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Current law for illegally entering our country is a misdemeanor that carries a fine, jail, or both. If you didn't know this, now YOU do! Who is this Reb. guy you're always talking about?


Shall I explain to you what your own words mean in a legal manner? or do you think you can understand what I am about to say.
misdemeanors  can carry a fine.  jail   or both.  Now, do you know the difference as to when a misdemeanor only carries a fine and when a misdemeanor can carry a jail sentence?
You speak as  a differential treatment for illegals vs Americans that are thrown in jail. let see  usually the ones that are thrown in jail are parents of children that commit felonies and not misdemeanors. If they commit misdemeanors they can hire an attorney that will have bail put and they will be set free until the courts decide on the sentence.

These people in their majority are seeking asylum and seeking asylum is legal and cannot be construed as jailing a person or even a misdemeanor. NOlw let's go to the ones that crossed illegally those people like other in the country that enter the country with legal visas and then overstay their visas are also considered at that point in time of expiration of their visas illegals.  
so misdemeanors that are treated with jail sentences are individuals that have more than once been sentenced for their misdemeanor and continued to commit the same illegal issue.
Now the first offenders will only require a fine and they are not separated from their children neither Americans or from other countries alike.

Can you actually understand what I have written or will you need an attorney to verify what I have just said.

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It was said on the news no way will they be able to get so many small babies and children back with their parents. Also if parents are sent back to their Countries and the children are still here, then it will will be even harder to get them together.



Who said that?  And was it an opinion or official government spokesperson or media? 


The border Patrol, Sec. of HHS, and others from the Govt. How can you defend what is happening. This is not party it is humanity, and every decent human being living in the USA should rise up in anger over this.


So why did Democrats pass this law that Trump is enforcing?

 

The LAW is not the problem, it was enforced for decades without the humanitarian disaster Der Trumper created and his dupes demand be continued.

 

When we had a sane President prioor to Jan 2015,  families seeking asylum who entered the country illegally were give "ankle bracelets" and a date to appear in Court.

 

Over 96% (could be as high as 99%) of them showed up and were either approved for asylum or deported, but because Republicans blocked all attempts to increase the number of judges hearing the cases, the process could take months or years.

 

The GOPerLords called this "catch and release" and their mindless minions demanded it be stopped because they never bothered to find out what was really going on.

 

So, despite it producing over 96% success at very little cost and keeping families together, Der Trumper ended the program and began locking up the Parents and concentrating the infants and children in contractor operated camps where they have no beds and are given Mylar space blankets for comfort as they sleep on the floor with the only adult they ever see being the guard in the tower overlooking their pathetic camp. All this at a cost of millions ($750 per day per child paid to the contractor) and creating a humanitarian disaster for the United States.

 

Trump supporters find no problem with treating 2 to 10 year-old children this way, something that can only be explained by the total absence of a soul or anything else that might instill compassion for small children.



Both R&D Presidents did not follow the law which Democrats passed saying that the people entering illegally would face a fine, jail, or both. Now Trump follows the law jailing the perps and you and John get upset. Yes he did separate the children which was not part of the law but anyone who is a citizen that is jailed is treated the same. Again, the left wants preferential treatment for illegal aliens?


As all far right enablers you understand none of this, and that leads you to make some really silly posts. The Reb. passed the law back when Truman was President. FACT. The courts got involved in the middle 1990 and  the settlement of that class action suit now governs how the children are handled. Trump removed the children from the parents which was supposed to get them out of the court rules, but it looks like it does not. Trump nor did his idiots handling this know anything about this and all they did was make everything worse. Now they try and get it back the way it was and they will not. The JD filed yesterday in CA Fed. court a motion to try and change court settlement which governs this. That will be fought by other party. The other party has about 150 people now inspecting ever place the kids are. They can do this by court order. First report back is not good for Trump. New thing is there are Kids suicidal, 8month old babies not be treated medically, and some kids being given drugs to calm them. This bomb has yet to drop on this area. Give it a little time. What the parents did in crossing the border is a misdemeanor by law (first time, and just about all of these are 1st time). Most cases are dismissed, and if not the person get a fine totalling $10.00 plus time served waiting to see a judge.


