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The list inaccurately paints a negative picture of the police.

Not if one actually looks at the data base instead of just a total number. That's why links are provided to look at the information in data base.  I know that must be confusing for conservatives and so-called independents.


Why put up a misleading headline and require digging down into the data and making your own lists to determine the truth?

 

Chas, it's quite telling that facts are "misleading" to those in trumps, alternative reality.  Some just prefer whining over the truth....

 

It is obviously intended to distort the facts.....


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@ChasKy53 wrote:

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To those here who disgustingly and erroneously call others here "police hater": 

 

Have you looked at the data in this data base? Have you looked at the methodology used in compiling this data base? There is a link to the methodology used and separate links to each year back to and including 2015. It is quite complete, much more complete than the police data base that contains just over half of actual fatalities. The data base is quite complete, listing complete circumstances of each incident, the race sex and age of each victim, whether or not they were armed (many were completely unarmed), what they were armed with, etc. etc.  It is an excellent source to educate one's self about the proper and improper actions taken by police across our nation.

 

Do those who call others here police haters also call those who create and update this data base "police haters"? If so ........ why?

 

The "police hater" comment is baiting, slandering, hateful, attacking, totally unjustified and in my opinion only one obsessed with hate would use such a term.


The list is used to convey an erroneous impression of police officers. No, the "list" does not.  The "list" shows each incident and all of it's circumstances for anyone with intelligence to read and discern if any killing was necessary or not. The vast majority are. If you interpret the data base to "convey an erroneous impression", it's in your own mind. If there are unjustified shootings - by all means expose them. Many of those shot and killed were unarmed, yes the data base exposes that, but the data base is not "used to convey an erroneous impression of the police". But to lump them all together only offers the opportunity to those who desire to do so (for whatever reason) to show police in a bad light. Sorry you "lump them all together" instead of differentiating by the detailed information provided.   You see .......... You are the one "lumping them all together", not the data base nor the person who posted this data base here.


 


We'll have to agree to disagee. When individual cases are brought up - that has real meaning as to real happenings. Of course...... there are over 900 "rael happenings", not jsut those you want to cherry-pick. My point exactly - you want to use the large number to convey an inaccurate impression. The list inaccurately paints a negative picture of the police.  No, it doesn't.  You choose to see it as you choose to do. If very, very few are inappropriate and the headline says "over 899" - that is dishonest..


 


 


Yes, it is a dishonest use of numbers.  For some reason this poster seems to have a need to disparage the Police.  Noted...  And, other "groups" as well.  His focus on "Subsets" of people is very easy to spot and interpret.  Bitterness about something I suppose.

 

 

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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

To those here who disgustingly and erroneously call others here "police hater": 

 

Have you looked at the data in this data base? Have you looked at the methodology used in compiling this data base? There is a link to the methodology used and separate links to each year back to and including 2015. It is quite complete, much more complete than the police data base that contains just over half of actual fatalities. The data base is quite complete, listing complete circumstances of each incident, the race sex and age of each victim, whether or not they were armed (many were completely unarmed), what they were armed with, etc. etc.  It is an excellent source to educate one's self about the proper and improper actions taken by police across our nation.

 

Do those who call others here police haters also call those who create and update this data base "police haters"? If so ........ why?

 

The "police hater" comment is baiting, slandering, hateful, attacking, totally unjustified and in my opinion only one obsessed with hate would use such a term.


The list is used to convey an erroneous impression of police officers. No, the "list" does not.  The "list" shows each incident and all of it's circumstances for anyone with intelligence to read and discern if any killing was necessary or not. The vast majority are. If you interpret the data base to "convey an erroneous impression", it's in your own mind. If there are unjustified shootings - by all means expose them. Many of those shot and killed were unarmed, yes the data base exposes that, but the data base is not "used to convey an erroneous impression of the police". But to lump them all together only offers the opportunity to those who desire to do so (for whatever reason) to show police in a bad light. Sorry you "lump them all together" instead of differentiating by the detailed information provided.   You see .......... You are the one "lumping them all together", not the data base nor the person who posted this data base here.


