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@Panjandrum wrote:

ChasKy53:  The Civilian Conservation Core, part of The New Deal. 

 

 

I'd bet that today's conservatives would try their best to end/sabotage a program like that. They would hate it.


Of course they would stand against it, it costs money and isn't designed to give to the wealthiest in our nation.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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Have you noticed that the Regressives here immediately pounced on the difference between "corps" and "corp" as an excuse not to discuss solutions.  Proving again that Republicans have no capacity to govern or solve the problems which face us. 


Yet you replied with a post about 'subsidising'  hog and bean farmers, so apparently you don't want to discuss solutions.  What does that say?  What have you done about the environment by being green? 

 

We have planted trees and plants all over my property, not just to be having trees and vegetation, but those that have a purpose.  This includes orange, satsuma, fig, pecan trees; even ornamental trees and flowering plants to attract and sustain honey bees to pollinate. It's relaxing to sit on our porch and watch the bees and hummingbirds among our flowers.  I can even sit here at my desk and watch birds enjoy our garden out of the patio door.  Nothing like contributing to the environment by furnishing a home for insects and for the birds to forage.

 

We even propagate these trees and plants (from cuttings) as gifts to others that they can plant them on their property. From the trees we have a bounty of fruit and edibles that is more than we can use; these we freely give away to others.

 

Ok, now that you have questioned another poster, what have you done to address solutions? 

 

 

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Have you noticed that the Regressives here immediately pounced on the difference between "corps" and "corp" as an excuse not to discuss solutions.  Proving again that Republicans have no capacity to govern or solve the problems which face us. 

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https://treesource.org/news/lands/ccc-tree-planting/

 

85 years ago: FDR’s forest army planted 3 billion trees in national forests, shelter belts

 

FDR's forest armyCCC members planted 3 billion trees, earning the nickname “Roosevelt’s tree army.” Photo: National Archives

 

 

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@gruffstuff wrote:

Plant Trees

 

We talked about issues and problems in the present and near future, climate change, automation, artificial intelligence, basic income.

 

A lot of that sounds far fetched to people today, but I think we have already had a basic income scheme that was a huge success.

 

We had the CCC in the 1930s, for people that don't know, young men could join the CCC and be paid $ 25.00 a month, they were given $ 5 a month to spend, and $ 20 dollars was sent home to the family.

 

That $ 25 dollars would be worth $ 455 today, I had five uncles in the CCC, that works out to $ 1654 a month sent home to support the family in today's dollars. 

 

They planted trees and did a lot of reforestation. Built parks, a lot of different stuff. 

 

Put people to work saving the planet, provide a basic income, build parks, prepare them for other public service, such as the military, remedial education, physical fitness ,  encourage other countries to do the same.

 

When I was a kid, my parents used to love going for car rides, we would pull over at road side stops and cook hot dogs and eat salad.  They told me stories about the CCCs then, I understand now those rides were them taking pride in what they had a part in.

 


 

Excellent idea!

 

I have visited the site of the first CCC camp -- Camp Roosevelt in the George Washington NF in VA. 

 

The first national park to establish CCC camps was Shenandoah.  When I worked in SNP in the early 2000s, a friend and I would look for, find, and explore the original CCC sites.  Nature is fierce in reclaiming her land, but we found remnants and artifacts which prompted us to further research the history.  Amazing what the CCC accomplished.

 

I have done the same with the CCC camps at the battlefields of Fredericksburg, Chancellorsville, Wilderness, and Spotsylvania Courthouse.  I see why your family is proud of their CCC heritage. @gruffstuff.

 

SNP-ccctransplantingtree.jpgCCC transplants tree in SNP

SNP-planting.jpgCCC planting in SNP

Photos courtesy of NPS (SNP)



    

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@mandm84 wrote:

 

So consistent Tex , pick on Obama's few misstatements , but say nothing about the falsehoods and blunders of plenty from Trump.

 


To the contrary, my remarks was about the poster using 'core' instead of the correct 'corps'.  Obama's misquote was just used as an example of the poster's gaffe.

 

My political opinion isn't to support Trump nor a Democrat; being more of an Independent which I've embraced through the influence of my heritage.  I actually believe that anyone who identifies solely with either political party forsakes the idea of democracy.

 

I do note that liberals here have a 'follow the leader' mantra where everyone goes along with the crowd with socialistic ideas.

 

So what does your post have to do with planting trees?  Another liberal trait of going off-topic.

 

 


Would an example of a "good socialist idea" be subsidising hog and bean farmers who have lost their markets and can no longer compete in a free market? 

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So consistent Tex , pick on Obama's few misstatements , but say nothing about the falsehoods and blunders of plenty from Trump.

 


To the contrary, my remarks was about the poster using 'core' instead of the correct 'corps'.  Obama's misquote was just used as an example of the poster's gaffe.

 

My political opinion isn't to support Trump nor a Democrat; being more of an Independent which I've embraced through the influence of my heritage.  I actually believe that anyone who identifies solely with either political party forsakes the idea of democracy.

 

I do note that liberals here have a 'follow the leader' mantra where everyone goes along with the crowd with socialistic ideas.

 

So what does your post have to do with planting trees?  Another liberal trait of going off-topic.

 

 

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So consistent Tex , pick on Obama's few misstatements , but say nothing about the falsehoods and blunders of plenty from Trump.

Maybe we should also give Trump credit for allowing the massive digging for Gold in Alaska's and the World's largest Salmon Spawning River.

Who needs stinking Wild Salmon , when a few can have GOLD !!!

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@Richva wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

 

The Civilian Conservation Core, part of The New Deal.  Many trump supporters probably don't even know what it was without Googling it. LOL

 

 


That from someone who doesn't realize that it is the Civilian Conversation CORPS, not Core?  Much the same as Obama calling 'corpsman' as 'corpse-man'.


Or Trump and the "Prince of Whales"

 


The emphasis was on 'corps' versus 'core' and 'corpse-man' not Trump versus Obama.

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ChasKy53:  The Civilian Conservation Core, part of The New Deal. 

 

 

I'd bet that today's conservatives would try their best to end/sabotage a program like that. They would hate it.

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