Current law for illegally entering our country is a misdemeanor that carries a fine, jail, or both. If you didn't know this, now YOU do! Who is this Reb. guy you're always talking about?


Yes for a first offence it is a misdemeanor which USA today told us the person can pay a $10.00 fine, and time served waiting for court hearing, and they can be deported. I have said that from day one. You have no understanding of this in anyway shape or form.  I am talking about the far right enablers who support the Trump dictatorship by following every order their leaders give them to destroy the country. The enablers are the most dangerous group in the US today.

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Message 13 of 49

@john258 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@angeleyes64 wrote:

It was said on the news no way will they be able to get so many small babies and children back with their parents. Also if parents are sent back to their Countries and the children are still here, then it will will be even harder to get them together.



Who said that?  And was it an opinion or official government spokesperson or media? 


The border Patrol, Sec. of HHS, and others from the Govt. How can you defend what is happening. This is not party it is humanity, and every decent human being living in the USA should rise up in anger over this.


So why did Democrats pass this law that Trump is enforcing?

 

The LAW is not the problem, it was enforced for decades without the humanitarian disaster Der Trumper created and his dupes demand be continued.

 

When we had a sane President prioor to Jan 2015,  families seeking asylum who entered the country illegally were give "ankle bracelets" and a date to appear in Court.

 

Over 96% (could be as high as 99%) of them showed up and were either approved for asylum or deported, but because Republicans blocked all attempts to increase the number of judges hearing the cases, the process could take months or years.

 

The GOPerLords called this "catch and release" and their mindless minions demanded it be stopped because they never bothered to find out what was really going on.

 

So, despite it producing over 96% success at very little cost and keeping families together, Der Trumper ended the program and began locking up the Parents and concentrating the infants and children in contractor operated camps where they have no beds and are given Mylar space blankets for comfort as they sleep on the floor with the only adult they ever see being the guard in the tower overlooking their pathetic camp. All this at a cost of millions ($750 per day per child paid to the contractor) and creating a humanitarian disaster for the United States.

 

Trump supporters find no problem with treating 2 to 10 year-old children this way, something that can only be explained by the total absence of a soul or anything else that might instill compassion for small children.



Both R&D Presidents did not follow the law which Democrats passed saying that the people entering illegally would face a fine, jail, or both. Now Trump follows the law jailing the perps and you and John get upset. Yes he did separate the children which was not part of the law but anyone who is a citizen that is jailed is treated the same. Again, the left wants preferential treatment for illegal aliens?


As all far right enablers you understand none of this, and that leads you to make some really silly posts. The Reb. passed the law back when Truman was President. FACT. The courts got involved in the middle 1990 and  the settlement of that class action suit now governs how the children are handled. Trump removed the children from the parents which was supposed to get them out of the court rules, but it looks like it does not. Trump nor did his idiots handling this know anything about this and all they did was make everything worse. Now they try and get it back the way it was and they will not. The JD filed yesterday in CA Fed. court a motion to try and change court settlement which governs this. That will be fought by other party. The other party has about 150 people now inspecting ever place the kids are. They can do this by court order. First report back is not good for Trump. New thing is there are Kids suicidal, 8month old babies not be treated medically, and some kids being given drugs to calm them. This bomb has yet to drop on this area. Give it a little time. What the parents did in crossing the border is a misdemeanor by law (first time, and just about all of these are 1st time). Most cases are dismissed, and if not the person get a fine totalling $10.00 plus time served waiting to see a judge.


Current law for illegally entering our country is a misdemeanor that carries a fine, jail, or both. If you didn't know this, now YOU do! Who is this Reb. guy you're always talking about?

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@rker321 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@angeleyes64 wrote:

It was said on the news no way will they be able to get so many small babies and children back with their parents. Also if parents are sent back to their Countries and the children are still here, then it will will be even harder to get them together.



Who said that?  And was it an opinion or official government spokesperson or media? 


