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Could you guys hold down those screams of desperation a bit?  I was out celebrating all the Democratic victories and need a little time to recover. 

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Panj nailed it with the following comment. "Mighty quiet around here today. Must be waiting 'til later after the talking points come out that explain how it was a fake election and Trump actually won."

 

Is that ever the truth! We know members of the Trump Cult cannot and do not think for themselves. Whatever the Fox and Bretibart talking points are for the day or week, they come to AARP and regurgitate them word for word. That's why I always say Trump supporters aren't very bright. They don't do any independent research and they believe any negative news about their hero is "fake news".

 

But print any negative story about President Obama or Hillary, and they automatically believe it. Remember the one where Hillary was running a satanic child sex operation out of a pizza parlor? And let's not forget Benghazi, where they think State Department civilian Hillary Clinton ordered the military to stand down instead of responding to Benghazi.

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@patriciah559514 wrote:

@Panjandrum wrote:

Mlseker:  wonder who is screaming today?

 

 

Mighty quiet around here today. Must be waiting 'til later after the talking points come out that explain how it was a fake election and Trump actually won.


What does this actually mean? 


You see, when Trump won the electoral college vote, thus making him president, he did NOT with the popular vote.  As a result:

 

  • He falsely claimed he would have won the popular vote except for millions of illegal votes. 
  • Falsely claimed that he won the electoral college vote by the biggest margin in history. 
  • Falsely claimed he had the biggest inauguration crowds in history. 

The expectation is that Trump will claim another fake victory as he tends to lie when he feels inadequate. 

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@Panjandrum wrote:

Mlseker:  wonder who is screaming today?

 

 

Mighty quiet around here today. Must be waiting 'til later after the talking points come out that explain how it was a fake election and Trump actually won.


What does this actually mean? 

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@jimc91 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

Dang !   I saw the title and thought this topic would be about all of the screaming and whining from the Right to distract from Mueller's surveillance and investigations that are getting closer and closer to trump !!!


The closer you look at the Russian involvement the more you see how the Clintons are guilty of the very thing you are accusing Trump of.  No evidence of Trump involved but mountains of evidence now emerging about the Clinton camp!

 

Be careful what you ask for...


Send your concerns to Mueller.


Also suggest: read Trey Gowdy's questionning of Carter Page and think long & hard about what you read.  Trey Gowdy is not known as a liberal. 

And, let go of the fear based commentary: "Be careful what you ask for..."

This is a forum of equals. 

 

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@jfpinlvn wrote:

"(CNN)On November 8, thousands of Americans say they will mark the anniversary of Donald Trump's election by meeting across the country to "scream helplessly at the sky." The Facebook page for the event in New York says 2,500 will attend and 15,000 are interested. I'm skeptical: The mood seems ironic, and the cool weather might put people off. But Trump would love it. He lives for division, he succeeds by driving his opponents mad. Screaming is a concession of defeat.

 

The emotions implied are understandable. Not only was Trump not supposed to win in 2016 on account of his personality and views, but also, by some counts, he didn't win. He lost the popular vote and captured the electoral college so narrowly that but for 80,000 people in three states, he would've lost.

To the liberal mind, he triumphed by error, by accident, by Hillary Clinton's own fault -- forgetting to campaign properly in Michigan the same way that you might forget to fasten a window and, **bleep** it, you let a burglar in. These are the tantalizing "what-ifs" of history that keep us all living on a knife edge. What if James Comey hadn't announced that the FBI was looking at some emails related to Hillary Clinton just days before the election?


The answer is that he did, so deal with it. The Democrats' constant, tortured analysis of what went wrong, howling at the moon in anger or jest, is not only backward-looking but an insult to the voters who made the rational decision to switch to Donald Trump.

 

They aren't all racists. They weren't all duped. They weighed up the candidacies of Trump and Clinton and concluded, on balance, that one represented change and the other continuity.

 

Having Clinton constantly on TV a year later -- like some exiled monarch, still furious with the peasants that threw her out -- only reinforces the sense that the Democrats are less angry with Trump than they're angry with the voters. And that is no way to win a future election.

