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Of course it's mission accomplished for Vladimir as the Devon Nunes puppets in the House are working for both Vladimir and Comrade Trump.


It is obvious as to the contribution made by the "Oh how I hate Trump" mob to the Russian efforts to weaken us through division.

 

What has Nunes done?


Well starting with his Midnight Ride - Refusing to Subpoena documents from Don Jr - Hope Hicks - Lewandowski and a slew of others and demanding all witnesses testify under oath and then shutting down the House Intelligence Committee Investigation before it was even 1/2 done .............

 

Other than all that - Absulutely Nothing of any Value to America and certainly not anything pertaining to the oath of Office he swore 


I don't see anything in there about "Vladimir" nor "Comrade Trump" - ct's strange comments.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@CriticalThinking wrote:

Of course it's mission accomplished for Vladimir as the Devon Nunes puppets in the House are working for both Vladimir and Comrade Trump.


It is obvious as to the contribution made by the "Oh how I hate Trump" mob to the Russian efforts to weaken us through division.

 

What has Nunes done?


Well starting with his Midnight Ride - Refusing to Subpoena documents from Don Jr - Hope Hicks - Lewandowski and a slew of others and demanding all witnesses testify under oath and then shutting down the House Intelligence Committee Investigation before it was even 1/2 done .............

 

Other than all that - Absulutely Nothing of any Value to America and certainly not anything pertaining to the oath of Office he swore

 

 

( " China if You're Listening - Get Trumps Tax Returns " )

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" - Anonymous

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

Of course it's mission accomplished for Vladimir as the Devon Nunes puppets in the House are working for both Vladimir and Comrade Trump.


It is obvious as to the contribution made by the "Oh how I hate Trump" mob to the Russian efforts to weaken us through division.

 

What has Nunes done?

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Of course it's mission accomplished for Vladimir as the Devon Nunes puppets in the House are working for both Vladimir and Comrade Trump.

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Okay rk, lets discuss the Iraq debacle. Here's what we know happened, you come up with something that actually worked in our favor:

 

jrbush lied us into the Iraq war so his buddies could grab the oil and he could try out regime change as a foreign policy, just like all his advisers told him to.

 

Saddam was not only no threat to us, he was the counter-weight to Iran in the region.

 

There were NO WMD and no sign that Saddam intended to acquire any.

 

There WERE over 5,000 dead, 50,000 maimed and around 2,000,000 brave Americans with PTSD as a result of the worthless war that is never ending.

 

There is $6TRILLION LESS to rebuild America's crumbling infrastructure because it was wizzed down the rathole to conduct jr's worthless war.

 

There is $12 BILLION in cash jr sent to Baghdad but nobody kept track of and there is strong evidence at least $6 BILLION wound up in ISIS pay envelopes.


O.K. let's. The first theory is about the lying. The Dems approved the attacks - are you really using the "they are stupid" defense?

 

Now, once we were there, as I previously posted the government was taken down, Saddam got hung - so far so good. But then the liberal side of the Republican establishment kicked in and "nation building" began and it was a fiasco. You cannot force western democracy on a society not ready for it. So, Bush screwed up, Obama didn't help much.

 

As to the crumbling infrastructure - that is a separate subject but if you want to get into it, let's. Remember the near trillion dollar pile of money Obama had. Remember him joking that those "shovel ready" jobs weren't all that "shovel ready"? So, let's not mix that into Iraq.


Well we have an answer so lets analyze what is in the answer so all can see for them selves how       the enablers use what their leaders tell them.

This enabler (or is it ignobeler?) has been saying the same thing for quite some time. Can you point to a so-called "leader" who has said the same thing? If not, you comment above is valueless.

1. It is a proven fact that we were lied to about the Iraq war. Iraq did not have WMD. Now we know that from Colin Powell Chief of Staff who has covered it with us for some years now. The neo con wing of the Bush Admin new it when they pushed for Congress to authorize Bush to take action if it were true. The action taken by Congress did not approve the attack but allowed the President to attack if it was true Iraq had WMD. The neo cons even lied to Colin Powell.

