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NOT - he/she/it has not answered but merely posted some nonsense about a movie.


The truth hurts does it not, and once again the enablers prove the experts correct.


And here we are back at the basic question - what experts? Merely posting "enablers" does not further the discussion.


Yes we are back to the basic question. Why do the Dictator Trump enablers keep proving the experts correct every day, and the can never be a discussion with Trump enablers as that is beyond their reach. With that in mind you know the expression.


It appears that you have trapped yourself in your "experts" comment and are now playing the usual game to cover. I'll say "ta-ta" for now.


Nice  to see the enablers understand.That is progress.

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Calculated in constant 2018 dollars, the average wage for American workers has DROPPED from $22.90/hr in 1968 to $22.65/hr in 2018. That's not much of a drop, but when you consider that WITHIN those numbers are the 1% who had their income increase from $130.92/hr to $325.51/hr, intelligent people have to ask: why did the time for the already rich become so much MORE valuable than the time of the folks in the bottom 99%?

 

The answer is the GOPerLords told their dupes they were doing SOOO much better therefore the dupes didn't notice their wages were actually going DOWN while the hours their bosses demanded they put in on the job were going UP.

 

Only when those GOPerbasement dwellers actually think about the excuses they've been fed (automation and globalization) and how those mysterious forces ONLY effect the bottom 99% will they understand why their parents went much farther than their grandparents but THEY are nowhere near the lifestyle their parents could afford, and moving down.


It is no longer 1968. The economy has changed and technology has changed the types of jobs available.

 

A lack of understanding of the workplace is that "mysterious force" that you seem unable to grasp.

 

How should people be paid - based on their needs??

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Calculated in constant 2018 dollars, the average wage for American workers has DROPPED from $22.90/hr in 1968 to $22.65/hr in 2018. That's not much of a drop, but when you consider that WITHIN those numbers are the 1% who had their income increase from $130.92/hr to $325.51/hr, intelligent people have to ask: why did the time for the already rich become so much MORE valuable than the time of the folks in the bottom 99%?

 

The answer is the GOPerLords told their dupes they were doing SOOO much better therefore the dupes didn't notice their wages were actually going DOWN while the hours their bosses demanded they put in on the job were going UP.

 

Only when those GOPerbasement dwellers actually think about the excuses they've been fed (automation and globalization) and how those mysterious forces ONLY effect the bottom 99% will they understand why their parents went much farther than their grandparents but THEY are nowhere near the lifestyle their parents could afford, and moving down.

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@john258 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

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NOT - he/she/it has not answered but merely posted some nonsense about a movie.


The truth hurts does it not, and once again the enablers prove the experts correct.


And here we are back at the basic question - what experts? Merely posting "enablers" does not further the discussion.


Yes we are back to the basic question. Why do the Dictator Trump enablers keep proving the experts correct every day, and the can never be a discussion with Trump enablers as that is beyond their reach. With that in mind you know the expression.


It appears that you have trapped yourself in your "experts" comment and are now playing the usual game to cover. I'll say "ta-ta" for now.

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No cuts coming  -Social Securtiy is tied to COLA . Medicaid will be less because of the low unemployment. Medicare will stay the same because " Medicare for all" will die on the vine


A COLA formula being attached to Social Security cannot prevent cuts being made.

 

Many working people are on Medicaid.

 

And ......... Medicare can be cut if a national health care plan is not passed.


I say cuts will not be made to SS and Medicare. If you have proof otherwise, please show proof.


I say that Republicans want to make cuts in Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. I base my opinion on the attempts that the Republicans have made in the past and the statements that McConnell has recently made. The Blue Wave in the election (the largest seen since the Nixon days) may prevent them from getting traction in making cuts, thank goodness.


So "your opinion" is the proof that Republicans want to make cuts in Medicare & SS? That's exactly what I thought - YOUR OPINION!


I think you should read a little slower and closer - - - I said it was my "opinion". You didn't have to "think", I told it was my opinion. And that's all you have is an opinion. At least mine is based on McConnell's words and the words of many Republicans in Washington.  What do you have to base yours on?


