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Pelosi just pulled a major power move on Trump's SOTU

Nancy Pelosi just pulled a major power move on Donald Trump's State of the Union

 

Sometimes the best power moves in politics are conveyed in the most mundane language.

 

"Sadly, given the security concerns and unless government re-opens this week, I suggest we work together to determine another suitable date after government has re-opened for this address or for you to consider delivering your State of the Union address in writing to the Congress on January 29," wrote Speaker Nancy Pelosi to President Donald Trump on Wednesday.
 
Make no mistake: Pelosi's decision to disinvite Trump from delivering his "State of the Union" address to Congress is a total power play designed to remind Trump that a) Congress is a co-equal branch of government and b) his willingness to keep the government shuttered until he gets money for a border wall is going to have impacts on him, too.
 
Just in case you missed that message, Pelosi delivered it again in an interview with CNN's Ashley Killough. "This is a housekeeping matter in the Congress of the United States, so we can honor the responsibility of the invitation we extended to the President," said Pelosi. "He can make it from the Oval Office if he wants."
 
"He can make it from the Oval Office if he wants(!)"
 
What Pelosi is saying there is, essentially, this: Look, Trump can give a speech if he wants. But we are not giving him the platform of a bipartisan session of Congress to do it unless and until he reopens the government. (House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland went a step further in an interview with CNN's Kate Bolduan Wednesday afternoon, declaring that "the State of the Union is off.")
 
And from a logistical standpoint, Pelosi is well within her rights to rescind the invitation. As CNN's Phil Mattingly and Ted Barrett explain:
 
"It's the House speaker's prerogative to invite the President to give the State of the Union. While there's no precedent for it (that we're aware of), if Pelosi decides the President shouldn't go to the Capitol to speak on January 29, the President will not go on January 29.
 
"Keep in mind, in order to green light the State of the Union, both the House and the Senate have to pass resolutions. Neither have done so yet — and Pelosi controls whether the House passes one at all."
 
It's in keeping with her repeated and pointed emphasis -- in public and private -- that the new Democratic majority in the House stands on equal footing with Trump, and will remind him of that fact whenever she/they deem it necessary.
 
In her initial letter inviting Trump to deliver the "State of the Union" on January 29, Pelosi made sure to note: "The Constitution established the legislative, executive and judicial branches as co-equal branches of government, to be a check and balance on each other." And, when asked by The New York Times earlier this month whether she considered herself to be Trump's equal, Pelosi responded: "The Constitution does."
 
Pelosi's latest effort to assert the power of the House -- and her party -- over Trump will play extremely well with her base who wants maximum confrontation with and embarrassment of Trump.
 
There's an argument to be made, however, that it could backfire on Pelosi -- and in the processhand Trump a much-needed foothold in a debate he is very much losing at the moment.
Donald Trump Jr., in an interview with the conservative Daily Caller website, gave a preview of what the argument coming out of the White House might sound like when he said this Wednesday:
 
"Speaker Pelosi is clearly attempting to block my father from giving his State of the Union speech, not because 20% of the government is shut down, but because she is terrified of him having another opportunity to speak directly to the American people about her party's obstruction, unfiltered and without her friends in the media running interference for her."
 
Pelosi -- and Democrats -- will, of course, scoff at that logic. They will note that Kirstjen Nielsen, the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, was the one who designated the SOTU speech as a special security event. And that it is Trump who continues to demand $5 billion for his border wall -- keeping the government closed until he gets it. And that Pelosi is doing what she feels is the best course to keep everyone safe under the current circumstances.
 
But the question is whether voters who may not like Trump but who just want the government to reopen and politicians to get back to working for the people who voted them into office will see Pelosi's move to effectively cancel the State of the Union as an unnecessary provocation. And whether Trump, who is desperately in search of a life preserver in this whole mess, can seize on Pelosi's decision as evidence that the left is trying to silence him.
 
My guess is he's going to try like hell to make that case.
 
 
Looks like trump will need to find another location to lie to America.