Once again the "stupid" defense.

2. Once again as Colin Powell along with other experts have told us if you invade a Country and win you own the Country, and have to rebuild it. The rebuilding was part of the plan once again per Colin Powell. I was in Beijing China when we launched the attack. Watching CC TV 9 on China TV they had a program on it which was very good. They said US would take down the country quickly, but the problem would be the rebuilding. They said in all likelihood we would have problems due to the internal problems in Iraq. They were correct, and we learned that the Colin Powell wing felt the same way. Obama had nothing to do with it but for the far right they have to try and deflect as usual.

"Rebuilding" does not translate into "reshape into your own image and likeness". No one has blamed Obama for Iraq - just another made up thing for you to attack.

3. The Bush 2 recession was caused in part by the Iraq war which was not funded. When the country enters  a recession the Fed. govt has to spend money to keep us out of a depression. That started under Bush. It was lead by his Sec. of Treasury, and the plan was drawn up by the Fed. Bank of NY chairman. There was  money in the first program proposed by Bush. The Reb. in Congress were against that plan, and it passed due to the Dems. joining thinking Reb. voting for it. Projects were started right away.

When Obama took over the Fed. Bank of NY chairman became Sec. of Treasury for Obama and the plan continued. The problem was greater and the plan was redone. All of the American Auto Cos. were going under so they were bailed out (It was all paid back), and other projects added. The plan worked and you see that today as we are now living in the economy it created. Some of the projects took some years to complete. One road project near me was finished about 2 years ago. One last thought this was part of Iraq war.

Surely you are not looking for someone to defend the expenditure. And - the bailout of the UAW is hardly related to Iraq.

 

So all can see again how the enablers have no understanding of what goes on in this country, just what their leaders tell them and they blindly repeat it.

So, as always the above was many words with little, if any, relationship to the topic or the post it was theoretically in response to. But, it did get the key elements of it's poster in "enablers" and "leaders"


 

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

Okay rk, lets discuss the Iraq debacle. Here's what we know happened, you come up with something that actually worked in our favor:

 

jrbush lied us into the Iraq war so his buddies could grab the oil and he could try out regime change as a foreign policy, just like all his advisers told him to.

 

Saddam was not only no threat to us, he was the counter-weight to Iran in the region.

 

There were NO WMD and no sign that Saddam intended to acquire any.

 

There WERE over 5,000 dead, 50,000 maimed and around 2,000,000 brave Americans with PTSD as a result of the worthless war that is never ending.

 

There is $6TRILLION LESS to rebuild America's crumbling infrastructure because it was wizzed down the rathole to conduct jr's worthless war.

 

There is $12 BILLION in cash jr sent to Baghdad but nobody kept track of and there is strong evidence at least $6 BILLION wound up in ISIS pay envelopes.


O.K. let's. The first theory is about the lying. The Dems approved the attacks - are you really using the "they are stupid" defense?

 

Now, once we were there, as I previously posted the government was taken down, Saddam got hung - so far so good. But then the liberal side of the Republican establishment kicked in and "nation building" began and it was a fiasco. You cannot force western democracy on a society not ready for it. So, Bush screwed up, Obama didn't help much.

 

As to the crumbling infrastructure - that is a separate subject but if you want to get into it, let's. Remember the near trillion dollar pile of money Obama had. Remember him joking that those "shovel ready" jobs weren't all that "shovel ready"? So, let's not mix that into Iraq.


Well we have an answer so lets analyze what is in the answer so all can see for them selves how       the enablers use what their leaders tell them.

1. It is a proven fact that we were lied to about the Iraq war. Iraq did not have WMD. Now we know that from Colin Powell Chief of Staff who has covered it with us for some years now. The neo con wing of the Bush Admin new it when they pushed for Congress to authorize Bush to take action if it were true. The action taken by Congress did not approve the attack but allowed the President to attack if it was true Iraq had WMD. The neo cons even lied to Colin Powell.

