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Russia Hacks French Election - Just Coincidence

Ok so Russia has now Hacked a Candidate running agaisnt another Far Right-Wing Candidate in the French Election and released thousands of Documents meant to help defeat the Moderate running for President and get another Right-Wing Finatic elected in a Major World Power...................................First we had the Right-Wing Freak Show - Theresa May in England - now it's possible we might have another Right-Wing Putin Loving Freak Show in France in none other than Marine le Pen who thinks Putin is a Hero and Donald Trump is the second coming of her Fascist Father - Jean Marie Le Pen

 

Yes Fascist - Read some of his most Right-wing Hate Filled Fear Mongering Comments

 

1.In May 1987, he advocated the forced isolation from society of all people infected with HIV, by placing them in a special "sidatorium".

 

2. On 21 June 1995, he attacked singer Patrick Bruel on his policy of no longer singing in the city of Toulon because the city had just elected a mayor from the National Front. Le Pen said, "the city of Toulon will then have to get along without the vocalisations of singer Benguigui". Benguigui, an Algerian name, is Bruel's birth name.

 

3. In February 1997, Le Pen accused Chirac of being "on the payroll of Jewish organizations, and particularly of the B'nai B'rith"

 

4. Le Pen once made the infamous pun "Durafour-crématoire" ("four crématoire" meaning "crematory oven") about then-minister Michel Durafour, who had said in public a few days before, "One must exterminate the National Front"

 

5. On many occasions, before and after the FIFA World Cup, he claimed that the French World Cup squad contained too many non-white players, and was not an accurate reflection of French society. He went on to scold players for not singing La Marseillaise, saying they were not "French".[

 

6. Le Pen has made several provocative statements concerning the Holocaust which have been interpreted by the legal system as constituting Holocaust denial. He has been convicted of racism or inciting racial hatred at least six times.[20] Thus, on 13 September 1987 he said, "I ask myself several questions. I'm not saying the gas chambers didn't exist. I haven't seen them myself. I haven't particularly studied the question. But I believe it's just a detail in the history of World War II." He was condemned under the Gayssot Act to pay 1.2 million francs

 

7. In 1997, the European Parliament, of which Le Pen was then a member, removed his parliamentary immunity so that Le Pen could be tried by a German court for comments he made at a December 1996 press conference before the German Republikaner party. Echoing his 1987 remarks in France, Le Pen stated: "If you take a 1,000-page book on World War II, the concentration camps take up only two pages and the gas chambers 10 to 15 lines. This is what one calls a detail." In June 1999, a Munich court found this statement to be "minimizing the Holocaust, which caused the deaths of six million Jews," and convicted and fined Le Pen for his remarks.[33] Le Pen retorted ironically: "I understand now that it's the Second World War which is a detail of the history of the gas chambers."

 

The political movement of French presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron said it has been hacked and internal information leaked in a cyber-attack hours before polls re-opened in the country's hugely consequential election.

 

En Marche! said it "was the victim of a massive and coordinated piracy action" and emails, accounting documents, contracts and other materials were disseminated on social media. It said part of the leak involves false documents.

 

"Those who are circulating these documents added false documents to many original documents in order to sow doubt and misinformation," the En Marche! movement said in the statement.

 

The timing of the leak, hours before the statutory final-day campaigning ban came into effect, means Macron will not be able to respond to any potential revelations before Sunday's second-round vote, in which he faces a challenge from far right populist Marine Le Pen.

 

The restriction on campaign activity and local media coverage came into effect at midnight Friday and remains in place until polls close at 8 p.m. (2 p.m. ET) Sunday.

 

France's electoral commission on Saturday told media outlets not to reproduce any information hacked from Macron's campaign, warning that doing so would be a criminal offence, Reuters reported.

 

Source - http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/campaign-french-presidential-candidate-macron-says-it-was-hacked-n...

 

Source - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Marie_Le_Pen#Controversial_statements

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Myexper--Is it possible that trump supporters have heard so many thousands of lies spew from trump, FOX, and Breitbart, they have been rendered incapable of recognizing the truth?

 

When even Republican Senators are telling their constituents that the Russians meddled in our election, it is denied.

 

Soo sad--seriously, who doesn't want to know the truth about one's country, rather than clinging to the blatherings of a known pathalogical liar?

 

Soo, soo sad!

 

Gee, I miss having a real President!!
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@pc6063 wrote:

Myexper--Is it possible that trump supporters have heard so many thousands of lies spew from trump, FOX, and Breitbart, they have been rendered incapable of recognizing the truth?

 

When even Republican Senators are telling their constituents that the Russians meddled in our election, it is denied.

 

Soo sad--seriously, who doesn't want to know the truth about one's country, rather than clinging to the blatherings of a known pathalogical liar?

 

Soo, soo sad!

 


Did Fox, Breitbart, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, NYT, dailykos, or anyone else show that the Russians had any effect on the outcome?

 

If not, all the "spewing" is not a factor in the elections or the Presidency of Donald Trump.

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Myexper--RIGHT WING MANTRA– –AT ALL COSTS--- deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny!

