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President Obama sounds call to continue John Lewis's fight

If you didn't catch President Obama's eulogy for John Lewis, it's on YouTube - google it up and watch a great man give a great speech.

 

IMHO one of the most urgent messages President Obama sent us in that speech was that tRump and his minion DeJoys are working to destroy the United States Postal Service because with no  USPS there's no absentee voting.

 

While DeJoy may not complete the destruction by the election, he doesn't need to in order for the Toad to steal another election. All DeJoy needs is to cripple the post offices serving heavily DEMOCRATIC areas, and thanks to decades of Republican Gerrymandering, THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

 

My only suggestion is to plan to vote as early as possible and, where possible, DRIVE TO A REPUBLICAN DISTRICT TO MAIL YOUR VOTE.

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@Olderscout66 

Here in metro Atlanta, we have Ballot Drop Boxes.  The Election Board approved them at the beginning of this election cycle.   They are monitored and are conveniently located.

The AJC Describes Them 

 

Georgia voters can return their absentee ballots in drop boxes this primary election, a new way to deliver ballots that avoids depending on the U.S. Postal Service.

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GailL 1:  Georgia voters can return their absentee ballots in drop boxes this primary election, a new way to deliver ballots that avoids depending on the U.S. Postal Service.

 

 

 

Lucky you aren't in Pennsylvania.

 

 

Trump campaign sues Pennsylvania election officials over ballot drop boxes Lawsuit claims practice is unconstitutional, threatens fairness

https://www.phillyvoice.com/president-donald-trump-reelection-campaign-lawsuit-pennsylvania-mail-in-...

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@Panjandrum wrote:

 

 

GailL 1:  Georgia voters can return their absentee ballots in drop boxes this primary election, a new way to deliver ballots that avoids depending on the U.S. Postal Service.

 

 

 

Lucky you aren't in Pennsylvania.

 

 

Trump campaign sues Pennsylvania election officials over ballot drop boxes Lawsuit claims practice is unconstitutional, threatens fairness

https://www.phillyvoice.com/president-donald-trump-reelection-campaign-lawsuit-pennsylvania-mail-in-...


I just skimmed the article but the differences stood out -

 

Ours are placed on government or election official grounds only. They are secured; there are at least (3) video cameras focused on the boxes, time monitored so that no one can "ballot stuff" without being identified.  The ones that I know about do not have drive up access - but the close by drive/parking areas also have cameras that record license plates.

 

The videos are downloaded daily, reviewed and filed with that days ballots.

 

A lot of thought went into where there boxes were placed to make them safe and secure.

I think that is the difference -

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@GailL1 wrote:

@Panjandrum wrote:

 

 

GailL 1:  Georgia voters can return their absentee ballots in drop boxes this primary election, a new way to deliver ballots that avoids depending on the U.S. Postal Service.

 

 

 

Lucky you aren't in Pennsylvania.

 

 

Trump campaign sues Pennsylvania election officials over ballot drop boxes Lawsuit claims practice is unconstitutional, threatens fairness

https://www.phillyvoice.com/president-donald-trump-reelection-campaign-lawsuit-pennsylvania-mail-in-...


I just skimmed the article but the differences stood out -

 

Ours are placed on government or election official grounds only. They are secured; there are at least (3) video cameras focused on the boxes, time monitored so that no one can "ballot stuff" without being identified.  The ones that I know about do not have drive up access - but the close by drive/parking areas also have cameras that record license plates.

 

The videos are downloaded daily, reviewed and filed with that days ballots.

 

A lot of thought went into where there boxes were placed to make them safe and secure.

I think that is the difference -


Ga. used a mail in vote system that worked in the primary election where GA had a large turnout in the vote. Now why did not GA want to use that system in the Nov. election. Could it have been stopped by the far right Reb. because they know a large voter turnout will have them  loose. Did not most people vote using the mail so why the big thing on drop boxes. Is this the cover for ending what proved to be a success. Some in GA think so, but not the far right Reb. and that says it all.

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@john258 wrote:

Ga. used a mail in vote system that worked in the primary election where GA had a large turnout in the vote. Now why did not GA want to use that system in the Nov. election. Could it have been stopped by the far right Reb. because they know a large voter turnout will have them  loose. Did not most people vote using the mail so why the big thing on drop boxes. Is this the cover for ending what proved to be a success. Some in GA think so, but not the far right Reb. and that says it all.