 


We'll have to agree to disagee. When individual cases are brought up - that has real meaning as to real happenings. Of course...... there are over 900 "rael happenings", not jsut those you want to cherry-pick. My point exactly - you want to use the large number to convey an inaccurate impression. The list inaccurately paints a negative picture of the police.  No, it doesn't.  You choose to see it as you choose to do. If very, very few are inappropriate and the headline says "over 899" - that is dishonest..


 


 

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

The list inaccurately paints a negative picture of the police.

Not if one actually looks at the data base instead of just a total number. That's why links are provided to look at the information in data base.  I know that must be confusing for conservatives and so-called independents.


Why put up a misleading headline and require digging down into the data and making your own lists to determine the truth?

 

It is obviously intended to convey a false impression. 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

To those here who disgustingly and erroneously call others here "police hater": 

 

Have you looked at the data in this data base? Have you looked at the methodology used in compiling this data base? There is a link to the methodology used and separate links to each year back to and including 2015. It is quite complete, much more complete than the police data base that contains just over half of actual fatalities. The data base is quite complete, listing complete circumstances of each incident, the race sex and age of each victim, whether or not they were armed (many were completely unarmed), what they were armed with, etc. etc.  It is an excellent source to educate one's self about the proper and improper actions taken by police across our nation.

 

Do those who call others here police haters also call those who create and update this data base "police haters"? If so ........ why?

 

The "police hater" comment is baiting, slandering, hateful, attacking, totally unjustified and in my opinion only one obsessed with hate would use such a term.


The list is used to convey an erroneous impression of police officers. No, the "list" does not.  The "list" shows each incident and all of it's circumstances for anyone with intelligence to read and discern if any killing was necessary or not. The vast majority are. If you interpret the data base to "convey an erroneous impression", it's in your own mind. If there are unjustified shootings - by all means expose them. Many of those shot and killed were unarmed, yes the data base exposes that, but the data base is not "used to convey an erroneous impression of the police". But to lump them all together only offers the opportunity to those who desire to do so (for whatever reason) to show police in a bad light. Sorry you "lump them all together" instead of differentiating by the detailed information provided.   You see .......... You are the one "lumping them all together", not the data base nor the person who posted this data base here.


 


We'll have to agree to disagee. When individual cases are brought up - that has real meaning as to real happenings. Of course...... there are over 900 "rael happenings", not jsut those you want to cherry-pick.  The list inaccurately paints a negative picture of the police.  No, it doesn't.  You choose to see it as you choose to do.


 


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Just giving the overall figures without looking at the individual circumstances doesn't give a true figure of the statistics unless one wanted to paint a negative picture of law enforcement.

 

The overall figures are a near PERFECT reflection of the intent of the data-base.....how many people are killed by police each year.....5 years ago, society had new clue.....now we know.  That's the point.

 

Some, like yourself want to make the data something it was never initially intended for.


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@rk9152 wrote:

The list inaccurately paints a negative picture of the police.

Not if one actually looks at the data base instead of just a total number. That's why links are provided to look at the information in data base.  I know that must be confusing for conservatives and so-called independents.


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Displaying the data base for all to see with all of it's contents is straight up honesty. So the Washington post, according to your statement, is "painting a negative picture of law enforcement"? 

 

 


The thing is how the database is used, for instance posting only the totals is misleading because it leaves the picture of law enforcement being trigger-happy. Links to the data base are posted, they show all details, not "just the totals". Sorry you thin that the police are trigger happy.  Even breaking down to indicating what the deceased is armed with, or if armed, with can be misleading as well. 

