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Rk-The difference is that Mr. Obama is overtly speaking up, which any citizen in any free country is legally able to do. The Russians are running a covert operation specifically meant to derail a candidate who is not of its choosing.


Good point - we know that Obama is attempting to effect the French election; some theorize that the Russians tried to effect ours.



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Rk-The difference is that Mr. Obama is overtly speaking up, which any citizen in any free country is legally able to do. The Russians are running a covert operation specifically meant to derail a candidate who is not of its choosing.


Good point - we know that Obama is attempting to effect the French election; some theorize that the Russians tried to effect ours.


BS!!!!! that  statement cannot be equalized.  If Obama speaks anywhere, there is a big difference than trying to effect an election. Unless you believe that Obama is a man that has and can exercise lots of power of persuation in other countries.. And that would make him quite popular elsewhere. everywehere? 

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Myexper--Is it possible that trump supporters have heard so many thousands of lies spew from trump, FOX, and Breitbart, they have been rendered incapable of recognizing the truth?

 

When even Republican Senators are telling their constituents that the Russians meddled in our election, it is denied.

 

Soo sad--seriously, who doesn't want to know the truth about one's country, rather than clinging to the blatherings of a known pathalogical liar?

 

Soo, soo sad!

 


Did Fox, Breitbart, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, NYT, dailykos, or anyone else show that the Russians had any effect on the outcome?

 

If not, all the "spewing" is not a factor in the elections or the Presidency of Donald Trump.

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How will she know when she gets there if France has no national borders?

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Myexper--RIGHT WING MANTRA– –AT ALL COSTS--- deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny!


Myexper--LEFT WING MANTRA- - AT ALL COSTS---- make it up, make it up, make it up and agree with each other and kudo the lies and attack those who tell uncomfortable truths (and get the "gang" to join in.

A made up ludicrous false accusation rk!!!

 

I have posted  facts .... including statements from two members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) and committee chairman Richard Burr (R-NC) ..... as well as referencing the findings of 17 U.S. INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES!!!

 

 

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just discuss in a friendly manner?

Continued use of made up false accusations and denial of the obvious renders that an impossibility!


 


Any indication that they effected the outcome?

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Nope ..... "We know that" the Russians DID effect our elections ..... While "some" deny it in the face of overwhelming evidence showing Russian interference!


"We" don't "know" that - some spout that.

 


Facts clearly state otherwise rk ......

 

The United States Intelligence Community officially concluded that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 United States elections.

 
LINK:
 
 
 
 
Army of Russian trolls reportedly targeted swing states with anti-Clinton fake news
 
LINK:

 

 


Do you have any proof that any of that effected the election??

Trump won the swing states the Russians targeted with their fake news sites. The Russians wanted Trump to win, their interference was created to achieve that goal and unfortunately Trump was unconstitutionally elected.

 

 

The article said, "Russian trolls may have been involved". If you are going to cite sources, please read the articles, not just the headlines. 

I have read the articles rk, contrary to  your false accusation otherwise.

If you are going to copy sections of an article, please copy it in context with the surrounding text. You conveniently omitted what the article DEFINITELY stated:

 

>>>> According to two members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) and committee chairman Richard Burr (R-NC), hundreds of Russian trolls were paid in 2016 to generate fake news stories about Clinton and target them at voters in key states in an effort to swing the election for Trump.

"There were upwards of a thousand paid internet trolls working out of a facility in Russia, in effect taking over a series of computers which are then called a botnet, that can then generate news down to specific areas," Warner said." <<<<

 

 

 Any indication that they effected the outcome???

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RK--Hearing today on capital hill.  Three hours, not one Senator denied that there was interference.  James Clapper said that the best thing Americans could take away from these hearings is to understand that there was Russian interference.  Lyndey Graham, Republican, came out of the hearings.  On national television said, Yes, there was Russian interference. 

Three hours--many Senators--no denial from one of them--seems they all know something you can't or won't admit. 

SORRY, DENY, DENY, DENY.  The people of your own party admit this happened.  I fail to see why this is so hard for anyone to admit.  There is no denial in the government that this happenef.

The problem some have is that they fear this will lead to findings of  collusion with Russia.  We are not there yet, the investigations are ongoing. 

 


Did anyone define "interference" or state that they had any effect on the outcome. If not, let's move along, cancel the weekly "March for (or against) Whatever", accept that Donald Trump is our President and start working on our common problems in an effort to find common solutions.

 

I also wish we could either define or drop "collusion with Russia". Was Obama colluding with Russia when he asked for time 'til after the elections when he would have more flexibility to disarm America?? Is meeting with world leaders to attempt to find common grounds "colluding"?

 

Yeh, I know - musta been smokin' them "home growns".

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Myexper--Is it possible that trump supporters have heard so many thousands of lies spew from trump, FOX, and Breitbart, they have been rendered incapable of recognizing the truth?

 

When even Republican Senators are telling their constituents that the Russians meddled in our election, it is denied.

 

Soo sad--seriously, who doesn't want to know the truth about one's country, rather than clinging to the blatherings of a known pathalogical liar?

 

Soo, soo sad!

 

Gee, I miss having a real President!!
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@rk9152 wrote:

@pc6063 wrote:

Myexper--RIGHT WING MANTRA– –AT ALL COSTS--- deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny!


Myexper--LEFT WING MANTRA- - AT ALL COSTS---- make it up, make it up, make it up and agree with each other and kudo the lies and attack those who tell uncomfortable truths (and get the "gang" to join in.

A made up ludicrous false accusation rk!!!

 

I have posted  facts .... including statements from two members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) and committee chairman Richard Burr (R-NC) ..... as well as referencing the findings of 17 U.S. INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES!!!

 

 

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just discuss in a friendly manner?

Continued use of made up false accusations and denial of the obvious renders that an impossibility!


 

DUMP TRUMP AND DITCH MITCH TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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@rk9152 wrote:

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@rk9152 wrote:

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Nope ..... "We know that" the Russians DID effect our elections ..... While "some" deny it in the face of overwhelming evidence showing Russian interference!


"We" don't "know" that - some spout that.

 


Facts clearly state otherwise rk ......

 

The United States Intelligence Community officially concluded that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 United States elections.

 
LINK:
 
 
 
 
Army of Russian trolls reportedly targeted swing states with anti-Clinton fake news
 
LINK:

 

 


Do you have any proof that any of that effected the election??

Trump won the swing states the Russians targeted with their fake news sites. The Russians wanted Trump to win, their interference was created to achieve that goal and unfortunately Trump was unconstitutionally elected.

 

 

The article said, "Russian trolls may have been involved". If you are going to cite sources, please read the articles, not just the headlines. 

I have read the articles rk, contrary to  your false accusation otherwise.

If you are going to copy sections of an article, please copy it in context with the surrounding text. You conveniently omitted what the article DEFINITELY stated:

 

>>>> According to two members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) and committee chairman Richard Burr (R-NC), hundreds of Russian trolls were paid in 2016 to generate fake news stories about Clinton and target them at voters in key states in an effort to swing the election for Trump.

"There were upwards of a thousand paid internet trolls working out of a facility in Russia, in effect taking over a series of computers which are then called a botnet, that can then generate news down to specific areas," Warner said." <<<<

 

 

 


 

DUMP TRUMP AND DITCH MITCH TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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