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It's a hoot to see those who support the KKK, White Supremacists, Nazi's and Alt-Right whine about those who cite/expose these miscreants.  Quite telling.


IMHO, racists are stirred up by others pointing out racist acts. Perhaps some others are too.

 


Years ago GOPers created Heritage Foundation to invent logical arguments to support Republican policy.

 

That failed as said policies lack logic, so they turned to finding ways to deflect exposure of their core values - Wealth and power defended by racism and ignorance.

 

This latest scam of claiming those who expose racism are somehow racist is one of the least intelligent but most repeated tactics they've come up with.

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@Centristsin2010 wrote:


It's a hoot to see those who support the KKK, White Supremacists, Nazi's and Alt-Right whine about those who cite/expose these miscreants.  Quite telling.


IMHO, racists are stirred up by others pointing out racist acts. Perhaps some others are too.

 


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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

I wonder WHO will post the next racism posting? I wonder WHO will post the next hate the cops posting?

 

YOU KNOW WHO!


I wonder why you want racist incidents to be kept hidden. 


I don't want them hidden but I don't see the need to stir up racism and hate like the left seem to do!  Some just act like little kids spreading gasoline on small sparks until there is a big fire. The left seem to want to retain the party of hate title.


The racist act itself "stirs up racism", not the person pointing it out and bringing attention to it.  Wrongs should be pointed out repeatedly until they are corrected. Ignoring them won't make them go away.


Except when a particular person "stirs up racism" by bringing it up daily, you know like beating a dead horse.  When you are so obsessed with racism and "bad cops" that every post you author is about that and anyone who doesn't agree 100% is called a racist. I guess when you are racist yourself, you are obsessed with racism.


Racism isn't a "horse" and it isn't "dead", sadly it's alive and in action today.  Anyone pointing out racist actions, even daily (which is very easy since it happens daily) isn't "stirring up racism", they are just pointing it out like anything wrong (including the bad actions of a minority of police persons) should be pointed out. There have been many topics posted by Centrist that weren't about racism or bad cops, sorry you missed them.

 

I haven't read a post where Centrist called anyone a racist, can you quote him please? Are you calling Centrist a racist?


I am NOT calling anyone a racist BUT anyone who keeps droning on about racism obviously has a fetish about racism. Same for cop haters. If you fit this category, you know who you are. Keep your hatred to yourself!


It's a hoot to see those who support the KKK, White Supremacists, Nazi's and Alt-Right whine about those who cite/expose these miscreants.  Quite telling.


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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ManicProgressive wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

I wonder WHO will post the next racism posting? I wonder WHO will post the next hate the cops posting?

 

YOU KNOW WHO!


I wonder why you want racist incidents to be kept hidden. 


I don't want them hidden but I don't see the need to stir up racism and hate like the left seem to do!  Some just act like little kids spreading gasoline on small sparks until there is a big fire. The left seem to want to retain the party of hate title.


The racist act itself "stirs up racism", not the person pointing it out and bringing attention to it.  Wrongs should be pointed out repeatedly until they are corrected. Ignoring them won't make them go away.


Except when a particular person "stirs up racism" by bringing it up daily, you know like beating a dead horse.  When you are so obsessed with racism and "bad cops" that every post you author is about that and anyone who doesn't agree 100% is called a racist. I guess when you are racist yourself, you are obsessed with racism.


Racism isn't a "horse" and it isn't "dead", sadly it's alive and in action today.  Anyone pointing out racist actions, even daily (which is very easy since it happens daily) isn't "stirring up racism", they are just pointing it out like anything wrong (including the bad actions of a minority of police persons) should be pointed out. There have been many topics posted by Centrist that weren't about racism or bad cops, sorry you missed them.

 

I haven't read a post where Centrist called anyone a racist, can you quote him please? Are you calling Centrist a racist?


I am NOT calling anyone a racist BUT anyone who keeps droning on about racism obviously has a fetish about racism. Same for cop haters. If you fit this category, you know who you are. Keep your hatred to yourself!


