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There is an interesting example of how this can work from back in the '90s. CA had suffered major infrastructure damage from an earthquake. But, their roads and bridges were back up faster than anyone could have thought possible due to two things. First, they cut the "red tape" - sorry I can't give the specifics of that "red tape". Second, instead of the endless "cost over-runs" as is the norm with government contracts, they set up a contract that said there would be a penalty for late completion and a bonus for early completion. No surprise - it was done early. 

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Does that mean that you think streamlining the permitting process is a good idea or not?  I believe that the process needs improving.

 

No, hearing more about it is not a priority. How it is done, like how it got to where it is is really down in the weeds. I am pleased that the problem is acknowledged and an effort towards improvement intended. Well we all have different prioritiews in life. so I will disagree with you on that one. I need to know how is going to work, who is going to implememt it. If those are not a priority for you, hopefully they are the priorities of everyone els.

 

When you consider what was done under FDR compared to the the "Big Dig" the problem is obvious and it is about time someone decided to do something about it.


You bet, something needs to be done, but it needs to be done correctly. And that is where we differ. You don't want to know the particulars, and I do.
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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@Roxanna35 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@myexper wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

 

This is great news for Jobs and small business!!  Good Job President Trump, keep working...


Trump can't even get his White House "working".

 

And his continued vacationing and golfing is not considered "working" nor representative of a "good job".

 

And of course .... what Trump says he's going to do and what he actually does do are two very different things, usually the opposite!


Does that mean you are opposed to a speed up of the permitting process or that you are in favor of a speed up of the permitting process or that you have no idea what the topic is about and just want to vent?


I also heard him yesterday, and what i understood is that he will provide the States with a lot of power in order to be able to build roads, bridges etc. in an easier manner, and relax many of the bureacratic rules that exist today.
At this point, my only opinion is We will see how any of that actually functions at the State level.
LIke in Florida, nothing ever gets done, because there is always the matter of money. and because the idiot at the government mansion like all or many Republican idiots think that the more that they cut taxes the more services that they can accomplish.

I will be laughing my head off, as to what this State will be able to accomplish on that subject.
Northwest Florida is in a situation that roads are a necesity in order to even deal with the population that they serve. and guess what, There has never been any available money for any proyect regarding roads for this city.
So, we will wait and see. how everything works. and see how far anything goes.


Just what we need, more corrupt state governments trying to solve infrastructure issues like the Republican government in Michigan did with their water crisis.


If you do not want State governments involved in road building, what function do you trust them with? How about we just get rid of States and have just one central, all powerful government?

 

Who knows, in the brave new world of the Progressives, you may get your wish.

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@Roxanna35 wrote:


@k9152 wrote:

@MIseker wrote:
In Michigan, a republican govt has gutted the purse since 1990, and you can sure see it in the roads. they implemented fees and a gas tax for infrastructure, but they cant seem to stop shifting the money into the general fund. That fund is used to take care of financial emergencies as they pop up, like funding schools.

Does that mean that you are for or against President Trump's proposals to streamline the permitting process?


Streamlining the permitting process is just one aspect of the whole situation. is how is that streamlining is going to occurr, who is going to implemente it  and many questions that are still very much on the air. 
You want people to simply nod their heads on anything that Trump says, without thinking about it or hearing more about it? just blind acceptance? Maybe you do that, but I don't and many others don't either. So again, your question is really not the question that should be asked. the question is how is all of this going to come about.?


Does that mean that you think streamlining the permitting process is a good idea or not?

 

No, hearing more about it is not a priority. How it is done, like how it got to where it is is really down in the weeds. I am pleased that the problem is acknowledged and an effort towards improvement intended.

 

When you consider what was done under FDR compared to the the "Big Dig" the problem is obvious and it is about time someone decided to do something about it.

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All of this reminds me of FLINT MICHIGAN.  and what happened there. 
The State having powers with the infrastructure. Oh marvelous!!!!!!, said the developers of any State.

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@Roxanna35 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@myexper wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

 

This is great news for Jobs and small business!!  Good Job President Trump, keep working...


Trump can't even get his White House "working".

 

And his continued vacationing and golfing is not considered "working" nor representative of a "good job".

 

And of course .... what Trump says he's going to do and what he actually does do are two very different things, usually the opposite!


