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The sticking point is and has been border security barriers. Anything without that is not a serious effort at resolving the issue. Limbaugh is not a factor in that.

 

And, border security is not an ego issue - it is a security issue. And, sadly, from the D perspective a partisan one.


Exactly!  Can someone please explain that to Celebrity President?

 

I have to respectfully disagree with the border security not being an ego issue.  If the conservative talking heads had not raked CP over his 'clean coals' about backing away from a wall, we wouldn't be having this discussion.  (Remember Mitch said there wouldn't be a shutdown, and then his boss blindsided him after Rush and Ann gave Donnie crap?)  I firmly believe it IS all about CP's ego and trying desperately to hang on to his dwindling group of base besties


The issue is the construction of barriers for border security - not coal, not talking heads, not Mitch, not Rush, not Ann, not Donnie(?), not crap, and not besties.

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Define "Clean Bill".

 

Since the sticking point has been funding for border security barriers, what did the "Clean Bill" include in that area?


Clean Bill refers to the Only Credible National Security Issue Facing the Country Right Now

 

US Government Workers - Being Forced to Work Without pay like they are in Russia

 

US Government Workers - Being Told to stay Home while Government Operations Critical to the Safety & Security of the American People are ignored

 

US Government Workers Going 2 Months Without Pay as Trump forces the Government to default on it's Contractual Obligations to them

 

Flights delayed at major Northeast US airports because of staffing, FAA says, as government shutdown drags on

 

At least 14,000 unpaid IRS workers did not show up for work as broad shutdown disruption hits tax agency, according to House aides

 

Source - https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/01/25/least-unpaid-irs-workers-did-not-show-up-work-bro...

 

Source - https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/us/air-traffic-controller-shortage-faa/index.html

 

 

WELL, IT'S TIME FOR PELOSI TO DROP THE PARTISAN GAMES AND START THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR AMERICA.



Pelosi has done her job - TEN TIMES

 

The House has passed 10 Bills to Re-open Government

 

44 Republicans in the Senate including Mitch McConnell blocked all Pelosi's attempts & refused to advance Pelosi's Bills to re-open the Government

 

Those are the FACTS as reported by FOX NEWS

 

The Democrats' plan would have reopened agency doors through Feb. 8 while bargainers seek a budget accord, but included no wall funding. The vote was 52-44 on the Democratic bill, with all Democrats voting yes and several Republicans crossing over, including Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, Maine Sen. Susan Collins, Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski, Colorado Sen. Cory Gardner, Georgia Sen. Johnny Isakson, and Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander. Not voting on the bill were Sens. Richard Burr, Rand Paul, James Risch, and Jacky Rosen.

 

Source - https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-rejects-dueling-gop-democratic-bills-to-end-ongoing-partial-...

 

She has offered no bill dealing with the sticking point. So, all her supposed bills were just partisan propaganda which you seem to have willingly accepted.

 

 

 

 


 

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@mickstuder wrote:

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@rk9152 wrote:

Define "Clean Bill".

 

Since the sticking point has been funding for border security barriers, what did the "Clean Bill" include in that area?


It's "clean" because it has nothing to do with the "sticking points" about security barriers. That is the ONLY objection Rush had about the bill passed by the House and Senate and Limbaugh is the only reason lil donny refused to sign it.

 

It opens everything except Homeland Security, still leaving 240,000 Civil Servants and an undetermined number of contrat workers without a paycheck, but still a vast improvement by releasing 540,000 Civil Servants and probably a million contract workers lil donny is holding hostage to his ego.


The sticking point is and has been border security barriers. Anything without that is not a serious effort at resolving the issue. Limbaugh is not a factor in that.

 

And, border security is not an ego issue - it is a security issue. And, sadly, from the D perspective a partisan one.


Trump had 2 years of Total GOP Majority Control of the Entire Federal Government - to do whatever he wanted with Border Security - all last summer he Whined Daily about Invasions by Hordes of Criminals - going as far as re-deploying & interrupting National Defense Planning by sending 15,000 Active Duty US Military to the Southern Border

 

He has since removed those Active Duty Soldiers from the Southern Border

 

So if your Argument is that there exists Right Now a National Security Emergency so Critical as to require Shutting Down the US Government - Forcing Government Workers to Work without Pay

 

Why hasn't Trump - Done His Job - Why is he Guilty of such a Dereliction of Duty

 

Why hasn't Trump Declared a National Emergency - Tasked out Military to Secure the Border

 

According to you - our Lives are in Danger and the President refuses to take the Necessary Actions within his Authority as Commander and Chief of the Military - Executive of the Federal Government Administration

 

YOU FOLKS CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

 

EITHER IT'S A NATIONAL EMERGENCY AND TRUMP ISN'T DOING HIS JOB OR

 

HE'S LYING

 

 


Learn the Senate rules - they didn't have the numbers.

 

AND THAT IS ONLY HAVING IT ONE WAY.

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Compromise reached for 3 weeks. 

 

T is mumbling now, no wall

 

.http://bipartisanreport.com/2019/01/25/trump-caves-to-democrats-in-wh-rose-garden-shutdown-speech-vi...

 

Yes, there may be sarcasm In the above comment. 

 

Froze

 

 

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The sticking point is and has been border security barriers. Anything without that is not a serious effort at resolving the issue. Limbaugh is not a factor in that.

 

And, border security is not an ego issue - it is a security issue. And, sadly, from the D perspective a partisan one.


Exactly!  Can someone please explain that to Celebrity President?