AJC 07/01/2020 - Georgia election board extends rules for absentee voting 

from the link ~

The State Election Board on Wednesday extended two temporary rules that will make it easier to process large numbers of absentee ballots for November’s general electionThe first rule will allow local election officials to continue to provide drop boxes for absentee ballots — instead of requiring voters to mail the ballots or deliver them to election offices by hand. The second will allow election officials to process — but not tally — those ballots before election day.

 

The board adopted both rules on a temporary basis leading up to the June 9 primary election. Wednesday’s vote extended the emergency measures for an additional six months, and the board is expected to make them permanent before November.

 

The big thing is not just the drop boxes, a lot of states have them - see @Panjandrum  post on PA. but how secure the drop boxes are and will continue to be going forward.

 

It was our SOS that supported the expansion of the absentee or mail-in ballot and yes, I do think it will continue to play a big roll in our voting procedure.  So now we not only have this in place but we also have a large number of days for early voting, + a few weekends - Saturday and Sunday.  An easy way for people to check their voting registration and up to date voting precinct.  We have also added really big (in size) voting places for those in highly populated areas.  We have done more training of poll workers on how to set up the machines and problem solve some issues - like too many plugged into one outlet.  🙄  We have a check list for each of the different polling places to run through the day or two before so that everything is available and they have to report (certify) to their respective election board.

 

Now getting the poll workers to show up and show up at the appropriate time to open the place is something that is gonna require some oversite.

 

We are trying to cover the problems that were brought during the investigation of the primary election. 

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@GailL1 wrote:

@john258 wrote:

Ga. used a mail in vote system that worked in the primary election where GA had a large turnout in the vote. Now why did not GA want to use that system in the Nov. election. Could it have been stopped by the far right Reb. because they know a large voter turnout will have them  loose. Did not most people vote using the mail so why the big thing on drop boxes. Is this the cover for ending what proved to be a success. Some in GA think so, but not the far right Reb. and that says it all.

AJC 07/01/2020 - Georgia election board extends rules for absentee voting 

from the link ~

The State Election Board on Wednesday extended two temporary rules that will make it easier to process large numbers of absentee ballots for November’s general electionThe first rule will allow local election officials to continue to provide drop boxes for absentee ballots — instead of requiring voters to mail the ballots or deliver them to election offices by hand. The second will allow election officials to process — but not tally — those ballots before election day.

 

The board adopted both rules on a temporary basis leading up to the June 9 primary election. Wednesday’s vote extended the emergency measures for an additional six months, and the board is expected to make them permanent before November.

 

The big thing is not just the drop boxes, a lot of states have them - see @Panjandrum  post on PA. but how secure the drop boxes are and will continue to be going forward.

 

It was our SOS that supported the expansion of the absentee or mail-in ballot and yes, I do think it will continue to play a big roll in our voting procedure.  So now we not only have this in place but we also have a large number of days for early voting, + a few weekends - Saturday and Sunday.  An easy way for people to check their voting registration and up to date voting precinct.  We have also added really big (in size) voting places for those in highly populated areas.  We have done more training of poll workers on how to set up the machines and problem solve some issues - like too many plugged into one outlet.  🙄  We have a check list for each of the different polling places to run through the day or two before so that everything is available and they have to report (certify) to their respective election board.

 

Now getting the poll workers to show up and show up at the appropriate time to open the place is something that is gonna require some oversite.

 

We are trying to cover the problems that were brought during the investigation of the primary election. 


Yes drop boxes will help, and so will early counting.

Why did they drop mailing ballots to all as that is what gave the program the great return. They used mailing cost as the excuse, but the real reason was to cut the number vetoing, and S A plus others trying to end the far right efforts to reduce have told us. GA will only end being the leader in holding down the vote by having all the right wing Trump Rep. defeated. Lets hope that happens in Nov.

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John Lewis...voting, voting, voting rights!

trump...don’t vote, it’s corrupt. 

Who has the best message?

Lewis probably wouldn’t have cared less whether trump showed up at the ceremony...he saw trump for who trump really is...for a very long time!

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williamb:   Lewis probably wouldn’t have cared less whether trump showed up at the ceremony...he saw trump for who trump really is...for a very long time!

 

 

 

 

It's a good thing Trump was a no-show at the funeral, he would have been about as welcome as a case of head lice.