You need to think for yourself and not follow the left wing lemmings. Medicare and SS is not changing unless you have proof of the change. Common sense says so, but that is something lacking with the left.


Again, I think you should read a little slower and closer.  I did say:    "The Blue Wave in the election (the largest seen since the Nixon days) may prevent them from getting traction in making cuts, thank goodness".

 

Speaking of "proof" ............. do you have "proof" that if Republicans had kept the majority in the House that cuts would not have been made? It looks like "common sense" may be lacking with the Right.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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NOT - he/she/it has not answered but merely posted some nonsense about a movie.


The truth hurts does it not, and once again the enablers prove the experts correct.


And here we are back at the basic question - what experts? Merely posting "enablers" does not further the discussion.


Yes we are back to the basic question. Why do the Dictator Trump enablers keep proving the experts correct every day, and the can never be a discussion with Trump enablers as that is beyond their reach. With that in mind you know the expression.

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@rk9152 wrote:


NOT - he/she/it has not answered but merely posted some nonsense about a movie.


The truth hurts does it not, and once again the enablers prove the experts correct.


And here we are back at the basic question - what experts? Merely posting "enablers" does not further the discussion.

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@john258 wrote:

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McConnell has stated its only possible to cut Social Security and Medicare with bipartisan support, so when the GOPers push a DEFICIT REDUCTION bill thru the Senate that the President is willing to sign, he thinks he'll be able to get enough Dems to go along to get the reductions made WITHOUT ENDANGERING ANY TAX CUTS FOR THE UBERRICH OR CORPORATIONS.

 

Anyone in the 99% who casts another vote for any Republican anywhere for anything is a fool or a masochist - probably both.


The 99% are benefiting by Trump in many ways: income tax cuts, more jobs available, lower gas prices, probably got a raise when the corporate tax cuts took place, probably also got a bonus from the good economy, and still the left complains about the "crumbs" they received.

 

You may think those that are benefiting are fools, but that's the difference between a smart fool and a dumb fool.


Hate to break the news to you but all the things except Tax Increase are from Obama. I bet you missed the classes on how an ecomoney works.


Time to wake up. Obama gave us more taxes and misery. The "ecomoney" doesn't work but the economy does when the right person is leading the way (hint - it wasn't Obama)!


Well the experts have told us the Trump enablers are mostly rural, low income, uneducated, easy to lead. white. I would say it is time for the enablers to wake up, and prove the experts wrong.


How does your biased and offensive view of Trump supporters effect the reality of those programs??


Not my view. The experts who study this came up with what makes this group up. Based on what I have seen of the group I agree with the experts.


Who is your "expert" - Jim Acosta? You need to find better experts and learn to think for yourself!


Already answered that question so go read it it. Now when it comes to thinking we all know per the experts that one trait of the far right enablers are they can not think for themselves, and are easy to lead. That is proven everyday by what they do and say. One thing they keep saying is that the far right loves SS, and Medicare and it will not change. They never did understand just a few months ago the leader of the Senate told us it would change next year and he was going to push that, plus Dictator Trump backed him up. Dictator Trump has been wrecking the health care system so cost will go up, and we will all have to pay more. Now the Reb. running in the last election lied and said they now support both programs, but it did not fool thinking people and they lost in the house, and that will prevent their changes. With the enablers  nothing will ever happen to change them untill they get some help like a lot did in the state of AZ.


NOT - he/she/it has not answered but merely posted some nonsense about a movie.


The truth hurts does it not, and once again the enablers prove the experts correct.

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@john258 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

McConnell has stated its only possible to cut Social Security and Medicare with bipartisan support, so when the GOPers push a DEFICIT REDUCTION bill thru the Senate that the President is willing to sign, he thinks he'll be able to get enough Dems to go along to get the reductions made WITHOUT ENDANGERING ANY TAX CUTS FOR THE UBERRICH OR CORPORATIONS.

 

Anyone in the 99% who casts another vote for any Republican anywhere for anything is a fool or a masochist - probably both.