The border Patrol, Sec. of HHS, and others from the Govt. How can you defend what is happening. This is not party it is humanity, and every decent human being living in the USA should rise up in anger over this.


So why did Democrats pass this law that Trump is enforcing?


There is no law that Trump is enforcing that says that. It is the Trump policy as outlined by the AG in April, and we were told in MARCH 2017 by Kelly was being planed. This is back up in the legal filing the Govt. made in Federal Court about a week or so ago. They Trump JD called it POLICY. The law they use as the basis for zero T was from the Truman time, and passed by a Reb. Congress and opposed by Truman. Now stop repeating what your sad sorry leaders tell you. They lie. This is a inhumane problem  from Trump and every decent person should rise up against it. It is not Reb. or Dem. it is humanity.


Democrats passed the law that says illegal entry is punishable by fine, jail, or both. In this country, when an adult is jailed, the children go to the spouse or get housed. At the present time, these "children" are getting housed, fed, and educated on our dime ($35K/year), much more than citizens get.

 

Don't listen to the Obama/Hillary cult. They are trying their very best to destroy this country!


Next  time hat you post something like this post, I would appreciate that you actually do some research and then come here and post. otherwise, don't  post things that are quite debatable.  It doesn't sound good  By the way, the babies are now or will be taken to Military installations where the press will not be allowed to see or go to see what is happening to these  babies and how are they are doing.


I did do research. Apparently YOU didn't and don't tell me what I should post ever again and I won't tell you how to post (even though most of your posts are not well thought out or even understandable).

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Message 15 of 49

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@angeleyes64 wrote:

It was said on the news no way will they be able to get so many small babies and children back with their parents. Also if parents are sent back to their Countries and the children are still here, then it will will be even harder to get them together.



Who said that?  And was it an opinion or official government spokesperson or media? 


The border Patrol, Sec. of HHS, and others from the Govt. How can you defend what is happening. This is not party it is humanity, and every decent human being living in the USA should rise up in anger over this.


So why did Democrats pass this law that Trump is enforcing?

 

The LAW is not the problem, it was enforced for decades without the humanitarian disaster Der Trumper created and his dupes demand be continued.

 

When we had a sane President prioor to Jan 2015,  families seeking asylum who entered the country illegally were give "ankle bracelets" and a date to appear in Court.

 

Over 96% (could be as high as 99%) of them showed up and were either approved for asylum or deported, but because Republicans blocked all attempts to increase the number of judges hearing the cases, the process could take months or years.

 

The GOPerLords called this "catch and release" and their mindless minions demanded it be stopped because they never bothered to find out what was really going on.

 

So, despite it producing over 96% success at very little cost and keeping families together, Der Trumper ended the program and began locking up the Parents and concentrating the infants and children in contractor operated camps where they have no beds and are given Mylar space blankets for comfort as they sleep on the floor with the only adult they ever see being the guard in the tower overlooking their pathetic camp. All this at a cost of millions ($750 per day per child paid to the contractor) and creating a humanitarian disaster for the United States.

 

Trump supporters find no problem with treating 2 to 10 year-old children this way, something that can only be explained by the total absence of a soul or anything else that might instill compassion for small children.



Both R&D Presidents did not follow the law which Democrats passed saying that the people entering illegally would face a fine, jail, or both. Now Trump follows the law jailing the perps and you and John get upset. Yes he did separate the children which was not part of the law but anyone who is a citizen that is jailed is treated the same. Again, the left wants preferential treatment for illegal aliens?


As all far right enablers you understand none of this, and that leads you to make some really silly posts. The Reb. passed the law back when Truman was President. FACT. The courts got involved in the middle 1990 and  the settlement of that class action suit now governs how the children are handled. Trump removed the children from the parents which was supposed to get them out of the court rules, but it looks like it does not. Trump nor did his idiots handling this know anything about this and all they did was make everything worse. Now they try and get it back the way it was and they will not. The JD filed yesterday in CA Fed. court a motion to try and change court settlement which governs this. That will be fought by other party. The other party has about 150 people now inspecting ever place the kids are. They can do this by court order. First report back is not good for Trump. New thing is there are Kids suicidal, 8month old babies not be treated medically, and some kids being given drugs to calm them. This bomb has yet to drop on this area. Give it a little time. What the parents did in crossing the border is a misdemeanor by law (first time, and just about all of these are 1st time). Most cases are dismissed, and if not the person get a fine totalling $10.00 plus time served waiting to see a judge.

