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In the past King has used the term "Western Civilization) to mean white supremacy and contributions of whites only.  The issue is not how you would define "Western Civilization", but King's warped view of the phrase.


How do you know what he was thinking?

 

But do you find the term to be racist (without mind reading)?


There is no mind reading involved.  It is easy to see his definition based on his past usage of the term.  If you don't understand that, then you are being just as racist and intolerant as he is.  If that is what you really believe, just let us know.

 

Again, it is not how I would define the term, but how a narrow minded bigot defines the term.


A good point and look at how some narrow minded bigots here are defining the term.

 

Too many assume that pride in something - heritage, accomplishment, whatever - implies negativism towards others. They cannot seem to let positive feelings exist as just that.

 

And yet, they will applaud Gay Pride Parades. It is the inconsistency that creates friction.


And that is where the context matters.  You could make the same argument about the word "boy".  It is perfectly acceptable and used in everyday conversation.  However, the same word said by a bigot in the wrong context is prejudiced and racist.


That is true. The problem comes up when people interpret the meaning of others - in cases like this, based purely on the R or the D after his or her name.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@sp362 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@sp362 wrote:


In the past King has used the term "Western Civilization) to mean white supremacy and contributions of whites only.  The issue is not how you would define "Western Civilization", but King's warped view of the phrase.


How do you know what he was thinking?

 

But do you find the term to be racist (without mind reading)?


There is no mind reading involved.  It is easy to see his definition based on his past usage of the term.  If you don't understand that, then you are being just as racist and intolerant as he is.  If that is what you really believe, just let us know.

 

Again, it is not how I would define the term, but how a narrow minded bigot defines the term.


A good point and look at how some narrow minded bigots here are defining the term.

 

Too many assume that pride in something - heritage, accomplishment, whatever - implies negativism towards others. They cannot seem to let positive feelings exist as just that.

 

And yet, they will applaud Gay Pride Parades. It is the inconsistency that creates friction.


And that is where the context matters.  You could make the same argument about the word "boy".  It is perfectly acceptable and used in everyday conversation.  However, the same word said by a bigot in the wrong context is prejudiced and racist.

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Just to clarify - "white supremacy" is not an appropriate term. "White nationalism" - same deal, although several Dems seem to have no problem being photographed with Louis Farrakhan.

 

But, he was also attacked for "Western Civilization". What is wrong with that?


In the past King has used the term "Western Civilization) to mean white supremacy and contributions of whites only.  The issue is not how you would define "Western Civilization", but King's warped view of the phrase.


How do you know what he was thinking?

 

But do you find the term to be racist (without mind reading)?


There is no mind reading involved.  It is easy to see his definition based on his past usage of the term.  If you don't understand that, then you are being just as racist and intolerant as he is.  If that is what you really believe, just let us know.

 

Again, it is not how I would define the term, but how a narrow minded bigot defines the term.


A good point and look at how some narrow minded bigots here are defining the term.

 

Too many assume that pride in something - heritage, accomplishment, whatever - implies negativism towards others. They cannot seem to let positive feelings exist as just that.

 

And yet, they will applaud Gay Pride Parades. It is the inconsistency that creates friction.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@sp362 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

Just to clarify - "white supremacy" is not an appropriate term. "White nationalism" - same deal, although several Dems seem to have no problem being photographed with Louis Farrakhan.

 

But, he was also attacked for "Western Civilization". What is wrong with that?


In the past King has used the term "Western Civilization) to mean white supremacy and contributions of whites only.  The issue is not how you would define "Western Civilization", but King's warped view of the phrase.


How do you know what he was thinking?

 

But do you find the term to be racist (without mind reading)?


There is no mind reading involved.  It is easy to see his definition based on his past usage of the term.  If you don't understand that, then you are being just as racist and intolerant as he is.  If that is what you really believe, just let us know.

 

Again, it is not how I would define the term, but how a narrow minded bigot defines the term.

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    So, the RW is whining about words.    Spencer attempted to re-define White Nationalist to Alt.Right.    Now some are saying that the verbage of  White Nationalists or White Supremists is inaccurate or non-existant, so should we just call them all Ethno Nationalists.   

 

    The point being, whatever verbage that some want to run away from, everyone comprehends exactly what the racists want - a distancing from their racists statements.    Gee, wasn't here that someone posted that the KKK wanted "xyz"...are they going to say that the KKK wasn't spouting ethno nationalist words.

 

    The House voted on a resolution:   the text states that the House “once again rejects White nationalism and White supremacy as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values that define the people of the United States.”

 

    Apparently the RW don't want to acknowledge words that all but one member of House of Representatives all understood and voted for.   hmmmmm


So, who on the right is whining about his words?? And what is this "Ethno nationalist" jazz that has become a new buzz phrase here?

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@sp362 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

Just to clarify - "white supremacy" is not an appropriate term. "White nationalism" - same deal, although several Dems seem to have no problem being photographed with Louis Farrakhan.

 

But, he was also attacked for "Western Civilization". What is wrong with that?


In the past King has used the term "Western Civilization) to mean white supremacy and contributions of whites only.  The issue is not how you would define "Western Civilization", but King's warped view of the phrase.


How do you know what he was thinking?

 

But do you find the term to be racist (without mind reading)?

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rk9152:  Farrakhan was relevant enough for Dems to want their picture taken with him less than 40 years ago.

 

 

 

 Better be careful, Fox is a powerful drug that produces crazy side effects...........................like thinking who was in a picture 40 years ago with Farrakhan is relevant in a current discussion. *laughing*

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20 years ago - keep on giggling

 

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    So, the RW is whining about words.    Spencer attempted to re-define White Nationalist to Alt.Right.    Now some are saying that the verbage of  White Nationalists or White Supremists is inaccurate or non-existant, so should we just call them all Ethno Nationalists.   

 

    The point being, whatever verbage that some want to run away from, everyone comprehends exactly what the racists want - a distancing from their racists statements.    Gee, wasn't here that someone posted that the KKK wanted "xyz"...are they going to say that the KKK wasn't spouting ethno nationalist words.

 

    The House voted on a resolution:   the text states that the House “once again rejects White nationalism and White supremacy as hateful expressions of intolerance that are contradictory to the values that define the people of the United States.”

 

    Apparently the RW don't want to acknowledge words that all but one member of House of Representatives all understood and voted for.   hmmmmm

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@rk9152 wrote:

Just to clarify - "white supremacy" is not an appropriate term. "White nationalism" - same deal, although several Dems seem to have no problem being photographed with Louis Farrakhan.

 

But, he was also attacked for "Western Civilization". What is wrong with that?


In the past King has used the term "Western Civilization) to mean white supremacy and contributions of whites only.  The issue is not how you would define "Western Civilization", but King's warped view of the phrase.

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rk9152:  Farrakhan was relevant enough for Dems to want their picture taken with him less than 40 years ago.

 

 

 

 Better be careful, Fox is a powerful drug that produces crazy side effects...........................like thinking who was in a picture 40 years ago with Farrakhan is relevant in a current discussion. *laughing*

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