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@Laurie42010 wrote:

And what we also have learned is that the right is all okay with our leaders statement that he believes Putin over the US.  Well.....isn't that just so patriotic!  From what I am hearing/reading it sure sounds like the Republican's will side with Russia over anyone who is not in agreement with this Administration or their party. They will put Russia over our sacred voting processes...relieve some sanctions against Russia....oh why isn't that patriotic!


How did it get to this and what can be done ........... that is the question.  The only way anything will be done is to get a Democratic majority in the Senate and the House.  The Republicans should be ashamed for not standing up to trump, and the Democrats dang well need to.

 

We need a Blue Wave !!!


Well, I seen last night the President's lawyer (Giuliani) starting to spread the seeds that the whole Mueller report is a partisan report and to be seen as a false narrative. With that type of hypnosis going on, even with the most transparency there could be, we will not get the followers of Trump to ever believe that he has done nothing but deceive the people...intimidate his own administration and then use the "I can't recall/remember" answer instead of pleading the 5th.

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@Laurie42010 wrote:

And what we also have learned is that the right is all okay with our leaders statement that he believes Putin over the US.  Well.....isn't that just so patriotic!  From what I am hearing/reading it sure sounds like the Republican's will side with Russia over anyone who is not in agreement with this Administration or their party. They will put Russia over our sacred voting processes...relieve some sanctions against Russia....oh why isn't that patriotic!


How did it get to this and what can be done ........... that is the question.  The only way anything will be done is to get a Democratic majority in the Senate and the House.  The Republicans should be ashamed for not standing up to trump, and the Democrats dang well need to.

 

We need a Blue Wave !!!


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And what we also have learned is that the right is all okay with our leaders statement that he believes Putin over the US.  Well.....isn't that just so patriotic!  From what I am hearing/reading it sure sounds like the Republican's will side with Russia over anyone who is not in agreement with this Administration or their party. They will put Russia over our sacred voting processes...relieve some sanctions against Russia....oh why isn't that patriotic!

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Mueller report shows Russians, Trump camp were friends with benefits. Collusion by another name?
Analysis: Mueller didn't find a conspiracy he could prove, but did show that the Russians and the Trump team pursued a relationship during the election and after.
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April 18, 2019, 5:10 PM CDT
By Ken Dilanian

 

WASHINGTON — To charge a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, Robert Mueller decided he had to prove the existence of an explicit, corrupt agreement between the two sides. It wasn't enough, his report said, that the Trump campaign and Russia were acting out of mutual interest.

Mueller said he didn't find a conspiracy he could prove. But he did establish in painstaking detail that the Russians and the Trump campaign pursued a relationship of mutual benefit during the election campaign — and afterward.

 

Some might argue that verges on a different sort of collusion.

"The report reveals that there was an awful lot of contact between people in Trump world and Russians, and there appears to be at least some attempt at coordination," said Greg Brower, a former U.S. attorney during the George W. Bush administration and senior FBI official. "One could argue you put all that together, it looks like collusion."

The report says, "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

But it also says that "the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts."

 

And after the Russians helped Trump get elected though efforts that were apparent to the Trump campaign, the report says, the Russians reached out to members of the Trump transition team, including the president's son-in-law, ostensibly seeking the fruits of their labors. After a backchannel meeting in the Seychelles, the head of Russia's sovereign wealth fund passed a friend of the president's son-in-law a two-page document proposing how the Trump administration could promote "U.S.-Russia reconciliation."

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Two days before Trump took office, the document found its way to Jared Kushner, who promptly passed it along to incoming White House adviser Steve Bannon and incoming Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.

The Mueller report is "a damning account of a wildly successful Russian influence operation from start to finish," said Clint Watts, a former FBI agent and social media expert. "The Russian approach was, 'Let's reset foreign policy relations with the United States in a way that we're getting everything we want,' and they were pursuing that on multiple fronts."

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Yet there are many new details and some new incidents. There was a second offer of help from the Russians "to provide negative information about candidate Clinton to the Trump Campaign," the report says, but the particulars are redacted because the matter remains under investigation. That may or may not relate to something that happened with Trump associate Roger Stone, who was absent from the report because he has been accused of lying to the FBI and the case is still pending.

"The Russian contacts consisted of business connections, offers of assistance to the campaign, invitations for candidate Trump and Putin to meet in person, invitations for campaign officials and representatives of the Russian government to meet, and policy positions seeking improved U.S.-Russian relations," the Mueller report says.

Many are well known by now: Michael Cohen's interactions with Vladimir Putin's office over a Trump Tower in Moscow. George Papadopoulos, who told the Greek foreign minister the Russians had Clinton's emails, sought to broker a meeting between Trump and Russian president Vladimir Putin.

 

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/mueller-report-shows-russians-trump-camp-were-fri...


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