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January 4, 2019

President Trump says he's proud of the partial government shutdown just as he previously predicted.

Asked Friday whether his feeling from December, when he said he would be "proud to shut down the government," still stands, Trump said that he is indeed proud to be "doing what I'm doing."

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Well, I am thinking that Mr Trump is going to have a very bad couple of years starting when Pelosi (or Peloser..............God that cracks me up) sent him the unvitation.  I knew he was in trouble when she was talking about the wall be important to Trump's manhood. The lady knows how to use a knife. Once Trump runs out of names (PeLoser again, he he) the entire strategy seems to be to hide in the White House and Tweet about how no one loves him.  

 

Such a Snowflake and now he has a teacher who does not care. 

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Pelosi doesn`t want Trump to explain the desperate  need for the border wall. However ,whether if is in the House or the White House Trump will get the message out with his SOTU on the date scheduled.

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@easyed598 wrote:

Pelosi doesn`t want Trump to explain the desperate  need for the border wall. However ,whether if is in the House or the White House Trump will get the message out with his SOTU on the date scheduled.


Trump gave his arguments about the "desperate need for the border wall" as part of his complaining for Republicans in the 2018 elections. The American people voted 40 Republicans out of office. I think they have already heard his arguments. 

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@easyed598 wrote:

Pelosi doesn`t want Trump to explain the desperate  need for the border wall. He already did on National TV just last week....it too was full of lies and the number of Americans supporting the wall, dropped.  Maybe some want to hear the same lies over and over again.  Why?

 

However ,whether if (sic) is in the House or the White House Trump will get the message out with his SOTU on the date scheduled.  Maybe he should try the waffle house....


 


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@easyed598 wrote:

Pelosi doesn`t want Trump to explain the desperate  need for the border wall. Centrists wrote-He already did on National TV just last week....it too was full of lies and the number of Americans supporting the wall, dropped.  Maybe some want to hear the same lies over and over again.  Why?-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------No lies-Wall is gaining support everyday-

 

 

Some good news for Trump on the border wall in new ABC/WaPo Poll:
Support for a border wall increased from 34% to 42%
Among college-educated, up 13pts
Among Independents, up 11pts
Among midwesterners, up 14pts
Among 18-39 yr. olds, up 5pts
Among nonwhites, up 6pt

 
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@easyed598 wrote:

@easyed598 wrote:

Pelosi doesn`t want Trump to explain the desperate  need for the border wall. Centrists wrote-He already did on National TV just last week....it too was full of lies and the number of Americans supporting the wall, dropped.  Maybe some want to hear the same lies over and over again.  Why?-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------No lies-Wall is gaining support everyday-

 

 

Some good news for Trump on the border wall in new ABC/WaPo Poll:
Support for a border wall increased from 34% to 42%
Among college-educated, up 13pts
Among Independents, up 11pts
Among midwesterners, up 14pts
Among 18-39 yr. olds, up 5pts
Among nonwhites, up 6pt

 

WOW, ANOTHER violation of the guidelines.  Not surprisingly, there is no reference to the source.  Shocking, eh?  Was it Breitbart or Fox?


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Some good news for Trump on the border wall in new ABC/WaPo Poll:
Support for a border wall increased from 34% to 42%
Among college-educated, up 13pts
Among Independents, up 11pts
Among midwesterners, up 14pts
Among 18-39 yr. olds, up 5pts
Among nonwhites, up 6pt

 

Centrists wrote-WOW, ANOTHER violation of the guidelines.  Not surprisingly, there is no reference to the source.  Shocking, eh?  Was it Breitbart or Fox?----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Open your eyes Centrists and real the top of the poll again.Jeeez!