So what about "anyone" who "keeps droning on" when someone points out a racist act? Do they "obviously have a fetish about racism"? Should they "keep their hatred to themselves"?


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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ManicProgressive wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

I wonder WHO will post the next racism posting? I wonder WHO will post the next hate the cops posting?

 

YOU KNOW WHO!


I wonder why you want racist incidents to be kept hidden. 


I don't want them hidden but I don't see the need to stir up racism and hate like the left seem to do!  Some just act like little kids spreading gasoline on small sparks until there is a big fire. The left seem to want to retain the party of hate title.


The racist act itself "stirs up racism", not the person pointing it out and bringing attention to it.  Wrongs should be pointed out repeatedly until they are corrected. Ignoring them won't make them go away.


Except when a particular person "stirs up racism" by bringing it up daily, you know like beating a dead horse.  When you are so obsessed with racism and "bad cops" that every post you author is about that and anyone who doesn't agree 100% is called a racist. I guess when you are racist yourself, you are obsessed with racism.


Racism isn't a "horse" and it isn't "dead", sadly it's alive and in action today.  Anyone pointing out racist actions, even daily (which is very easy since it happens daily) isn't "stirring up racism", they are just pointing it out like anything wrong (including the bad actions of a minority of police persons) should be pointed out. There have been many topics posted by Centrist that weren't about racism or bad cops, sorry you missed them.

 

I haven't read a post where Centrist called anyone a racist, can you quote him please? Are you calling Centrist a racist?


I am NOT calling anyone a racist BUT anyone who keeps droning on about racism obviously has a fetish about racism. Same for cop haters. If you fit this category, you know who you are. Keep your hatred to yourself!


Hating bad behavior is bad. interesting.

 

What do you call it when people condone bad behavior? Love?

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ManicProgressive wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

I wonder WHO will post the next racism posting? I wonder WHO will post the next hate the cops posting?

 

YOU KNOW WHO!


I wonder why you want racist incidents to be kept hidden. 


I don't want them hidden but I don't see the need to stir up racism and hate like the left seem to do!  Some just act like little kids spreading gasoline on small sparks until there is a big fire. The left seem to want to retain the party of hate title.


The racist act itself "stirs up racism", not the person pointing it out and bringing attention to it.  Wrongs should be pointed out repeatedly until they are corrected. Ignoring them won't make them go away.


Except when a particular person "stirs up racism" by bringing it up daily, you know like beating a dead horse.  When you are so obsessed with racism and "bad cops" that every post you author is about that and anyone who doesn't agree 100% is called a racist. I guess when you are racist yourself, you are obsessed with racism.


Racism isn't a "horse" and it isn't "dead", sadly it's alive and in action today.  Anyone pointing out racist actions, even daily (which is very easy since it happens daily) isn't "stirring up racism", they are just pointing it out like anything wrong (including the bad actions of a minority of police persons) should be pointed out. There have been many topics posted by Centrist that weren't about racism or bad cops, sorry you missed them.

 

I haven't read a post where Centrist called anyone a racist, can you quote him please? Are you calling Centrist a racist?


I am NOT calling anyone a racist BUT anyone who keeps droning on about racism obviously has a fetish about racism. Same for cop haters. If you fit this category, you know who you are. Keep your hatred to yourself!

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ManicProgressive wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

I wonder WHO will post the next racism posting? I wonder WHO will post the next hate the cops posting?

 

YOU KNOW WHO!


I wonder why you want racist incidents to be kept hidden. 


I don't want them hidden but I don't see the need to stir up racism and hate like the left seem to do!  Some just act like little kids spreading gasoline on small sparks until there is a big fire. The left seem to want to retain the party of hate title.


The racist act itself "stirs up racism", not the person pointing it out and bringing attention to it.  Wrongs should be pointed out repeatedly until they are corrected. Ignoring them won't make them go away.