The 99% are benefiting by Trump in many ways: income tax cuts, more jobs available, lower gas prices, probably got a raise when the corporate tax cuts took place, probably also got a bonus from the good economy, and still the left complains about the "crumbs" they received.

 

You may think those that are benefiting are fools, but that's the difference between a smart fool and a dumb fool.


Hate to break the news to you but all the things except Tax Increase are from Obama. I bet you missed the classes on how an ecomoney works.


Time to wake up. Obama gave us more taxes and misery. The "ecomoney" doesn't work but the economy does when the right person is leading the way (hint - it wasn't Obama)!


Well the experts have told us the Trump enablers are mostly rural, low income, uneducated, easy to lead. white. I would say it is time for the enablers to wake up, and prove the experts wrong.


How does your biased and offensive view of Trump supporters effect the reality of those programs??


Not my view. The experts who study this came up with what makes this group up. Based on what I have seen of the group I agree with the experts.


Who is your "expert" - Jim Acosta? You need to find better experts and learn to think for yourself!


Already answered that question so go read it it. Now when it comes to thinking we all know per the experts that one trait of the far right enablers are they can not think for themselves, and are easy to lead. That is proven everyday by what they do and say. One thing they keep saying is that the far right loves SS, and Medicare and it will not change. They never did understand just a few months ago the leader of the Senate told us it would change next year and he was going to push that, plus Dictator Trump backed him up. Dictator Trump has been wrecking the health care system so cost will go up, and we will all have to pay more. Now the Reb. running in the last election lied and said they now support both programs, but it did not fool thinking people and they lost in the house, and that will prevent their changes. With the enablers  nothing will ever happen to change them untill they get some help like a lot did in the state of AZ.


NOT - he/she/it has not answered but merely posted some nonsense about a movie.

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@john258 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@john258 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

McConnell has stated its only possible to cut Social Security and Medicare with bipartisan support, so when the GOPers push a DEFICIT REDUCTION bill thru the Senate that the President is willing to sign, he thinks he'll be able to get enough Dems to go along to get the reductions made WITHOUT ENDANGERING ANY TAX CUTS FOR THE UBERRICH OR CORPORATIONS.

 

Anyone in the 99% who casts another vote for any Republican anywhere for anything is a fool or a masochist - probably both.


The 99% are benefiting by Trump in many ways: income tax cuts, more jobs available, lower gas prices, probably got a raise when the corporate tax cuts took place, probably also got a bonus from the good economy, and still the left complains about the "crumbs" they received.

 

You may think those that are benefiting are fools, but that's the difference between a smart fool and a dumb fool.


Hate to break the news to you but all the things except Tax Increase are from Obama. I bet you missed the classes on how an ecomoney works.


Time to wake up. Obama gave us more taxes and misery. The "ecomoney" doesn't work but the economy does when the right person is leading the way (hint - it wasn't Obama)!


Well the experts have told us the Trump enablers are mostly rural, low income, uneducated, easy to lead. white. I would say it is time for the enablers to wake up, and prove the experts wrong.


How does your biased and offensive view of Trump supporters effect the reality of those programs??


Not my view. The experts who study this came up with what makes this group up. Based on what I have seen of the group I agree with the experts.


Who is your "expert" - Jim Acosta? You need to find better experts and learn to think for yourself!


Already answered that question so go read it it. Now when it comes to thinking we all know per the experts that one trait of the far right enablers are they can not think for themselves, and are easy to lead. That is proven everyday by what they do and say. One thing they keep saying is that the far right loves SS, and Medicare and it will not change. They never did understand just a few months ago the leader of the Senate told us it would change next year and he was going to push that, plus Dictator Trump backed him up. Dictator Trump has been wrecking the health care system so cost will go up, and we will all have to pay more. Now the Reb. running in the last election lied and said they now support both programs, but it did not fool thinking people and they lost in the house, and that will prevent their changes. With the enablers  nothing will ever happen to change them untill they get some help like a lot did in the state of AZ.

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