Does that mean you are opposed to a speed up of the permitting process or that you are in favor of a speed up of the permitting process or that you have no idea what the topic is about and just want to vent?


I also heard him yesterday, and what i understood is that he will provide the States with a lot of power in order to be able to build roads, bridges etc. in an easier manner, and relax many of the bureacratic rules that exist today.
At this point, my only opinion is We will see how any of that actually functions at the State level.
LIke in Florida, nothing ever gets done, because there is always the matter of money. and because the idiot at the government mansion like all or many Republican idiots think that the more that they cut taxes the more services that they can accomplish.

I will be laughing my head off, as to what this State will be able to accomplish on that subject.
Northwest Florida is in a situation that roads are a necesity in order to even deal with the population that they serve. and guess what, There has never been any available money for any proyect regarding roads for this city.
So, we will wait and see. how everything works. and see how far anything goes.


Just what we need, more corrupt state governments trying to solve infrastructure issues like the Republican government in Michigan did with their water crisis.


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So by "Permitting Reform", Captain Incompetent means that you can build anything, anytime, anywhere regardless of the impacts?  Interesting definition. 


Based on the quotes in the OP posting, it all sounds quite reasonable. Whether or not something will happen remains to be seen. But the permitting process has been complained about for many years, going back to at least several administrations. We need infrastructure improvements.

   I'm no DT supporter, but you can't dismiss everything out-of-hand.


Fair points as usual.  However, we can't accept everything out-of-hand as well.


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@k9152 wrote:

@MIseker wrote:
In Michigan, a republican govt has gutted the purse since 1990, and you can sure see it in the roads. they implemented fees and a gas tax for infrastructure, but they cant seem to stop shifting the money into the general fund. That fund is used to take care of financial emergencies as they pop up, like funding schools.

Does that mean that you are for or against President Trump's proposals to streamline the permitting process?


Streamlining the permitting process is just one aspect of the whole situation. is how is that streamlining is going to occurr, who is going to implemente it  and many questions that are still very much on the air. 
You want people to simply nod their heads on anything that Trump says, without thinking about it or hearing more about it? just blind acceptance? Maybe you do that, but I don't and many others don't either. So again, your question is really not the question that should be asked. the question is how is all of this going to come about.?

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@myexper wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

 

This is great news for Jobs and small business!!  Good Job President Trump, keep working...


Trump can't even get his White House "working".

 

And his continued vacationing and golfing is not considered "working" nor representative of a "good job".

 

And of course .... what Trump says he's going to do and what he actually does do are two very different things, usually the opposite!


Well it is working but there is always room for improvement.

 

He campaigned on streamlining permit approvals and that is what he actually just did.

 

So, you are just wrong.

 

 

 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@myexper wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@myexper wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@myexper wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

 

This is great news for Jobs and small business!!  Good Job President Trump, keep working...


Trump can't even get his White House "working".

 

And his continued vacationing and golfing is not considered "working" nor representative of a "good job".

 

And of course .... what Trump says he's going to do and what he actually does do are two very different things, usually the opposite!


Does that mean you are opposed to a speed up of the permitting process or that you are in favor of a speed up of the permitting process or that you have no idea what the topic is about and just want to vent?


None of the above.

 

My reply addressed a false belief of another poster, as was clearly shown and not as you attempt to contrive it.


So, you are not for speeding up the permitting process or against it.

Again, my reply addressed a false belief that another poster introduced into the topic.

 

That would indicate that you have no interest in the topic - just looking to pick a fight  - in some strange way - about the President's golfing - with a fellow poster.

No .... but that comment "indicates" further convolution of my reply by taking my words out of context and adding your words to it.


 


Once again, the topic is an effort to speed up the permitting process for construction projects - not the White House staffing nor golfing nor vacations nor "false beliefs".

Nor was it about the alleged good job and work Trump is doing. But of course you conveniently omitted all that in your selective criticism. But I didn't ...... and used the words you took out of context to show otherwise regarding the work and type of job Trump is actually doing.

 

 

 

Do you have any thoughts on the topic that you'd care to share??

I already did. But you also evaded that and posted an accusatory comment instead.

Again, I stated "what Trump says he's going to do and what he actually does do are two very different things, usually the opposite!"


 

DUMP TRUMP AND DITCH MITCH TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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