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@myexper wrote:


Hillary never said she would raise taxes on the middle class

 

 



Then I guess that is why she has renigned on her proposal to raise the SS earnings tax cap to $ 250,000.

Can't have it both ways.

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@myexper wrote:

Please read and understand the past 6 Republican Budgets to see that it is your Republicans who want to "raise taxes on the middle class" ..... AND NOT HILLARY!!!


Please understand that the Donald said he plans on lowering everyones tax and lowering the corporate tax from 35% to 15% while YOUR candidate specifically singled out the middle class for tax INCREASES.

Not true.

Donald would provide massive tax cuts for the wealthy (as you admitted) with minimal tax cuts for the middle class ..... if any.

And if Donald approves the Republican budget, the middle class would suffer MASSIVE TAX HIKES!!

And of course, Hillary will NOT raise taxes on the middle class ..... but Republicans would if they could get their budget passed!

 

 

Here it is folks (with brains) the real original with Hillary saying she was raising taxes on the middle class:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLhqobB-88U

 

Hillary never said she would raise taxes on the middle class NOTHAPPENING. A con artist  doctored up that video to fool misinformed and unsophisticated people ...... and he was evidently successful in that attempt as you continuously demonstrate.

 

So, the "folks" (with brains) that YOU mention already know that this video is completely bogus. So stop insulting their intelligence with a bogus video!!


 

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The Ryan plan was to be limited to 1/3rd of the employee contribution on an INDIVIDUAL VOLUNTARY BASIS

 

And therein lies the problem. To the radical left, individuals are not capable of making such decisions and must be seen to by Big Brother. And, of course, their finances augmented by some sort of "wealth redistribution" system.

 

On the other hand, a similar system has been in effect for federal employees for three decades. And I can tell you, it worked great for me.

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@myexper wrote:

Please read and understand the past 6 Republican Budgets to see that it is your Republicans who want to "raise taxes on the middle class" ..... AND NOT HILLARY!!!


Please understand that the Donald said he plans on lowering everyones tax and lowering the corporate tax from 35% to 15% while YOUR candidate specifically singled out the middle class for tax INCREASES.

 

Here it is folks (with brains) the real original with Hillary saying she was raising taxes on the middle class:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLhqobB-88U

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

As this thread so aptly demonstrates, GOPers have no clue how SS functions nor can they work the simple math to see just what the average worker will have to replace SS with the "partial" privatization plan Republicans want to use to destroy Social Security and hand trillions over to Wall Street to lose just as they lost half the value of everything on the stock exchange thanks to Republican deregulation and unbridled averice.

 

Let's see some RW numbers to show the average worker can retire on an investment of 3.1% of their income, or even replace the SS they will lose when they opt for the Republican Scam.


The Ryan plan was to be limited to 1/3rd of the employee contribution on an INDIVIDUAL VOLUNTARY BASIS and there would be a lot of places which it could be invested - including, as we have often discussed, government securities.

 

If they opt for this measure, their SS benefit computation at retirement would be reduced, similar to the Windfall Elimination Provision.

 

I don't see this as any big decision for people - most, especially in the lower income tier, would not participate in this Voluntary measure.  However, the higher the cap, the higher the progressive computation of benefits, may influence those in the higher income tiers to consider it and determine their own (financial) risk exposure for this investment for their own age.

 

 

 

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@myexper wrote:

Most all "folks" already know the video is bogus .... being thoroughly de-bunked by experts!!! 


It's so bogus that neither YOU or any of the radical left can post the original! 

No need to as what was posted in your youtube link was thoroughly proven bogus.  And once again, the con artist who created the bogus version would never disclose the original version ..... lest his con be exposed.

 

 

Here it is folks (with brains) the real original with Hillary saying she was raising taxes on the middle class:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLhqobB-88U

 

The "folks" you mention already know that this video is completely bogus. So stop insulting their intelligence!!

 

 

 

If the radical left wants to PROVE it's bogus, try and post the original!

As you already know,  the con artist(s) who produced the bogus version have not released the video from which they made the bogus version.

And in any case, the video in your reference was already thoroughly de-bunked by linguistic experts (professors) from the University of Chicago and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. 

Your self proclamation does not exceed the enormous expertise of professors from two highly acclaimed institutions of higher education.


Please read and understand the past 6 Republican Budgets to see that it is your Republicans who want to "raise taxes on the middle class" ..... AND NOT HILLARY!!!

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The Republican's first step in dismantling Social Security is Privatization and the GOP axe will keep chopping until one of  F.D.R's greatest programs for the people is destroyed.

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Tell me of one criminal act, that is a real criminal act that is not only in the minds of the extreme right who call all Democrats criminals. And don't tell me of Benghazi, and e-mails that mean nothing but to the extreme right.  After all how long you can beat a dead horse?

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The fact is SS cannot exist without people working especially the middle class, we now have 95 million

people without jobs and with a Democratic president this number will go higher, it really is that simple.

Jobs are the key to all benefits, while government can print money for a period of time we will go broke

at some point.

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@myexper wrote:

Most all "folks" already know the video is bogus .... being thoroughly de-bunked by experts!!! 


It's so bogus that neither YOU or any of the radical left can post the original!  Here it is folks (with brains) the real original with Hillary saying she was raising taxes on the middle class:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLhqobB-88U

 

If the radical left wants to PROVE it's bogus, try and post the original!

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