his insane wall idea. 


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/2/border-patrol-agents-back-trump-wall-survey-finds/

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@mickstuder wrote:

@Soosie wrote:

Here's an idea on the wall that might work.  Build it on the Mexican side and call it foreign aid.


Not bad - if it's built on Maxican land - it becomes property of Mexico.

 

Mexico could pull it all up and sell the steel for a tidy profit - or find a better use for all that steel...

 

 


 

Gottfried von Berlichingen said it 500 years ago - now it is entirely appropriate and deserved for tRump...
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