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The mueller investigation is turning up related crimes, well within its mandate. Yet, as regards mueller, you oppose the investigation into how deep that influence really was? have you changed your stance, or are you just blowing smoke?


Let's consider Flynn - was that a "related crime" or a "created crime"?


Still want us to only know about SOME of Der Trumper's crimes I see. In answer to your (absurd) question: Flynn CREATED the crime when he committed it. Mueller discovered the crime because it is RELATED to Russia's fixing the election for Lemontop.

 

How is getting knobbers from a consenting female adult RELATED to selling real estate by the Whitewater Development Corporation? Seems obvious THAT connection was CREATED out of whole cloth by Gowdy Doody and his manic band of ninnies.


Occasionally it makes sense to follow a discussion before offering your one cent. Flynn's crime was not "related" to "Russian collusion" - it is related to and created by the investigation itself. Not that I approve of lying to the FBI, but that is not what the post was about. Just for kicks read MIseker's post - you'll understand.

 

As to the rest - how do Whitewater, knobbers, and some one named "Gawdy Doody" relate to to Russian hacking? Hey, you might as well throw the Reagan tax cuts in too.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@MIseker wrote:



The mueller investigation is turning up related crimes, well within its mandate. Yet, as regards mueller, you oppose the investigation into how deep that influence really was? have you changed your stance, or are you just blowing smoke?


Let's consider Flynn - was that a "related crime" or a "created crime"?


Still want us to only know about SOME of Der Trumper's crimes I see. In answer to your (absurd) question: Flynn CREATED the crime when he committed it. Mueller discovered the crime because it is RELATED to Russia's fixing the election for Lemontop.

 

How is getting knobbers from a consenting female adult RELATED to selling real estate by the Whitewater Development Corporation? Seems obvious THAT connection was CREATED out of whole cloth by Gowdy Doody and his manic band of ninnies.

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After 4 indictments, the reports of 18 intelligence agencies, and now this information, it proves members of the Trump Cult really do live in an alternate reality.

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Can you blame them for at least being suspicious?

 

Just for the record...

 

Correction: June 29, 2017


"A White House Memo article on Monday about President Trump’s deflections and denials about Russia referred incorrectly to the source of an intelligence assessment that said Russia orchestrated hacking attacks during last year’s presidential election. The assessment was made by four intelligence agencies — the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency. The assessment was not approved by all 17 organizations in the American intelligence community." - New York Times - June 29, 2017

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/25/us/politics/trumps-deflections-and-denials-on-russia-frustrate-ev...

 


I don't believe that anyone is arguing that the Russians did not hack. The question is did it have any effect? 

 

Frankly, while our government must do all it can to protect us from all foreign hacking of every type, I am more concerned with the interference in our elections by corrupt officials of our own government.


The mueller investigation is turning up related crimes, well within its mandate. Yet, as regards mueller, you oppose the investigation into how deep that influence really was? have you changed your stance, or are you just blowing smoke?


Let's consider Flynn - was that a "related crime" or a "created crime"?

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@MIseker wrote:

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  Ignoblers are in full denial today.    They seem to want to both deny that the Russians hacked into the election process, as they have spent the past year screaming that it didn't happen, and are so disconnected from the factual world that they then swing to blaming President Obama, you know, JIC.  .    Do they realize that they are throwing out their 'version of facts" that are mutually opposed to one another?    

     Are these ignoble people so disconnected that they have no memory of anything that dares to represent reality.

 

    So which is it?    Are these folks good with Foreign hacking of State elections?

 

    I have seen no one claim there was no hacking. so who are these ignobles that have your panties in a wad?

 

Seems like you are making up people to whine about.

 

   


 


It worked too. You are whining again.

 


Pointing out a factual error in a post is whining?? You do have a strange definition of words.

 

But more important, what about false claim in afischer's post - any thoughts on that?


You are whining about his factual opinion. 

 


factual opinion?? Oh my......

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Trump Lovers are putting forth a logically flawed and irrelevant argument in their feeble attempt to defend their hero at all costs. What's happening now is not about the election, it's about a complex series of events which are threatening our democracy. 

 

Members of the Trump Cult cannot point out any actions by their hero to do anything about Russian interference in our elections. I wonder if they can point out anything he said about Russian interference in our elections. Let's go back in time to the beginning of the Trump Administration to remind everyone how Trump perceives the Russian issue.

 

Let's examine the facts.