Gee, I miss having a real President!!
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@pc6063 wrote:

Myexper--RIGHT WING MANTRA– –AT ALL COSTS--- deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny!


Myexper--LEFT WING MANTRA- - AT ALL COSTS---- make it up, make it up, make it up and agree with each other and kudo the lies and attack those who tell uncomfortable truths (and get the "gang" to join in).

 

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just discuss in a friendly manner?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@pc6063 wrote:

Myexper--RIGHT WING MANTRA– –AT ALL COSTS--- deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny!


Myexper--LEFT WING MANTRA- - AT ALL COSTS---- make it up, make it up, make it up and agree with each other and kudo the lies and attack those who tell uncomfortable truths (and get the "gang" to join in).

 

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just discuss in a friendly manner?


It is sort of difficult when we all have to deal with "semantics"  manipulative speech or writings" sophisims?  Those things atract the worse of anyone.  

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@Roxanna35 wrote:



@rk9152 wrote:

@pc6063 wrote:

Myexper--RIGHT WING MANTRA– –AT ALL COSTS--- deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny!


Myexper--LEFT WING MANTRA- - AT ALL COSTS---- make it up, make it up, make it up and agree with each other and kudo the lies and attack those who tell uncomfortable truths (and get the "gang" to join in).

 

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just discuss in a friendly manner?


It is sort of difficult when we all have to deal with "semantics"  manipulative speech or writings" sophisims?  Those things atract the worse of anyone.  


Same post - same response.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@pc6063 wrote:

Myexper--RIGHT WING MANTRA– –AT ALL COSTS--- deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny!


Myexper--LEFT WING MANTRA- - AT ALL COSTS---- make it up, make it up, make it up and agree with each other and kudo the lies and attack those who tell uncomfortable truths (and get the "gang" to join in).

 

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just discuss in a friendly manner?



@rk9152 wrote:

@pc6063 wrote:

Myexper--RIGHT WING MANTRA– –AT ALL COSTS--- deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny!


Myexper--LEFT WING MANTRA- - AT ALL COSTS---- make it up, make it up, make it up and agree with each other and kudo the lies and attack those who tell uncomfortable truths (and get the "gang" to join in).

 

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just discuss in a friendly manner?


It is sort of difficult when we all have to deal with "semantics"  manipulative speech or writings" sophisims?  Those things atract the worse of anyone.  

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@Roxanna35 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@pc6063 wrote:

Myexper--RIGHT WING MANTRA– –AT ALL COSTS--- deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny!


Myexper--LEFT WING MANTRA- - AT ALL COSTS---- make it up, make it up, make it up and agree with each other and kudo the lies and attack those who tell uncomfortable truths (and get the "gang" to join in).

 

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just discuss in a friendly manner?



@rk9152 wrote:

@pc6063 wrote:

Myexper--RIGHT WING MANTRA– –AT ALL COSTS--- deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny!


Myexper--LEFT WING MANTRA- - AT ALL COSTS---- make it up, make it up, make it up and agree with each other and kudo the lies and attack those who tell uncomfortable truths (and get the "gang" to join in).

 

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just discuss in a friendly manner?


It is sort of difficult when we all have to deal with "semantics"  manipulative speech or writings" sophisims?  Those things atract the worse of anyone.  


Do you have an example of a "sophism" (I assume that is what you meant) in this discussion?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@pc6063 wrote:

Myexper--RIGHT WING MANTRA– –AT ALL COSTS--- deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny!


Myexper--LEFT WING MANTRA- - AT ALL COSTS---- make it up, make it up, make it up and agree with each other and kudo the lies and attack those who tell uncomfortable truths (and get the "gang" to join in.

A made up ludicrous false accusation rk!!!

 

I have posted  facts .... including statements from two members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) and committee chairman Richard Burr (R-NC) ..... as well as referencing the findings of 17 U.S. INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES!!!

 

 

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just discuss in a friendly manner?

Continued use of made up false accusations and denial of the obvious renders that an impossibility!


 

DUMP TRUMP AND DITCH MITCH TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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@myexper wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@pc6063 wrote:

Myexper--RIGHT WING MANTRA– –AT ALL COSTS--- deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny, deny!


Myexper--LEFT WING MANTRA- - AT ALL COSTS---- make it up, make it up, make it up and agree with each other and kudo the lies and attack those who tell uncomfortable truths (and get the "gang" to join in.

A made up ludicrous false accusation rk!!!

 

I have posted  facts .... including statements from two members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) and committee chairman Richard Burr (R-NC) ..... as well as referencing the findings of 17 U.S. INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES!!!

 

 

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just discuss in a friendly manner?

Continued use of made up false accusations and denial of the obvious renders that an impossibility!


 


Any indication that they effected the outcome?

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RK--Hearing today on capital hill.  Three hours, not one Senator denied that there was interference.  James Clapper said that the best thing Americans could take away from these hearings is to understand that there was Russian interference.  Lyndey Graham, Republican, came out of the hearings.  On national television said, Yes, there was Russian interference. 