 

Even with using the database a person would have to go through each individual circumstance to actually see details of why there was a shooting. Is that too complicated for conservatives and supposed independents? And the Washington Post isn't doing justice to the database You should tell the Washington post that. since they start off with a big headline in a billboard font with the number, then lesser font of  "people have been shot and killed by police in 2018".  That would indicate media hype to draw attention without considering the information.Well, it might "indicate" that to you, but then you are biased about this.

 

My quick analysis meant that I just looked at the database without examining the data that was used to arrive at it.  Perhaps you should have looked at the data more carefully and not made such a "quick analysis".The analysis used for this thread was to look at the billboard number of 937 and then to spread that in a negative way. 
The poster of this topic didn't use a "billboard", he posted links to the data base, it's your fault if you weren't thorough at looking at all of it and making such a "quick analysis.

 

Of course you have to defend the liberal mantra here don't you? Nope, I am defending the truth from being 'twisted' by conservatives and so-called independents.

 

 


 


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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

To those here who disgustingly and erroneously call others here "police hater": 

 

Have you looked at the data in this data base? Have you looked at the methodology used in compiling this data base? There is a link to the methodology used and separate links to each year back to and including 2015. It is quite complete, much more complete than the police data base that contains just over half of actual fatalities. The data base is quite complete, listing complete circumstances of each incident, the race sex and age of each victim, whether or not they were armed (many were completely unarmed), what they were armed with, etc. etc.  It is an excellent source to educate one's self about the proper and improper actions taken by police across our nation.

 

Do those who call others here police haters also call those who create and update this data base "police haters"? If so ........ why?

 

The "police hater" comment is baiting, slandering, hateful, attacking, totally unjustified and in my opinion only one obsessed with hate would use such a term.


The list is used to convey an erroneous impression of police officers. No, the "list" does not.  The "list" shows each incident and all of it's circumstances for anyone with intelligence to read and discern if any killing was necessary or not. The vast majority are. If you interpret the data base to "convey an erroneous impression", it's in your own mind. If there are unjustified shootings - by all means expose them. Many of those shot and killed were unarmed, yes the data base exposes that, but the data base is not "used to convey an erroneous impression of the police". But to lump them all together only offers the opportunity to those who desire to do so (for whatever reason) to show police in a bad light. Sorry you "lump them all together" instead of differentiating by the detailed information provided.   You see .......... You are the one "lumping them all together", not the data base nor the person who posted this data base here.


 


We'll have to agree to disagee. When individual cases are brought up - that has real meaning as to real happenings. The list inaccurately paints a negative picture of the police.

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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

To those here who disgustingly and erroneously call others here "police hater": 

 

Have you looked at the data in this data base? Have you looked at the methodology used in compiling this data base? There is a link to the methodology used and separate links to each year back to and including 2015. It is quite complete, much more complete than the police data base that contains just over half of actual fatalities. The data base is quite complete, listing complete circumstances of each incident, the race sex and age of each victim, whether or not they were armed (many were completely unarmed), what they were armed with, etc. etc.  It is an excellent source to educate one's self about the proper and improper actions taken by police across our nation.

 

Do those who call others here police haters also call those who create and update this data base "police haters"? If so ........ why?

 

The "police hater" comment is baiting, slandering, hateful, attacking, totally unjustified and in my opinion only one obsessed with hate would use such a term.


The list is used to convey an erroneous impression of police officers. Only to those who are obstinately intolerant of the actual purpose of the database....I think that would include several Conservatives here.  .If there are unjustified shootings - by all means expose them. When done, one poster whines incessantly and does their best to defend the cop.  It is YOU who attempts to make simple data something it isn't.  But to lump them all together only offers the opportunity That's funny coming from a trump supporter who supports EVERY distortion of facts offered by trump and attempts to defend him.  Good....I'm pleased you understand and "feel" the hypocrisy.


Well, no giggles but there is "Trump" - he has absolutely nothing to do with this topic. But, when one has no logic to post they can either say nothing or ..... Trump, giggles, fascists, racists .....the list goes on.

 

Or, some times a phony, "I'm pleased you understand".

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