 

I have to respectfully disagree with the border security not being an ego issue.  If the conservative talking heads had not raked CP over his 'clean coals' about backing away from a wall, we wouldn't be having this discussion.  (Remember Mitch said there wouldn't be a shutdown, and then his boss blindsided him after Rush and Ann gave Donnie crap?)  I firmly believe it IS all about CP's ego and trying desperately to hang on to his dwindling group of base besties



    

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@rk9152 wrote:

@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

Define "Clean Bill".

 

Since the sticking point has been funding for border security barriers, what did the "Clean Bill" include in that area?


Clean Bill refers to the Only Credible National Security Issue Facing the Country Right Now

 

US Government Workers - Being Forced to Work Without pay like they are in Russia

 

US Government Workers - Being Told to stay Home while Government Operations Critical to the Safety & Security of the American People are ignored

 

US Government Workers Going 2 Months Without Pay as Trump forces the Government to default on it's Contractual Obligations to them

 

Flights delayed at major Northeast US airports because of staffing, FAA says, as government shutdown drags on

 

At least 14,000 unpaid IRS workers did not show up for work as broad shutdown disruption hits tax agency, according to House aides

 

Source - https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/01/25/least-unpaid-irs-workers-did-not-show-up-work-bro...

 

Source - https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/us/air-traffic-controller-shortage-faa/index.html

 

 

WELL, IT'S TIME FOR PELOSI TO DROP THE PARTISAN GAMES AND START THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR AMERICA.



Pelosi has done her job - TEN TIMES

 

The House has passed 10 Bills to Re-open Government

 

44 Republicans in the Senate including Mitch McConnell blocked all Pelosi's attempts & refused to advance Pelosi's Bills to re-open the Government

 

Those are the FACTS as reported by FOX NEWS

 

The Democrats' plan would have reopened agency doors through Feb. 8 while bargainers seek a budget accord, but included no wall funding. The vote was 52-44 on the Democratic bill, with all Democrats voting yes and several Republicans crossing over, including Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, Maine Sen. Susan Collins, Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski, Colorado Sen. Cory Gardner, Georgia Sen. Johnny Isakson, and Tennessee Sen. Lamar Alexander. Not voting on the bill were Sens. Richard Burr, Rand Paul, James Risch, and Jacky Rosen.

 

Source - https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-rejects-dueling-gop-democratic-bills-to-end-ongoing-partial-...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

Define "Clean Bill".

 

Since the sticking point has been funding for border security barriers, what did the "Clean Bill" include in that area?


It's "clean" because it has nothing to do with the "sticking points" about security barriers. That is the ONLY objection Rush had about the bill passed by the House and Senate and Limbaugh is the only reason lil donny refused to sign it.

 

It opens everything except Homeland Security, still leaving 240,000 Civil Servants and an undetermined number of contrat workers without a paycheck, but still a vast improvement by releasing 540,000 Civil Servants and probably a million contract workers lil donny is holding hostage to his ego.


The sticking point is and has been border security barriers. Anything without that is not a serious effort at resolving the issue. Limbaugh is not a factor in that.

 

And, border security is not an ego issue - it is a security issue. And, sadly, from the D perspective a partisan one.


Trump had 2 years of Total GOP Majority Control of the Entire Federal Government - to do whatever he wanted with Border Security - all last summer he Whined Daily about Invasions by Hordes of Criminals - going as far as re-deploying & interrupting National Defense Planning by sending 15,000 Active Duty US Military to the Southern Border

 

He has since removed those Active Duty Soldiers from the Southern Border

 

So if your Argument is that there exists Right Now a National Security Emergency so Critical as to require Shutting Down the US Government - Forcing Government Workers to Work without Pay

 

Why hasn't Trump - Done His Job - Why is he Guilty of such a Dereliction of Duty

 

Why hasn't Trump Declared a National Emergency - Tasked out Military to Secure the Border

 

According to you - our Lives are in Danger and the President refuses to take the Necessary Actions within his Authority as Commander and Chief of the Military - Executive of the Federal Government Administration

 

YOU FOLKS CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS

 

EITHER IT'S A NATIONAL EMERGENCY AND TRUMP ISN'T DOING HIS JOB OR

 

HE'S LYING

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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The rest of the GOPers think voters will forget all this by Nov 2020.

Make sure they're WRONG!


 

History is being made. Don't worry, Olderscout66, I doubt a lot of voters, Rep or Dem or Ind, will forget this debacle in a mere 2 years. And didn't the Celebrity President even say he is prepared to keep the government shut down for years?

 

Indeed, there are those who have not forgotten the shutdown of 2013 and its consequences.

 



    

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Donald Trump: I will proudly shut down the government unless I get my border wall.

 

Jan. 4, 2019

 

WASHINGTON — President Trump threatened on Friday to keep the federal government partly closed for “months or even years” if he did not get $5.6 billion for his wall at the southern border.

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@mickstuder wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

Define "Clean Bill".

 

Since the sticking point has been funding for border security barriers, what did the "Clean Bill" include in that area?


Clean Bill refers to the Only Credible National Security Issue Facing the Country Right Now

 

US Government Workers - Being Forced to Work Without pay like they are in Russia

 

US Government Workers - Being Told to stay Home while Government Operations Critical to the Safety & Security of the American People are ignored

 

US Government Workers Going 2 Months Without Pay as Trump forces the Government to default on it's Contractual Obligations to them

 

Flights delayed at major Northeast US airports because of staffing, FAA says, as government shutdown drags on

 

At least 14,000 unpaid IRS workers did not show up for work as broad shutdown disruption hits tax agency, according to House aides

 

Source - https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/01/25/least-unpaid-irs-workers-did-not-show-up-work-bro...

 

Source - https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/25/us/air-traffic-controller-shortage-faa/index.html

 

 

WELL, IT'S TIME FOR PELOSI TO DROP THE PARTISAN GAMES AND START THINKING ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR AMERICA.


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