Three hours--many Senators--no denial from one of them--seems they all know something you can't or won't admit. 

SORRY, DENY, DENY, DENY.  The people of your own party admit this happened.  I fail to see why this is so hard for anyone to admit.  There is no denial in the government that this happenef.

The problem some have is that they fear this will lead to findings of  collusion with Russia.  We are not there yet, the investigations are ongoing. 

 

Gee, I miss having a real President!!
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@pc6063 wrote:

RK--Hearing today on capital hill.  Three hours, not one Senator denied that there was interference.  James Clapper said that the best thing Americans could take away from these hearings is to understand that there was Russian interference.  Lyndey Graham, Republican, came out of the hearings.  On national television said, Yes, there was Russian interference. 

Three hours--many Senators--no denial from one of them--seems they all know something you can't or won't admit. 

SORRY, DENY, DENY, DENY.  The people of your own party admit this happened.  I fail to see why this is so hard for anyone to admit.  There is no denial in the government that this happenef.

The problem some have is that they fear this will lead to findings of  collusion with Russia.  We are not there yet, the investigations are ongoing. 

 


Did anyone define "interference" or state that they had any effect on the outcome. If not, let's move along, cancel the weekly "March for (or against) Whatever", accept that Donald Trump is our President and start working on our common problems in an effort to find common solutions.

 

I also wish we could either define or drop "collusion with Russia". Was Obama colluding with Russia when he asked for time 'til after the elections when he would have more flexibility to disarm America?? Is meeting with world leaders to attempt to find common grounds "colluding"?

 

Yeh, I know - musta been smokin' them "home growns".

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RK-- Yeah, "some spout that." Some 17 intelligence agencies, which Trump has done everything to discredit because he doesn't want his base to begin to understand that he's the scum that he is.

You know what? let's believe Trump who lies every word out of his mouth. That makes perfect common sense  to me,  if I want to live in a world of ignorant bliss. 

Gee, I miss having a real President!!
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The French are funny. and I have an idea that they are not going to buy the fake news that they are hearing now. There is a blackout of news until after the elections. good idea. we should do something like that here.

I think that they will vote for the guy, I feel that they have gotten concerned with what has happened in the US  and Trump.

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Rker-French officials have actually asked the United States government for help with this problem since we just went through it.

Gee, I miss having a real President!!
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@Roxanna35 wrote:

The French are funny. and I have an idea that they are not going to buy the fake news that they are hearing now. There is a blackout of news until after the elections. good idea. we should do something like that here.

I think that they will vote for the guy, I feel that they have gotten concerned with what has happened in the US  and Trump.


You may be right.  I hope that the French People do not become unduly confident of the outcome and NOT vote.  That is one reason advanced for BREXIT...and we know for certain it is one reason for "the donald".  This AM I heard a discussion about whether or not the US should implement a blackout in OUR elections.  The consensus was that it would not work here.  I concur.  We could re-establish an 'equal-time', 'equal coverage' requirement on the media, top to bottom.  While it wouldn't stop the BS....I really do think it would minimize it.

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There is a real enemy and a real threat 'out there'.  It has been existential since the Russian Revolution.  Reagan did nothing to assuage that reason despite having some success in bringing about a temporary downfall of the regime currently in power. 

 

Guess what?  'Theyyrrrre baaaaaacckkkk'. More precisely,THEY never went away! 

 

We've heard and seen a good bit of chatter about 'cooperating' with the 'unsavory' elements in the world in order to effectively deal with even more unsavory elements.  Sort of a repetition of 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' philosophy. In case anyone is interested, that dates back at least as far a the Fourth Century, BCE.  In Sandskrit, no less.

 

NO-NO-NO!  That is NOT true. It is a distortion to allow ganging up on a common opponent.  As far as I can tell, that approach has always resulted in subsequent conflict.  Seems to be inevitable. 

 

Oft-time that involves your own leader taking positions in support of things creating the conflict in the first place.  Why is that?  Why to manipulate and exploit your own people into doing what you want them to do...no need for oppositions on the 'home front' is there?  Propaganda...BS...Lies. 

 

Dare I point out that doing that sort of thing is the personification of cynical contempt for the people the autocrat professes to love.....AND for the tools [mis-led supporters] he expolits unconscionably in the process. 

 

Your other real enemy's ike minded minions within your own Country seize on that hypocrisy in order to justify its imposition in our very own 'back yard'....AND there go the freedoms real patriots and stateesmen fought and died for to leave for us. 

 

You KNOW that's true!  Always was....always will be.  "The donald" LIES.  It's what he does.  It's what he always will do.  It's what he is.

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UMBARCH--The correct discription of little donnie's lying is compulsive--also known as Pseudologia Fantastica

 

Symptoms--

Lies are believable and may have truthful elements. 

 

The lying continues for a long period of time and is not caused by some immediate pressure of stress

 

The terms pathological and compulsive lying are interchangeable.

(goodtherapy.org)

Compulsive or pathological liars are suffering from a mental health disorder.

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