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thats good news Gail because Trump is desperately trying to slow down the US mail system suddenly for SOME reason, OOOPS!!!! And Georgia being run by the Trump Party is HEAVILY engaged in voting suppression as well for another reason....
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About those "convenient" drop boxes Georgia set up for the PRIMARY election.... is it POSSIBLE the GOPers (who have been disenfranchising their citizens for 140 years) only approved them for the PRIMARY election, and will simply neglect to collect whatever anyone puts in for the GENERAL election???

 

Would a Republican stoop that low to rig an election?

I answer with another question:

Do Republicans support a pathological moron ToadPOTUS?

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@Olderscout66 

@Tom5678 

 

AJC 07/01/2020 - Georgia election board extends rules for absentee voting 

 

The State Election Board on Wednesday extended two temporary rules that will make it easier to process large numbers of absentee ballots for November’s general electionThe first rule will allow local election officials to continue to provide drop boxes for absentee ballots — instead of requiring voters to mail the ballots or deliver them to election offices by hand. The second will allow election officials to process — but not tally — those ballots before election day.

 

The board adopted both rules on a temporary basis leading up to the June 9 primary election. Wednesday’s vote extended the emergency measures for an additional six months, and the board is expected to make them permanent before November.

 

The move is a sign that absentee ballots are likely to play a substantial role in Georgia elections moving forward — at least during the pandemic.

 

The state has long allowed voters to cast an absentee ballot for any reason. But it stepped up efforts to encourage absentee voting amid the pandemic, and voters responded. More than half of voters who participated in the primary, over 1.1 million, submitted absentee ballots.

 

read more at the AJC link ~

 

 

 
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@ Gail1

Good that the GOPerGov of Georgia appears to be moving in the right direction to increase voting.

 

Not so good that there's seems to be no laws regulating who and how those "drop boxes" are operated. Ben Franklin noticed this problem 240+ years ago, and established the policies that began the unwavering tradition of the sanctity of the US Mail, and the spirit of those policies continues in the USPS today. Not so much for drop boxes.

 

That "second provision" is more than a little troubling. You write that it allows "election officials to process — but not tally — those ballots before election day.

 

The board adopted both rules on a temporary basis leading up to the June 9 primary election. Wednesday’s vote extended the emergency measures for an additional six months, and the board is expected to make them permanent before November.

 

While election boards are made up of people for both parties, it is the MAJORITY party that controls the boards. And if they EXPECT to make them permanent before November WHY DIDN'T THEY DO IT NOW?

 

Sorry, GA might be doing the right thing, but given the Republican's 50 year effort to disenfranchise voters, and their unending attack since 2007 to destroy the USPS, I for one have ZERO confidence of them treating those drop boxes and the ballots they contain in a non-partisan manner.

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answer: YES AND YES!!!!
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@Olderscout66 wrote:

If you didn't catch President Obama's eulogy for John Lewis, it's on YouTube - google it up and watch a great man give a great speech.

 

IMHO one of the most urgent messages President Obama sent us in that speech was that tRump and his minion DeJoys are working to destroy the United States Postal Service because with no  USPS there's no absentee voting.

 

While DeJoy may not complete the destruction by the election, he doesn't need to in order for the Toad to steal another election. All DeJoy needs is to cripple the post offices serving heavily DEMOCRATIC areas, and thanks to decades of Republican Gerrymandering, THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

 

My only suggestion is to plan to vote as early as possible and, where possible, DRIVE TO A REPUBLICAN DISTRICT TO MAIL YOUR VOTE. 

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Truly, @Olderscout66, your last statement is the best suggestion yet to circumvent Trump's efforts to defraud and rig our elections.

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Clearly, a class act.....

 


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in DC, 1/27/2017
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What is the reason to go to a Republican district to mail your vote?

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mmimi000 asked: What is the reason to go to a Republican district to mail your vote?

 

Glad you asked. Because the postal service in those districts will NOT have been ravaged by DeJoy and SHOULD be in much better shape to get your vote to the election center in time to be counted, along with the predominantly GOPer votes from that district. Remember, not ALL tRump appointees are as dumb as he is, and DeJoy's mission is to suppress DEMOCRATIC votes by dismantling the USPS, so first he'll target post offices that serve DEMOCRATIC districts. After the election, he'll go after the rest.

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