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@angeleyes64 wrote:

It was said on the news no way will they be able to get so many small babies and children back with their parents. Also if parents are sent back to their Countries and the children are still here, then it will will be even harder to get them together.



Who said that?  And was it an opinion or official government spokesperson or media? 


The border Patrol, Sec. of HHS, and others from the Govt. How can you defend what is happening. This is not party it is humanity, and every decent human being living in the USA should rise up in anger over this.


So why did Democrats pass this law that Trump is enforcing?


There is no law that Trump is enforcing that says that. It is the Trump policy as outlined by the AG in April, and we were told in MARCH 2017 by Kelly was being planed. This is back up in the legal filing the Govt. made in Federal Court about a week or so ago. They Trump JD called it POLICY. The law they use as the basis for zero T was from the Truman time, and passed by a Reb. Congress and opposed by Truman. Now stop repeating what your sad sorry leaders tell you. They lie. This is a inhumane problem  from Trump and every decent person should rise up against it. It is not Reb. or Dem. it is humanity.


Democrats passed the law that says illegal entry is punishable by fine, jail, or both. In this country, when an adult is jailed, the children go to the spouse or get housed. At the present time, these "children" are getting housed, fed, and educated on our dime ($35K/year), much more than citizens get.

 

Don't listen to the Obama/Hillary cult. They are trying their very best to destroy this country!


Next  time hat you post something like this post, I would appreciate that you actually do some research and then come here and post. otherwise, don't  post things that are quite debatable.  It doesn't sound good  By the way, the babies are now or will be taken to Military installations where the press will not be allowed to see or go to see what is happening to these  babies and how are they are doing.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@angeleyes64 wrote:

It was said on the news no way will they be able to get so many small babies and children back with their parents. Also if parents are sent back to their Countries and the children are still here, then it will will be even harder to get them together.



Who said that?  And was it an opinion or official government spokesperson or media? 


The border Patrol, Sec. of HHS, and others from the Govt. How can you defend what is happening. This is not party it is humanity, and every decent human being living in the USA should rise up in anger over this.


So why did Democrats pass this law that Trump is enforcing?

 

The LAW is not the problem, it was enforced for decades without the humanitarian disaster Der Trumper created and his dupes demand be continued.

 

When we had a sane President prioor to Jan 2015,  families seeking asylum who entered the country illegally were give "ankle bracelets" and a date to appear in Court.

 

Over 96% (could be as high as 99%) of them showed up and were either approved for asylum or deported, but because Republicans blocked all attempts to increase the number of judges hearing the cases, the process could take months or years.

 

The GOPerLords called this "catch and release" and their mindless minions demanded it be stopped because they never bothered to find out what was really going on.

 

So, despite it producing over 96% success at very little cost and keeping families together, Der Trumper ended the program and began locking up the Parents and concentrating the infants and children in contractor operated camps where they have no beds and are given Mylar space blankets for comfort as they sleep on the floor with the only adult they ever see being the guard in the tower overlooking their pathetic camp. All this at a cost of millions ($750 per day per child paid to the contractor) and creating a humanitarian disaster for the United States.

 

Trump supporters find no problem with treating 2 to 10 year-old children this way, something that can only be explained by the total absence of a soul or anything else that might instill compassion for small children.



Both R&D Presidents did not follow the law which Democrats passed saying that the people entering illegally would face a fine, jail, or both. Now Trump follows the law jailing the perps and you and John get upset. Yes he did separate the children which was not part of the law but anyone who is a citizen that is jailed is treated the same. Again, the left wants preferential treatment for illegal aliens?

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@angeleyes64 wrote:

It was said on the news no way will they be able to get so many small babies and children back with their parents. Also if parents are sent back to their Countries and the children are still here, then it will will be even harder to get them together.



