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rk and his dead cat verbiage. taxes are socialist. The common good is a marxist ideal. of course there is his big boogeyman hanging over all his posts, the all encompassing neo marxist hoax perpetrated by jordan peterson and all the other incels.

I have no idea what "dead cat verbiage" is but I can assure you that rk said none of that. And I would suggest you stick with the words of rk to discuss - Jordan Peterson is not posting under the name rk.

 

And "incels" - how does that fit????

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rk and his dead cat verbiage. taxes are socialist. The common good is a marxist ideal. of course there is his big boogeyman hanging over all his posts, the all encompassing neo marxist hoax perpetrated by jordan peterson and all the other incels.
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The current Conservative approach to Global Climate Change seems to be "look over there" as the polar ice caps melt, hurricanes and tornadoes decimate America, and the military is asking for billions of dollars to refit bases in response to climate change. 

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Us liberals consider not paying your bills or running up deficits to be financial malpractice.  How do you feel about it? 


"Us Liberals" have been doing it for decades. Seems strange to be concerned now.

 

And, as to the Green New Deal .......... I don't see that as a money saver.


You really need to take some history lessons. History shows clearly that the Republicans are responsible for 62% of the overall national debt ever incurred in America.


Why do I need history lessons?

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So addressing Global Warming is Socialist. 

So, no.

 

And now the radical right perverts the definition of Socialism even further.  I saw no mention of LBJ or a tax rate.

If you didn't see the "tax our way into prosperity" theory mentioned, you haven't been reading.

 

I mention LBJ because there has been a tendency to spread the "Reagan tax scam" back to the "JFK/LBJ tax scam" necessitated by the figures showing the leveling of income predates Reagan.

 


 

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Us liberals consider not paying your bills or running up deficits to be financial malpractice.  How do you feel about it? 


"Us Liberals" have been doing it for decades. Seems strange to be concerned now.

 

And, as to the Green New Deal .......... I don't see that as a money saver.


You really need to take some history lessons. History shows clearly that the Republicans are responsible for 62% of the overall national debt ever incurred in America.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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I remember driving through Nevada and seeing the billboards were lit by solar. In the wee hour of the morning they would dim out. But we (or the Chinese) have come a long way since then with better solar panels. Better batteries.

 

No question about it, technology has come a long way and advances every day. It will be a far better way of providing for our energy needs. It will happen as the technology advances - not via pols passing laws.



What laws?  The Green New Deal is a policy platform to start discussions on how to move from heavily subsidized greenhouse gas producing technologies to clean technologies like the rest of the world has. It is a roadmap for making America great again after 50 years of aristocratic rule. 


Is it your view that the Socialist have no intention of enacting any laws or regulation to deal with global warming?

 

As to your last comment - "aristocratic rule"??? Because LBJ dropped the tax rate as the costs of WWII were finally recognized to be over?


So addressing Global Warming is Socialist.  And now the radical right perverts the definition of Socialism even further.  I saw no mention of LBJ or a tax rate.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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Us liberals consider not paying your bills or running up deficits to be financial malpractice.  How do you feel about it? 


"Us Liberals" have been doing it for decades. Seems strange to be concerned now.

 

And, as to the Green New Deal .......... I don't see that as a money saver.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

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Republicans assume they can cry "Socialist" and it will stop the conversation.  They are finding that citizens just say "Yeah........So?".  It must be disheartening for them. 


Where did you get that idea? I think it is important to discuss the Marxist leanings of the Progressive Movement. Of course you like discussing the fallacy that you created. Or the reality you would rather hide away. On the other hand the reaction from the left is always hatred for the successful (and a claim on their property), or something about Reagan tax cuts, or Norway. And can you show sources supporting those erroneous claims of "the left" wanting to "claim other's property" Wealth redistribution via taxation. or their "hatred for the successful" ? Just look at their terms used to describe the successful. Can you show how hatred has anything to do with Reagan tax cuts or Norway? No - you missed the word "or".

 

I do find it disheartening to see people willing to abandon the traditions and operating principles of our nation's successful model for no other apparent reason than a desire to have "the other guy's stuff" - aka wealth redistribution. So then you should have been against the wealth redistribution that Reagan's "trickle down economics tax plan" started that redistributed wealth and income from the middle class and lower to the top 1%.


So I do not consider tax payers being allowed to keep a bit more of their earnings to be wealth redistribution.


 


Us liberals consider not paying your bills or running up deficits to be financial malpractice.  How do you feel about it? 

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Republicans assume they can cry "Socialist" and it will stop the conversation.  They are finding that citizens just say "Yeah........So?".  It must be disheartening for them. 


Where did you get that idea? I think it is important to discuss the Marxist leanings of the Progressive Movement. Of course you like discussing the fallacy that you created. Or the reality you would rather hide away. On the other hand the reaction from the left is always hatred for the successful (and a claim on their property), or something about Reagan tax cuts, or Norway. And can you show sources supporting those erroneous claims of "the left" wanting to "claim other's property" Wealth redistribution via taxation. or their "hatred for the successful" ? Just look at their terms used to describe the successful. Can you show how hatred has anything to do with Reagan tax cuts or Norway? No - you missed the word "or".

 

I do find it disheartening to see people willing to abandon the traditions and operating principles of our nation's successful model for no other apparent reason than a desire to have "the other guy's stuff" - aka wealth redistribution. So then you should have been against the wealth redistribution that Reagan's "trickle down economics tax plan" started that redistributed wealth and income from the middle class and lower to the top 1%.


So I do not consider tax payers being allowed to keep a bit more of their earnings to be wealth redistribution.


 

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