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@easyed598 wrote:

Some good news for Trump on the border wall in new ABC/WaPo Poll:
Support for a border wall increased from 34% to 42%
Among college-educated, up 13pts
Among Independents, up 11pts
Among midwesterners, up 14pts
Among 18-39 yr. olds, up 5pts
Among nonwhites, up 6pt

 

Centrists wrote-WOW, ANOTHER violation of the guidelines.  Not surprisingly, there is no reference to the source.  Shocking, eh?  Was it Breitbart or Fox?----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Open your eyes Centrists and real (sic)  the top of the poll again.Jeeez!  LMAO!  Oh, they are open....that's not where you obtained the info.....it's right out of Breitbart.  It was obvious at the onset.  Maybe you should actually read the poll....

 

Trump, GOP blamed for shutdown; no crisis seen but fewer oppose wall (POLL)

 

You know, from the actual source....instead of Breitbart.  LMAO!


 


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Centrists wrote-You know, from the actual source....instead of Breitbart.  LMAO!----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------You posted ABC opinion(not poll) .I posted ABC `s poll and the link. You cannot deny the truth as much as you try. (not Briebart)      The lefties hate it when I link left wing media to prove the truth. LMAO

 

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@easyed598 wrote:

Centrists wrote-You know, from the actual source....instead of Breitbart.  LMAO!----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------You posted ABC opinion(not poll) .  LOL....wrong again.  I posted ABC's article ABOUT THEIR poll.......

 

I posted ABC `s poll and the link.  Another untruth.....  You posted bits and pieces of the poll from someome's twee which you found on Breitbart.  Why distort the facts???

 

You cannot deny the truth as much as you try.  No need to "deny the truth" because you haven't posted any.  But thanks anyway.....  Come back to see us sometime....


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@easyed598 wrote:

Some good news for Trump on the border wall in new ABC/WaPo Poll:
Support for a border wall increased from 34% to 42%
Among college-educated, up 13pts
Among Independents, up 11pts
Among midwesterners, up 14pts
Among 18-39 yr. olds, up 5pts
Among nonwhites, up 6pt

 

Centrists wrote-WOW, ANOTHER violation of the guidelines.  Not surprisingly, there is no reference to the source.  Shocking, eh?  Was it Breitbart or Fox?----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Open your eyes Centrists and real the top of the poll again.Jeeez!


Then post a link to the poll that shows all of what you listed and claim.


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@easyed598 wrote:

Some good news for Trump on the border wall in new ABC/WaPo Poll:
Support for a border wall increased from 34% to 42%
Among college-educated, up 13pts
Among Independents, up 11pts
Among midwesterners, up 14pts
Among 18-39 yr. olds, up 5pts
Among nonwhites, up 6pt

 

Centrists wrote-WOW, ANOTHER violation of the guidelines.  Not surprisingly, there is no reference to the source.  Shocking, eh?  Was it Breitbart or Fox?----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Open your eyes Centrists and real the top of the poll again.Jeeez!

Then post a link to the poll that shows all of what you listed and claim.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I wanted you to do it but if you wanted to be proved wrong then here it is--Support for border wall is growing acc to WaPo/ABC poll. Dems aren't doing much to reverse the trend

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@easyed598 wrote:
@easyed598 wrote:

Some good news for Trump on the border wall in new ABC/WaPo Poll:
Support for a border wall increased from 34% to 42%
Among college-educated, up 13pts
Among Independents, up 11pts
Among midwesterners, up 14pts
Among 18-39 yr. olds, up 5pts
Among nonwhites, up 6pt

 

Centrists wrote-WOW, ANOTHER violation of the guidelines.  Not surprisingly, there is no reference to the source.  Shocking, eh?  Was it Breitbart or Fox?----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Open your eyes Centrists and real the top of the poll again.Jeeez!

Then post a link to the poll that shows all of what you listed and claim.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I wanted you to do it but if you wanted to be proved wrong then here it is--Support for border wall is growing acc to WaPo/ABC poll. Dems aren't doing much to reverse the trend


It's not difficult to point out the disinformation and untruths of RW zealots......just far too EZ....

 

ABC/WaPo Poll

 

So many untruths.....so much deception.....no wonder they support the Liar-ib-Chief....they are so much alike.  Facts are NOT their friend.....