  • Donald Trump hired a campaign manager who is a FOREIGN AGENT.
  • Donald Trump chose a FOREIGN AGENT (someone who's working for a foreign government) to be the National Security Advisor. (Personal Opinion: Unbelievable!)
  • Donald Trump demanded the Director of the FBI pledge loyalty to him instead of the Constitution.
  • Donald Trump asked the Director of the FBI to stop an investigation of his National Security Advisor, the FOREIGN AGENT mentioned above.
  • When the Director of the FBI refused to pledge loyality to Trump or to stop the investigation of the National Security Advisor, TRUMP FIRED HIM.

I have no idea what the techs are doing to deal with the hacking issue, do you? By the same token, the Obama Administration was informed of it happening, what did he do?

 

The bottom line is that hacking by foreign interest is and has been a serious issue for some time, far to serious to be no more than another part of the childish "cult" and "hero" game.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@gordyfl wrote:

After 4 indictments, the reports of 18 intelligence agencies, and now this information, it proves members of the Trump Cult really do live in an alternate reality.

_______________________________________

Can you blame them for at least being suspicious?

 

Just for the record...

 

Correction: June 29, 2017


"A White House Memo article on Monday about President Trump’s deflections and denials about Russia referred incorrectly to the source of an intelligence assessment that said Russia orchestrated hacking attacks during last year’s presidential election. The assessment was made by four intelligence agencies — the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency. The assessment was not approved by all 17 organizations in the American intelligence community." - New York Times - June 29, 2017

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/25/us/politics/trumps-deflections-and-denials-on-russia-frustrate-ev...

 


I don't believe that anyone is arguing that the Russians did not hack. The question is did it have any effect? 

 

Frankly, while our government must do all it can to protect us from all foreign hacking of every type, I am more concerned with the interference in our elections by corrupt officials of our own government.


The mueller investigation is turning up related crimes, well within its mandate. Yet, as regards mueller, you oppose the investigation into how deep that influence really was? have you changed your stance, or are you just blowing smoke?

So it begins.
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@rk9152 wrote:

@MIseker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@afisher wrote:

  Ignoblers are in full denial today.    They seem to want to both deny that the Russians hacked into the election process, as they have spent the past year screaming that it didn't happen, and are so disconnected from the factual world that they then swing to blaming President Obama, you know, JIC.  .    Do they realize that they are throwing out their 'version of facts" that are mutually opposed to one another?    

     Are these ignoble people so disconnected that they have no memory of anything that dares to represent reality.

 

    So which is it?    Are these folks good with Foreign hacking of State elections?

 

    I have seen no one claim there was no hacking. so who are these ignobles that have your panties in a wad?

 

Seems like you are making up people to whine about.

 

   


 


It worked too. You are whining again.

 


Pointing out a factual error in a post is whining?? You do have a strange definition of words.

 

But more important, what about false claim in afischer's post - any thoughts on that?


You are whining about his factual opinion. 

 

So it begins.
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Trump Lovers are putting forth a logically flawed and irrelevant argument in their feeble attempt to defend their hero at all costs. What's happening now is not about the election, it's about a complex series of events which are threatening our democracy. 

 

Members of the Trump Cult cannot point out any actions by their hero to do anything about Russian interference in our elections. I wonder if they can point out anything he said about Russian interference in our elections. Let's go back in time to the beginning of the Trump Administration to remind everyone how Trump perceives the Russian issue.

 

Let's examine the facts.

  • Donald Trump hired a campaign manager who is a FOREIGN AGENT.
  • Donald Trump chose a FOREIGN AGENT (someone who's working for a foreign government) to be the National Security Advisor. (Personal Opinion: Unbelievable!)
  • Donald Trump demanded the Director of the FBI pledge loyalty to him instead of the Constitution.
  • Donald Trump asked the Director of the FBI to stop an investigation of his National Security Advisor, the FOREIGN AGENT mentioned above.
  • When the Director of the FBI refused to pledge loyality to Trump or to stop the investigation of the National Security Advisor, TRUMP FIRED HIM.
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@gordyfl wrote:

After 4 indictments, the reports of 18 intelligence agencies, and now this information, it proves members of the Trump Cult really do live in an alternate reality.

_______________________________________

Can you blame them for at least being suspicious?

 

Just for the record...

 

Correction: June 29, 2017


"A White House Memo article on Monday about President Trump’s deflections and denials about Russia referred incorrectly to the source of an intelligence assessment that said Russia orchestrated hacking attacks during last year’s presidential election. The assessment was made by four intelligence agencies — the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency. The assessment was not approved by all 17 organizations in the American intelligence community." - New York Times - June 29, 2017

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/25/us/politics/trumps-deflections-and-denials-on-russia-frustrate-ev...

 


I don't believe that anyone is arguing that the Russians did not hack. The question is did it have any effect? 

 

Frankly, while our government must do all it can to protect us from all foreign hacking of every type, I am more concerned with the interference in our elections by corrupt officials of our own government.

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