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Part of Olderscout66's rant...

Planes and semi's can operate on NG


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Yes, they can but under the Green New Deal fossil fuels will be outlawed.

Want to try again?

FYI...
Natural gas is a fossil fuel used as a source of energy for heating, cooking, and electricity generation. It is also used as a fuel for vehicles and as a chemical feedstock in the manufacture of plastics and other commercially important organic chemicals. Fossil fuel-based natural gas is a non-renewable resource.[3]
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@ManicProgressive wrote:

@KidBoy2 wrote:

Panjandrum posted..

Relax KidBoy and don't fall for Fox's hyperventillating misinformation, there won't be any bans on planes or cars.

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The link and many others are from NPR. MSNBC, etc. Please do not blame FOX for her stupid thinking.

10 years from now if she had her way we would not be able to use ANY fossil fuels. That would mean we would not have any airplanes! All vehicles would have to be electric...if you had a gas car it would not be of any use.

Get real!

Like I posted... That women is nuts....no airplanes .. junk your gas vehicles..give me a break!

OMG you sound like my dad when he freaked out over unleaded gas. I watched as he busted the catalytic converter off his pick up truck back in the 70s.

 

Things change. You survive. His last car was a Prius. 


Hard to tell if GOPers are terrified of change or just totally hypnotized by Fox and the rest of the Republican Propaganda machine.

 

Planes and semi's can operate on NG, electric cars are a reality, and the self-drive ones could go find a solar powered charging station while we enjoy dinner and a movie. There's "low-head" hydro power waiting to be tapped along all our rivers, school and Gov't building rooftops are just waiting to be covered with photoelectric panels and inner and inter-city trains can be built by all the folks who still need a job. Repeal the Reagan Taxscam that has redistributed income and wealth for the last 32 years and all that (and "free" college and Universal health care)  is paid for without taking a dime of "wealth" from the uberrich.

 

All we need to do is get rid of the Republicans who demand we kill our environment and destroy civilization so Big Carbon can wring the last dime of profit out of their vast store of fossil fuel still in the ground where it cannot do any damage.

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@Richva wrote:

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It does not set a date for ending the use of fossil fuels. But it is in spite of the uninformed on this board it is part of the Green New Deal.

 

The end of fossil fuels...just think of how that would devastate our countries economy.  


 

Face it AOC is out of her mind as are the people that think she is doing "the right thing" for our country. 

 

 


Right now, if you are a windmill technician in training, you start getting job offers in the first year of your training. How many coal miners have that?  Coal mining jobs have been dropping every year even with Trump trying to bring back coal fired microwave ovens but there is a huge demand for solar and wind technologies.  The idea that AOC is "out of her mind" is very similar to the comment made by the buggy industry when automobiles first appeared on the scene. Again, talking to Conservatives about technology and the economic benefits is like talking to the Beverly Hillbillies about indoor plumbing.  They just don't get it. 

 

 


Since I was not here when cars first hit the streets, I'll have to take your word for comments made at the time.
However, as to Conservatives and technology - we are realists, not dreamers. Certainly we look forward to the advances that technology will provide. On the other hand, the dreamers of the left seem to want to say, "That's a good idea. Let's make it happen by passing a law".
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@KidBoy2 wrote:

 

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It does not set a date for ending the use of fossil fuels. But it is in spite of the uninformed on this board it is part of the Green New Deal.

 

The end of fossil fuels...just think of how that would devastate our countries economy.  


 

Face it AOC is out of her mind as are the people that think she is doing "the right thing" for our country. 

 

 


Right now, if you are a windmill technician in training, you start getting job offers in the first year of your training. How many coal miners have that?  Coal mining jobs have been dropping every year even with Trump trying to bring back coal fired microwave ovens but there is a huge demand for solar and wind technologies.  The idea that AOC is "out of her mind" is very similar to the comment made by the buggy industry when automobiles first appeared on the scene. Again, talking to Conservatives about technology and the economic benefits is like talking to the Beverly Hillbillies about indoor plumbing.  They just don't get it. 

 

 

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Fox repeatedly shows AOC every day to inject fear of socialism into their viewers. 

But Fox doesn't repeatedly show white nationalist, Steve King from Iowa, every day. 

 

The typical Fox viewer isn't bright enough to figure out they're victims of propaganda.

 

As for AOC, the only people on the planet who cares what she thinks are Fox viewers.

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/feb/07/green-new-deal-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-plan

 

Part of the link..

 

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is releasing a broad outline of a vision for the Green New Deal, a plan to battle economic and racial injustice while also fighting climate change.

The new congresswoman’s blueprint, co-introduced by Massachusetts Senator Ed Markey, aims to develop a carbon-neutral economy in 10 years, which would require huge strides in reducing the US’s reliance on oil, gas and coal. It does not set a date for ending the use of fossil fuels.

Specifically, the resolution says it is the duty of the federal government to craft a Green New Deal “to achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions”. That includes getting all power from “clean, renewable and zero-emission energy sources”

The document also endorses universal healthcare, a jobs guarantee and free higher education – a huge shift in messaging from nearly a decade ago, when Democrats were advocating for a cap-and-trade system to limit greenhouse gases by allotting industry permits for pollution.

Sixty members of the House and nine senators are co-sponsoring the resolution, including several presidential candidates, according to a fact sheet from congressional aides that did not include a list of supporters. However, any legislation would be dead-on-arrival with Republicans in control of the Senate and the White House.

 

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It does not set a date for ending the use of fossil fuels. But it is in spite of the uninformed on this board it is part of the Green New Deal.

 

The end of fossil fuels...just think of how that would devastate our countries economy.  


 

Face it AOC is out of her mind as are the people that think she is doing "the right thing" for our country. 

 

 

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I daresay Ocasio-Cortez is a lot younger than most of us, so she and her generation have a lot more to lose. Kudos to her for reaching high and daring to achieve the 'impossible'.



Never say never. The day is coming for major changes in transportation, whether we live to see them or not.

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I posted...Yes, its time to junk all our airplanes and all things that use fossil fuels. That will help our economy...right?

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MsStretch posted..Silly me. I was thinking humanity over economy.

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humanity ...it is not! Get real if you can which I doubt. Taking away millions of jobs and ability to put food on the table is not helping humanity its hurting humanity.

It could be you were just being sarcastic..I hope so.

Get real yourself KidBoy2. Her plan would not "take away millions of jobs" Actually,  leading the world in developing and switching to renewable energy sources would create millions of new jobs. Maybe you were being "sarcastic" or simply and grossly mistaken?


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There is nothing irrational about about being very concerned about liberal brainwashing at American universities, of which,  Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a prominent example.  Ocasio-Cortez majored in international relations and economics at Boston University.

 


Obviously some people's brains need to be washed.


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@KidBoy2 wrote:
MsStretch posted..

I daresay Ocasio-Cortez is a lot younger than most of us, so she and her generation have a lot more to lose. Kudos to her for reaching high and daring to achieve the 'impossible'.



Never say never. The day is coming for major changes in transportation, whether we live to see them or not.

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Yes, its time to junk all our airplanes and all things that use fossil fuels. That will help our economy...right?

Her plan does not say to eliminate or "junk all our airplanes", no matter how many times you say it. Why do you continue to be disingenuous about this?


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I just saw on the news tonight, her story will be featured on Netflix. The Story is Titled Knocked down the House, I believe.

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