Except when a particular person "stirs up racism" by bringing it up daily, you know like beating a dead horse.  When you are so obsessed with racism and "bad cops" that every post you author is about that and anyone who doesn't agree 100% is called a racist. I guess when you are racist yourself, you are obsessed with racism.


Racism isn't a "horse" and it isn't "dead", sadly it's alive and in action today.  Anyone pointing out racist actions, even daily (which is very easy since it happens daily) isn't "stirring up racism", they are just pointing it out like anything wrong (including the bad actions of a minority of police persons) should be pointed out. There have been many topics posted by Centrist that weren't about racism or bad cops, sorry you missed them.

 

I haven't read a post where Centrist called anyone a racist, can you quote him please? Are you calling Centrist a racist?


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There are some who prefer to defend racists or minimize their actions and attack those who call out the ugly behavior; these people are complicit in the racism that prevails today.  It really isn't necessary at all.

 

Linda Brandts

 

POLITICS NEWS Poll: 64 percent of Americans say racism remains a major problem


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The polite way to call someone a racist

 

(CNN)In a classic Monty Python skit, an angry man walks into a pet shop carrying the stiffened corpse of a parrot nailed to its perch.

 
The man complains that the bird he purchased is dead, but the shop owner keeps insisting the parrot may be exhausted or prefers reclining on its back.
 
A surreal argument ensues as the shop owner keeps responding with a line that has now become synonymous with refusing to see the obvious:
 
"No, no, he's not dead, he's resting."
 
Could a similar refusal to name the obvious be at work in the way people talk about race virtually every day?
 
A new language of racial tiptoeing has emerged in recent years, and some say it may be edging close to the linguistic absurdity of the dead parrot skit. It's a racial doublespeak that sometimes evades more than explains.
 
It's a tendency to call out someone or something as racist but to avoid mentioning the actual words "racist" or "racism" while doing so.
 
This doublespeak seems to have spread everywhere.
 
People don't say racism put President Donald Trump in office; they use a term like "racial anxiety" or "racial resentment." If a white politician running for governor warns voters that they may "monkey this up" by electing his black opponent, that's not racist; that's "racially charged." White Americans who are uncomfortable with a changing culture or who believe they're left behind while minority groups get ahead aren't exhibiting racism; that's "racialized economics."
 
There's a buffet of racial euphemisms that awaits anyone shopping for a more polite word for racism. There's "racially freighted" for venomous anti-immigrant remarks. And white voters who resent demographic changes aren't motivated by racism; they're driven by "ethno-nationalism" or "white nativism."
 
Why are these racial euphemisms spreading?
 
Do we need them to avoid offending people and to give nuance to a complex topic? Or do they sometimes reinforce racism instead of calling it out?
 
That's the question I posed to people who fall on different sides of this trend. Some say we don't call out racism by name enough, while others say we do it too much.
 
This language may be new, but it reflects an old social taboo that discourages many Americans from talking directly about race, especially many white progressives, says Robin DiAngelo, author of "White Fragility."
 
The result is that many end up "talking in ridiculous circles" to avoid actually using the words
"racist" or "racism."
 
"You get this dynamic where nobody wants to come out and call it what it is," DiAngelo says. "White progressives are the worst. Our identity is very much rooted in being a nonracist. We really dance around it and avoid ever connecting ourselves to it."
 
The irony is that people who refuse to use plain language while calling out racism are inadvertently reinforcing it, DiAngelo says.
 
"You actually end up protecting it when you don't name it," she says. "That's one of its means of operation -- to remain unnamed and unmarked."
 
He's not a 'racist,' he's a 'racialist'

 

I first became aware of this racial doublespeak when I heard someone describe another person not as a racist but as a "racialist."
 
I'd never heard the word before. I looked it up and it is an actual word in the Merriam-Webster dictionary. It's a person who believes that "race determines human traits and capacities." That was my first of many forays into the world of racial doublespeak.
 
Now, using euphemisms is not inherently wrong; sometimes it's the right thing to do. People might say someone "passed away" instead of "died" to soften the pain when talking to relatives.
 
