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So the MORE important thing to watch is the tax reform legislation and where things get cut in order to make it budget neutral.

 

Yeah so in other word tax cuts = budget cuts if Congress wants to make the budget neutral.

 

So something in the budget is going to be cut, we can assume it won't be military spending.

 

Medicaid and the like seem like the most likely targets to me, generally speaking the poor don't fight back.

 

Course they could just pile on more debt. However that means tax cuts = more debt .......... duh right?

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Sure  why not. !!!!!  let this Republican Party gut, slash,  voucherized any of those programs and then when the idiots that support all of thos people see, what is going to do to them. only them they will understand but it will be too late.
Like I have always said, We finally have the government that we desere.

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   This is just another to the GOP genocidical plans for those who are not working ( children and retirees in nursing homes)

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NOTHAPPENING wrote:

Olderscout66 wrote:

 

 

Republicans love it, think it's a sign of Freedom, and will gut Medicaid AND MEDICARE just to be able to say they made Government smaller. The ONLY way to end this madness is to get them OUT of elected office.


Republicans will never gut Medicare since it is a paid for program.  On the other hand, Democrats will be happy to take the Medicare away from those people that paid for it and actually could afford their own insurance preferring that the Republicans money be used for Democrats instead. The only way to prevent this is keep Democrats OUT OF OFFICE!


So you like a President with mental problems, and his own Sec. of State called a **bleep**. Reb. Senator tells us 3 people in cabinet are keeping him from taking us into total chaos. Reb. in congress wanting to take away health coverage from up to 32 million. President who makes N.K leader look like a statesman. Wants tax cut for top 1%, and wants the middle class to pay for it. Has the support of the KKK, has been shown to lie more than any other president in history. Is so cooked no US bank would lend him money so he went to Russia for it, and got it for his business. Defrauded people at Trump U and had to pay them 25 million. How does it feel to be a destroyer of the US a country which our forefathers built to greatness.

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Olderscout66 wrote:

 

 

Republicans love it, think it's a sign of Freedom, and will gut Medicaid AND MEDICARE just to be able to say they made Government smaller. The ONLY way to end this madness is to get them OUT of elected office.


Republicans will never gut Medicare since it is a paid for program.  On the other hand, Democrats will be happy to take the Medicare away from those people that paid for it and actually could afford their own insurance preferring that the Republicans money be used for Democrats instead. The only way to prevent this is keep Democrats OUT OF OFFICE!

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GailL1 wrote:

rker321 wrote:

Gail,  I am glad that you at least recognize that is all a game. A game that will prove disastrous for many, but still a game.
It is a pity that they don't   have to participate on any of the plans that they are slashing.


I think some of them are on Medicare - some of them are over 65, ya know - at least Part A. 


No doubt about that Gail the only problem is that they all have the ability to be able to pay for a good Medigat programs. whicn many cannot afford.

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GailL1 wrote:

It is actually just a way to set the stage for the tax reform legislation.  You do know that politics is played like a game - the set up has to be correct for the play to be successful.  Been a very long time since a budget was binding.

 

WP 10/05/2017 - House passes GOP budget in key step for upcoming tax debate

 

The 2018 House GOP budget reprises a controversial plan to turn Medicare into a voucher-like program for future retirees as well as the party’s efforts to repeal the “Obamacare” health law. Republicans controlling Congress have no plans to actually implement those cuts while they pursue their tax overhaul.

 

That’s especially so in the Senate, where the Budget Committee on Thursday gave party-line approval to a companion plan.

 

Instead, the nonbinding budget’s chief purpose is to set the stage for a tax overhaul plan. . . .

 

. . . . The House measure, passed by a near party-line vote of 219-206, calls for more than $5 trillion in spending cuts over the coming decade, promising to slash Medicaid by about $1 trillion over the next 10 years, cutting other health care costs, and forcing huge cuts to domestic programs funded in future years by Congress.

 

. . . . But Republicans are not actually planning to impose any of those cuts with follow-up legislation that would be required under Washington’s Byzantine budget rules. Instead, those GOP proposals for spending cuts are limited to nonbinding promises, and even a token 10-year, $200 billion spending cut package demanded by tea party House Republicans appears likely to be scrapped in upcoming talks with the Senate.

 

Instead, the motivating force behind the budget measures is the Republicans’ party-defining drive to cut corporate and individual tax rates and rid the tax code of loopholes . . . . . . .

~ read more at the link ~

 

So the MORE important thing to watch is the tax reform legislation and where things get cut in order to make it budget neutral.


The article you posted does tell the story. You called this tax reform legislation. It is not that and even the Reb. admit that. It is tax cutting legislation. The very top make a lot of money with what they want to do. Trump would have paid 31 million less in taxes per his only public tax return if this was in place. His kids would make billions when he passes. This is the far right in action, and they have been doing this sort of thing for years. So we should all thank the far right reb who voted for Trump and the people they sent to congress like Tom Price. He was from GA and like the Gov. of GA liked the let them die in the street message. Now the country saves nothing by cutting medicaid. It just shifts the cost in fact it will increase the amount spent on health care. The people the far right throw off will go to the ER and as Gail has explained before be treated as per law. ER care is the most expense  care there is. Who pays for that. We all will through higher insurance prem., taxes (state, Fed., local). The answer to solve the problem is get rid of the far right Reb. who push this on the average person. Until that happens you can post from now to the end of time. You can post all the articles from all sources. It will change nothing. Vote to throw out Trump and his far right reb. supporters and the change will start to happen the next day. Sad to see people waste their time proving they really do not understand this problem. Well could be we all feel better with finger fatigue.

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Folks, Republicans will slash programs that benefit the 99% so long as they have the power to do so, and their base is too dense to realize what's being done to them and their kids. Face it, Reagan pretended to pay for his taxscam by killing revenue sharing, which is why your kids now pay hundreds of bucks every year for the textbooks for your grandkids that were free before Ronnie redistributed the money to his owners, made college unafordable and added nearly $200Billion to the anual cost of servicing the National Debt, all so the top 1% could get an extra $1.4 Trillion last year.

 

Republicans love it, think it's a sign of Freedom, and will gut Medicaid AND MEDICARE just to be able to say they made Government smaller. The ONLY way to end this madness is to get them OUT of elected office.

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mandm84 wrote:

Drain the Swamp Plutocrats , but 99% of America wont forget come election time and your Greed will all come back to haunt you. The GOP should remember that they dont only represent the Wealthy , even though they're paid off to.

Again Republican's, when is enough $$$ for the Insanely Wealthy enough , especially at the expense of our Disabled and Senior's ???


mandm84 - The disabled and Seniors are almost all members of the hated 47% who don't have enough income to pay federal income taxes, so don't even imagine any Republican will have a problem shafting them into even greater poverty - after all, redistributing money from the Middle Class was so amazingly lucrative for the owners of the GOP, why not go after the wealth of the LEAST wealthy as well? Republicans will tell you its okay and it will all dribble back down to you...eventually.

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rker321 wrote:

Gail,  I am glad that you at least recognize that is all a game. A game that will prove disastrous for many, but still a game.
It is a pity that they don't   have to participate on any of the plans that they are slashing.


I think some of them are on Medicare - some of them are over 65, ya know - at least Part A. 

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