2. Once again as Colin Powell along with other experts have told us if you invade a Country and win you own the Country, and have to rebuild it. The rebuilding was part of the plan once again per Colin Powell. I was in Beijing China when we launched the attack. Watching CC TV 9 on China TV they had a program on it which was very good. They said US would take down the country quickly, but the problem would be the rebuilding. They said in all likelihood we would have problems due to the internal problems in Iraq. They were correct, and we learned that the Colin Powell wing felt the same way. Obama had nothing to do with it but for the far right they have to try and deflect as usual.

3. The Bush 2 recession was caused in part by the Iraq war which was not funded. When the country enters  a recession the Fed. govt has to spend money to keep us out of a depression. That started under Bush. It was lead by his Sec. of Treasury, and the plan was drawn up by the Fed. Bank of NY chairman. There was  money in the first program proposed by Bush. The Reb. in Congress were against that plan, and it passed due to the Dems. joining thinking Reb. voting for it. Projects were started right away.

When Obama took over the Fed. Bank of NY chairman became Sec. of Treasury for Obama and the plan continued. The problem was greater and the plan was redone. All of the American Auto Cos. were going under so they were bailed out (It was all paid back), and other projects added. The plan worked and you see that today as we are now living in the economy it created. Some of the projects took some years to complete. One road project near me was finished about 2 years ago. One last thought this was part of Iraq war.

 

So all can see again how the enablers have no understanding of what goes on in this country, just what their leaders tell them and they blindly repeat it.

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Okay rk, lets discuss the Iraq debacle. Here's what we know happened, you come up with something that actually worked in our favor:

 

jrbush lied us into the Iraq war so his buddies could grab the oil and he could try out regime change as a foreign policy, just like all his advisers told him to.

 

Saddam was not only no threat to us, he was the counter-weight to Iran in the region.

 

There were NO WMD and no sign that Saddam intended to acquire any.

 

There WERE over 5,000 dead, 50,000 maimed and around 2,000,000 brave Americans with PTSD as a result of the worthless war that is never ending.

 

There is $6TRILLION LESS to rebuild America's crumbling infrastructure because it was wizzed down the rathole to conduct jr's worthless war.

 

There is $12 BILLION in cash jr sent to Baghdad but nobody kept track of and there is strong evidence at least $6 BILLION wound up in ISIS pay envelopes.


O.K. let's. The first theory is about the lying. The Dems approved the attacks - are you really using the "they are stupid" defense?

 

Now, once we were there, as I previously posted the government was taken down, Saddam got hung - so far so good. But then the liberal side of the Republican establishment kicked in and "nation building" began and it was a fiasco. You cannot force western democracy on a society not ready for it. So, Bush screwed up, Obama didn't help much.

 

As to the crumbling infrastructure - that is a separate subject but if you want to get into it, let's. Remember the near trillion dollar pile of money Obama had. Remember him joking that those "shovel ready" jobs weren't all that "shovel ready"? So, let's not mix that into Iraq.

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Okay rk, lets discuss the Iraq debacle. Here's what we know happened, you come up with something that actually worked in our favor:

 

jrbush lied us into the Iraq war so his buddies could grab the oil and he could try out regime change as a foreign policy, just like all his advisers told him to.

 

Saddam was not only no threat to us, he was the counter-weight to Iran in the region.

 

There were NO WMD and no sign that Saddam intended to acquire any.

 

There WERE over 5,000 dead, 50,000 maimed and around 2,000,000 brave Americans with PTSD as a result of the worthless war that is never ending.

 

There is $6TRILLION LESS to rebuild America's crumbling infrastructure because it was wizzed down the rathole to conduct jr's worthless war.

 

There is $12 BILLION in cash jr sent to Baghdad but nobody kept track of and there is strong evidence at least $6 BILLION wound up in ISIS pay envelopes.

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