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@easyed598 wrote:
@easyed598 wrote:

Some good news for Trump on the border wall in new ABC/WaPo Poll:
Support for a border wall increased from 34% to 42%
Among college-educated, up 13pts
Among Independents, up 11pts
Among midwesterners, up 14pts
Among 18-39 yr. olds, up 5pts
Among nonwhites, up 6pt

 

Centrists wrote-WOW, ANOTHER violation of the guidelines.  Not surprisingly, there is no reference to the source.  Shocking, eh?  Was it Breitbart or Fox?----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Open your eyes Centrists and real the top of the poll again.Jeeez!

Then post a link to the poll that shows all of what you listed and claim.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I wanted you to do it but if you wanted to be proved wrong then here it is--Support for border wall is growing acc to WaPo/ABC poll. Dems aren't doing much to reverse the trend


 

 

 

Maybe you simply forgot to Post all the Major Points Made in your Own Source - let me Help

 

53 percent say Trump and the Republicans are mainly at fault, and 29 percent blame the Democrats in Congress. Thirteen percent say both sides bear equal responsibility for the shutdown.

 

BTW - Your Poll is over a Week Old - so let me Provide a Update As Well

 

TWO DAYS AGO

 

It’s Week 4 Of The Shutdown. Americans Still Think Trump Is To Blame.

 

A Quinnipiac University poll found that 56 percent of voters held Trump and congressional Republicans responsible for the shutdown (the poll did not ask about the two separately). An additional 36 percent said they thought congressional Democrats were responsible. Only 2 percent of voters said that Trump’s national address changed their mind about building a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border; 89 percent said it did not.

 

Fifty-five percent of Americans blamed Trump for the shutdown, while 32 percent pointed their fingers at congressional Democrats, according to a CNN/SSRS poll. (Respondents were not asked whether they blamed congressional Republicans.) The poll also found that most Americans did not support Trump’s proposal to build a border wall — 56 percent said they opposed the wall, and 39 percent said they were in favor of it. Those numbers are essentially unchanged from one month ago.

 

Asked for a CBS News/YouGov poll whom they blamed “the most” for the shutdown, 47 percent of Americans said Trump.  Thirty percent said Democrats in Congress. Just 3 percent blamed congressional Republicans. But 20 percent of Americans placed the blame “equally” on all parties involved. The poll also found that a large majority of respondents were either “very” or “somewhat” concerned about the impact the shutdown would have on federal employees (74 percent), transportation and air travel (62 percent) and the economy (71 percent).

 

An ABC News/Washington Post poll found that 53 percent of Americans held Trump and congressional Republicans responsible for the shutdown, while 29 percent blamed Democrats in Congress. Fifty-four percent said they opposed the building of a border wall, a 9-point decline from a year earlier.

 

Source - 

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2019/1/13/1825921/-Support-for-border-wall-growing-acc-to-WaPo-ABC-poll-Dems-aren-t-doing-much-to-reverse-the-trend

 

Source - https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/its-week-4-of-the-shutdown-americans-still-think-trump-is-to-bl...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Trump Has Responded

 

Dear Madame Speaker:

Due to the Shutdown, I am sorry to inform you that your trip to Brussels, Egypt, and Afghanistan has been postponed. We will reschedule this seven-day excursion when the Shutdown is over. In light of the 800,000 great American workers not receiving pay, I am sure you would agree that postponing this public relations event is totally appropriate. I also feel that, during this period, it would be better if you were in Washington negotiating with me and joining the Strong Border Security movement to end the Shutdown. Obviously, if you would like to make your journey by flying commercial, that would certainly be your prerogative.

I look forward to seeing you soon and even more forward to watching our open and dangerous Southern Border finally receive the attention, funding, and security it so desperately deserves!

 

Source - https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/01/17/our-nations-capital-has-officially-become-playground-tr...

 

 

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@mickstuder wrote:

Trump Has Responded

 

 

 

Source - https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/01/17/our-nations-capital-has-officially-become-playground-tr...