But there's something about race that brings out the need to reach for the euphemisms. Consider
anti-Semitism as a comparison.
 
How many different words are there to describe anti-Semitism? Whether someone paints a swastika on a synagogue wall or a nation murders millions of Jews, people normally describe these events as driven by anti-Semitism. People see anti-Semitism in events big and small -- it all springs from the same poisonous well.
 
Why isn't racism perceived the same way? Why so many different terms for a sentiment that springs from the same place?
 
Perhaps it's because people are still negotiating what racism means.
 
Using "racism" is the verbal equivalent of the nuclear option, says George Lakoff, author of "Don't Think of an Elephant!" a book that explains how language frames political debates.
 
Lakoff says it's appropriate to use phrases like "racial resentment" because "racism has many manifestations." But using a blunt word like "racism" or "racist" can inflame rather than explain.
 
"They're fighting words," he says. "If you're going to get away from these fighting words and say that there's a particular aspect of race involved here, you don't want to say racist."
 
She won't play the racist guessing game
 
But some scholars who study language and race say there's another reason to avoid using those
words:
 
Most people use them in the wrong way.
 
They think racism is about bad people who are intentionally mean to people of other races. That's all.
 
But some who study racism say it's more like an iceberg -- 90% of it is submerged.
 
They say it's not just about white hoods and racial slurs. Racism is a system of advantage that's based on race. It does most of its damage below the waterline: a criminal justice system that disproportionately targets people of color; students of color who are punished at a higher rate than their white peers; mortgage lenders that discriminate against Latino and black borrowers; job-seekers with "white-sounding" names who get more callbacks than those with "black-sounding" names.
 
The iceberg metaphor is what Jennifer Roth-Gordon invokes when talking about racism. She's a linguistic and cultural anthropologist at the University of Arizona who teaches students about race. She tries to avoid using terms like "racist" or "racism."
 
She says they shift the conversation back to people obsessing over individual behavior -- whether some person said or did something racist.
 
"When people are protesting racism with signs about love, they're playing into the game of people who want to define racism as hate," she says. "It sets this incredibly high bar for what it means to be racist: It has to be intentional. That's the top of the iceberg."

 

When people are protesting racism with signs about love, they're playing into the game of people who want to define racism as hate. It sets this incredibly high bar for what it means to be racist: It has to be intentional.

 

Jennifer Roth-Gordon, a linguistic anthropologist at the University of Arizona

 
Roth-Gordon prefers using more nuanced terms, like "racial anxiety" or "racial bias." It makes people less defensive and broadens the meaning of racism.
 
It also avoids what she calls the racist "guessing game," says Roth-Gordon, who explores racism and language in her book, "Race and the Brazilian Body: Blackness, Whiteness, and Everyday Language in Rio de Janeiro."
 
That's the game where the public obsesses over some individual getting caught committing some crude racial offense. Focus on that type of racism and you don't have to talk about the racism below the surface that many whites benefit from, she says.
 
"It's safe for white people to play this racist guessing game," she says. "They like the idea that
there is some kind of meter or test and some kind of measure that once they start pulling up some of these other examples, they can safely say, 'I would never do that.'"
 

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@ManicProgressive wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

I wonder WHO will post the next racism posting? I wonder WHO will post the next hate the cops posting?

 

YOU KNOW WHO!


I wonder why you want racist incidents to be kept hidden. 


I don't want them hidden but I don't see the need to stir up racism and hate like the left seem to do!  Some just act like little kids spreading gasoline on small sparks until there is a big fire. The left seem to want to retain the party of hate title.


The racist act itself "stirs up racism", not the person pointing it out and bringing attention to it.  Wrongs should be pointed out repeatedly until they are corrected. Ignoring them won't make them go away.


Except when a particular person "stirs up racism" by bringing it up daily, you know like beating a dead horse.  When you are so obsessed with racism and "bad cops" that every post you author is about that and anyone who doesn't agree 100% is called a racist. I guess when you are racist yourself, you are obsessed with racism.

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