 

It's a false analysis. Trump didn't win by luck and, although it's too soon to say for definite, I don't think he won by conspiracy either. He won because he identified with the despair of enough people in precisely enough parts of the country. And the very fact that the inspiration for the liberal scream fest came from a Boston Facebook group, now shut down, points to the challenge that many liberals simply don't live in the parts of the country that feel this existential pain.

 

That's not a judgment on liberals: Not everyone who voted for Clinton was a rich, white college student. On the contrary, she won comfortably among those demographics who probably have the strongest claim to be alienated, marginalized and in real need of help, although not as convincingly as Barack Obama did.

 

Meanwhile, Trump, the outsider, managed to identify the concerns of powerful constituencies in the heartland: rising crime, bad infrastructure, war and job loss. Were his solutions the best? Most of the country thought not. Has his time in office begun to turn things around? Slowly, maybe, we hope. But the point is that on that November 8, 2016, Trump spoke to many Democratic voters in a way that the actual Democratic nominee failed to do. Rather than being frustrated at the Republicans for that, it makes more sense to scrutinize the Democratic Party.

 

This is happening: It feels like there might be a reckoning over the charge that Clinton and the DNC "rigged" last year's primaries. But where is the new generation of candidates to challenge Trump in 2020? What is the answer to Trump's new direction in foreign policy and trade? Is there a center-ground to fight on in the culture, a safe space from both televangelists and gender-bending radical pronouns?

 

Trump's popular support has slipped since last year, narrowing and solidifying on the hard-right of American life. The Democrats have to both energize the left and occupy the center, which is very hard to do. But screaming publicly or internally won't help. Liberals risk becoming as obsessed with Trump's election victory as he is -- locked in a never-ending debate about the past, while the rest of the country dreams of moving on."

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/05/opinions/liberals-still-obsessed-by-trumps-victory-timothy-stanley-opi...

 

Will anyone here be joining the liberal screamfest on 11/8?

 

I love the sound of victory. You guys are a hoot...


"Not a judgement on liberals"?  

Liberals are those who do not agree with you on everything 100%?

This kind of thinking / talk will not lead to cooperative work for our country.

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@Fishslayer777 wrote:
Increasingly the Trump haters seem to becoming political zombies. Crazed, out of control, destructive... the democratic version of the politically walking dead.

They're aggressive and bite too. Trump is the cure.

Whew ... bullies on the playground!

 

"Trump haters ... political zombies" / "democratic version ..."

SO easy to substitute: "Trumpeteers ....." / 'Repug ....."

 

Why not thoughtful conversation on important points about serious critical issues vs slamming people via simplistic cartoonish characterizations?

 

Serious times we are facing. 

Why not be serious? 

 

 

 

 

 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

Dang !   I saw the title and thought this topic would be about all of the screaming and whining from the Right to distract from Mueller's surveillance and investigations that are getting closer and closer to trump !!!


No, chas - it's the loony left that still hasn't gotten over not getting their way a years ago so they are going to howl at the moon.

 

 


So Mueller is upset from a year ago and is "howling at the moon"?  I think that the right is upset about Mueller making arrests, serving indictments, and making tracks towards Trump so they are "howling at the moon".


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@jimc91 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

Dang !   I saw the title and thought this topic would be about all of the screaming and whining from the Right to distract from Mueller's surveillance and investigations that are getting closer and closer to trump !!!


The closer you look at the Russian involvement the more you see how the Clintons are guilty of the very thing you are accusing Trump of.  No evidence of Trump involved but mountains of evidence now emerging about the Clinton camp!

 

Be careful what you ask for...


Send your concerns to Mueller.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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@Panjandrum wrote:

Mlseker:  wonder who is screaming today?

 

 

Mighty quiet around here today. Must be waiting 'til later after the talking points come out that explain how it was a fake election and Trump actually won.


Cant be fake. Trump has that voter commssion to get rd of fakes. its doing its job..sorting out fake candidates lol

So it begins.
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