 

 

Proportional response


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Interesting. Will lil donny go ahead if he thinks all the Senate Dems will boycot his lying? That would make the "crowd" the smallest every to attend, sorta like his inaugural, but how will he lie about THAT? I guess the GOPers in the Senate could invite their owners from the Oligarchy to fill up the seats, but will that be a big enough crowd for lil donny? Curious and curiouser.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

Interesting. Will lil donny go ahead if he thinks all the Senate Dems will boycot his lying? That would make the "crowd" the smallest every to attend, sorta like his inaugural, but how will he lie about THAT? I guess the GOPers in the Senate could invite their owners from the Oligarchy to fill up the seats, but will that be a big enough crowd for lil donny? Curious and curiouser.


Do you really believe Trump or anyone else is concerned about how many people see him speak in person?  It's the TV audience that peLOSER hopes to deny him because she doesn't want the American people hearing from him about the shutdown..  And it's the TV audience he will get by giving his speech regardless of where he gives it from.

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@LeeV999430 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

Interesting. Will lil donny go ahead if he thinks all the Senate Dems will boycot his lying? That would make the "crowd" the smallest every to attend, sorta like his inaugural, but how will he lie about THAT? I guess the GOPers in the Senate could invite their owners from the Oligarchy to fill up the seats, but will that be a big enough crowd for lil donny? Curious and curiouser.


Do you really believe Trump or anyone else is concerned about how many people see him speak in person?  It's the TV audience that peLOSER hopes to deny him because she doesn't want the American people hearing from him about the shutdown..  And it's the TV audience he will get by giving his speech regardless of where he gives it from.


Donald Trump is definitely concerned about how many people are present to see him speak. You may recall all his lies about the size of the crowd at his inauguration.

 

No sane person may care about the size of the crowd in front of him when speaking but Donald Trump obsesses over it.

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A Major power move?  What a joke.  It shows how little peLOSER PINHEADS care about the country and the law.  Pelosi is just afraid of what he will say.  And rightfully so.  While the Constitution states the President shall report on the state of the union, it doesn't say where to do it from.  I'd give it about 8-5 that it will be from the House as usual.  If not, he'll either do it from the Senate or the Oval Office and it will be just as effective.

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@LeeV999430 wrote:

A Major power move?  What a joke.  It shows how little peLOSER PINHEADS care about the country and the law.  Pelosi is just afraid of what he will say.  And rightfully so.  While the Constitution states the President shall report on the state of the union, it doesn't say where to do it from.  I'd give it about 8-5 that it will be from the House as usual.  If not, he'll either do it from the Senate or the Oval Office and it will be just as effective.


Oh!!!!  are you afraid that he may not  have    enough audience?  why don't you apply to be there at the White House, they may take the public.

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Come on guys, you know what he's gong to do. Trump will travel to one of his resorts where he'll charge the Secret Service full market rates for their rooms,  make a nifty profit off of that, and then he'll give the speech in front of a Trump golf course. 

 

Oh, I almost forgot. During the campaign, didn't Trump repeatedly complain about Obama playing golf?

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Trump is a big enough narcissistic idiot to have a rally to do his state of the union at. ROFLMAO !!!!


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I've extended an invitation to do it from my backyard. Plenty of beer and burgers too. Voters registration card gets you in for free... if your a republican. All other pay at the door.

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@Fishslayer777 wrote:
I've extended an invitation to do it from my backyard. Plenty of beer and burgers too. Voters registration card gets you in for free... if your a republican. All other pay at the door.

You mean "hamberders" ?   It's free for Russians too, right?


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@ChasKy53 wrote:

Trump is a big enough narcissistic idiot to have a rally to do his state of the union at. ROFLMAO !!!!


Maybe even a military parade....


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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

Trump is a big enough narcissistic idiot to have a rally to do his state of the union at. ROFLMAO !!!!


Maybe even a military parade....


With troops doing the goose step .....


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