Who said that?  And was it an opinion or official government spokesperson or media? 


The border Patrol, Sec. of HHS, and others from the Govt. How can you defend what is happening. This is not party it is humanity, and every decent human being living in the USA should rise up in anger over this.


So why did Democrats pass this law that Trump is enforcing?

 

The LAW is not the problem, it was enforced for decades without the humanitarian disaster Der Trumper created and his dupes demand be continued.

 

When we had a sane President prioor to Jan 2015,  families seeking asylum who entered the country illegally were give "ankle bracelets" and a date to appear in Court.

 

Over 96% (could be as high as 99%) of them showed up and were either approved for asylum or deported, but because Republicans blocked all attempts to increase the number of judges hearing the cases, the process could take months or years.

 

The GOPerLords called this "catch and release" and their mindless minions demanded it be stopped because they never bothered to find out what was really going on.

 

So, despite it producing over 96% success at very little cost and keeping families together, Der Trumper ended the program and began locking up the Parents and concentrating the infants and children in contractor operated camps where they have no beds and are given Mylar space blankets for comfort as they sleep on the floor with the only adult they ever see being the guard in the tower overlooking their pathetic camp. All this at a cost of millions ($750 per day per child paid to the contractor) and creating a humanitarian disaster for the United States.

 

Trump supporters find no problem with treating 2 to 10 year-old children this way, something that can only be explained by the total absence of a soul or anything else that might instill compassion for small children.


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If  anyone dared to take away my children  I can guarantee you that they would have had to kill me. Because  I would not allow that to happen. 
I feel  so horrified by what is happening to these mothers. that I would like to help in any way I can to reunite them with their children. If they  are deported let us deport them as a family
I have never seen this cruelty in this country before. It is so horrible to see. I have seen many that say OH but this has happened before. 

So what. !!!!!!! is happening now, and we all need to do something about it. the excuse that is ok now because it was done before  doesn't cut it.

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@angeleyes64 wrote:

It was said on the news no way will they be able to get so many small babies and children back with their parents. Also if parents are sent back to their Countries and the children are still here, then it will will be even harder to get them together.



Who said that?  And was it an opinion or official government spokesperson or media? 


The border Patrol, Sec. of HHS, and others from the Govt. How can you defend what is happening. This is not party it is humanity, and every decent human being living in the USA should rise up in anger over this.


So why did Democrats pass this law that Trump is enforcing?


There is no law that Trump is enforcing that says that. It is the Trump policy as outlined by the AG in April, and we were told in MARCH 2017 by Kelly was being planed. This is back up in the legal filing the Govt. made in Federal Court about a week or so ago. They Trump JD called it POLICY. The law they use as the basis for zero T was from the Truman time, and passed by a Reb. Congress and opposed by Truman. Now stop repeating what your sad sorry leaders tell you. They lie. This is a inhumane problem  from Trump and every decent person should rise up against it. It is not Reb. or Dem. it is humanity.


Democrats passed the law that says illegal entry is punishable by fine, jail, or both. In this country, when an adult is jailed, the children go to the spouse or get housed. At the present time, these "children" are getting housed, fed, and educated on our dime ($35K/year), much more than citizens get.

 

Don't listen to the Obama/Hillary cult. They are trying their very best to destroy this country!


They did not fact. You post a total lie. This has been covered by the lawyers over and over again. There has been no change in the law, and no other President ever did this Reb. or Dem. What changed was the policy enforcing the law,


John, you are right for once. Trump decided to enforce the law that Democrats passed and neglected to enforce!


You can not even get that straight. Trump put his policy in place which call for stealing the kids. Let me repeat what TRUMP DID WAS PUT INTO PLACE WHAT HE THOUGHT THE LAW SAID. That lasted about 2 days then the people said that is not what the law said, and Trump went back  to what all other presidents, and courts read the law said. See the far right enablers can not even get that correct. As the co Author of Trumps book told us on TV last night about the Trump enablers: They have never had their freedoms taken away from them before, and they think this big tough talking guy is going to help them. The enablers are just stupid. Go watch it on TV.

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