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@JANMB wrote:

My opinon the republicans won't BUDGE and something had to be done for the children and the hostages.... so give Trump  the stupid wall he's been obsessed with ...put his name on it......what a waste of $$.  


www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whats-in-the-1169-page-border-security-bill-to...

A  deeper read shows the bill also aims to decrease some types of detention and requests better detainee treatment and facilities.    THE bill focuses on other border security measures, as well as funding for scores of federal departments and agencies whose budgets have been held hostage for months.  


Yup 

 

Aims & Requests 

 

I'll be sure to revisit this thread in 6 months 

 

Who wants to guess what the reality will be 

 

Nothing Good Will Have Changed for Immigrants - Asylum Seekers - DACA or for anyone at our Southern Border 

 

Fresh Off Pelosi's Capitulation Trump Announced in Seoul South Korea just today that ICE is scheduled to start rounding up & deporting Immigrants Right After the 4th of July Holiday 

 

 


Why don't you give us in detail how Pelosi and the Dems could do all the things you want without destroying the entire govt. The bill passed was sadly the only bill possible under Trump, and far right Reb. How would you have them stop ICE. Trump is a dictator now and will do what ever he wants. They cut off funding he closes the entire govt. down. Trump and the far right do not care as hurting and killing people is what the far right has always done. Trump will find a way to get money have no fear, and the court system is well on its way to be under his total control.

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@JANMB wrote:

My opinon the republicans won't BUDGE and something had to be done for the children and the hostages.... so give Trump  the stupid wall he's been obsessed with ...put his name on it......what a waste of $$.  


www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whats-in-the-1169-page-border-security-bill-to...

A  deeper read shows the bill also aims to decrease some types of detention and requests better detainee treatment and facilities.    THE bill focuses on other border security measures, as well as funding for scores of federal departments and agencies whose budgets have been held hostage for months.  


Yup 

 

Aims & Requests 

 

I'll be sure to revisit this thread in 6 months 

 

Who wants to guess what the reality will be 

 

Nothing Good Will Have Changed for Immigrants - Asylum Seekers - DACA or for anyone at our Southern Border 

 

Fresh Off Pelosi's Capitulation Trump Announced in Seoul South Korea just today that ICE is scheduled to start rounding up & deporting Immigrants Right After the 4th of July Holiday 

 

 

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NO matter what ----TRUMP should take credit for the stupid WALL.....and the imprisoned children and the GOP who backed him.     And the democrats went along with the BILL cause enough suffering already....it's shameful.  ...it's embarrassing for this country and disgusting. 

 

History will show instead of these Trump stupid  policies that created a humanitarian disaster .. and a WALL to nowhere......the money would have been better spent on addressing the reasons why people left their homeland they most likely didn't want to..... obviously due to over-population,  lack of jobs  and everything money buys.   Of course criminals take over.... the USA should be aware of that after 34 indictments of crooks Trump surrounded himself with.        

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My opinon the republicans won't BUDGE and something had to be done for the children and the hostages.... so give Trump  the stupid wall he's been obsessed with ...put his name on it......what a waste of $$.  


www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whats-in-the-1169-page-border-security-bill-to...

A  deeper read shows the bill also aims to decrease some types of detention and requests better detainee treatment and facilities.    THE bill focuses on other border security measures, as well as funding for scores of federal departments and agencies whose budgets have been held hostage for months.  

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@MaVolta wrote:

What I posted was a press release from the MINORITY vice chair Patrick Leahy. 


A Distinction Without a Difference

 

Go Look At The Majority App Statement

 

 

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What I posted was a press release from the MINORITY vice chair Patrick Leahy. 

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@MaVolta wrote:

My remark about AOC was entirely facetious. You take it so seriously. It doesn't matter who she defeated, she still gets one vote, as do the others.

 

Exactly what is in the bill that you object too? And exactly what did you expect Pelosi to do about it?

 

It is my opinion that the Senate D's negotiated the best bill that they were ever going to get. It includes both safe guards and the funding. The House had negotiated nothing, zilch. The House bill was an entirely partisan bill that wasn't even negotiated with House R's. And you think it rushes to the Senate and what happens?

 

The adults in the Senate took control because the children in the House can't get along in the sandbox. 


All That Gobbledygook you posted was a - " Press Release " - from the Republican Senate Majority meant to allow the Adults in the Room both Republicans & Democrats to put on a Show Back Home About What A Great Job They Did About the Problems at the Southern Border

 

A Press Release is Not Reality -

 

Reality is Trump got 5 Billion to do whatever he wants - No Strings Attached

 

By the time any of this could be implemented and Not Followed by Trump we will be well past the 2020 Election and well past Democrats once again having to go to Court to try and get a Judge to Rule Trump is not following the Law

 

Trump has already told everyone he is not going to Follow Any Law created by Congress even if he Signs it 

 

The Credible Information I posted cleary show Pelosi did not want this Bill to pass the Seante

 

Pelosi wanted her Bill and the Senate Bill to go to Conference and be combined and she expected Schumer to support that position

 

The Issue here is that once Again - Pelosi Caved

 

Once Again Pelosi was not willing to - Go To the Mattresses On Behalf of even her own Position on this Issue and certainly not for the American People

 

Once Again She Refuses To Oppose Trump McConnell or even a handful of the Cowards in her Own Caucus who are only concerned about Staying Invisible - not making waves - so that when the Voters go to the Polls the only thing they see & remember is a Familiar Incumbent Name - Not Controversey

 

Moderate Middle of the Road is Fine if you're a Coward

 

I went to Vietnam - Trump went to Studio 54 - we all have choices - the safe one is not always the Best Choice or the Correct Choice except when you are relying on a Uninformed American Electorate - who was so easily convinced to Elect Trump when they clearly had one of the most Experienced Seasoned Informed Politicans as the other choice

 

This is the same Electorate who bought it when Career Politicians - Career Incumbent Politicians told them Vietnam and Iraq and Syria and now possibly Iran was/is necessary

 

Kennedy Could Have Taken the Middle of the Road on the Cuban Missle Crisis - He Didn't

 

Truman could have take the middle of the Road on the Atomic Bomb - He Didn;t

 

Leaders Lead - Politicians Stand in the Middle of the Road so none of the Traffic in either direction impacts them

 

 

 

 

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Talk about all that Stuff - Accomplish Nothing 

 

The US Constitution clearly put the role for holding Criminal Corrupt Presidents in the hands of Congress 

 

NOT THE VOTERS 

 

Pelosi is merely running out the clock trying to keep her hands clean to ensure re-election of her Do Nothing Cabal 

 

If us New Englanders were Middle of the Road Citizens 

 

The rest of you would be bowing to a Queen Today 

 

 

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My remark about AOC was entirely facetious. You take it so seriously. It doesn't matter who she defeated, she still gets one vote, as do the others.

 

Exactly what is in the bill that you object too? And exactly what did you expect Pelosi to do about it?

 

It is my opinion that the Senate D's negotiated the best bill that they were ever going to get. It includes both safe guards and the funding. The House had negotiated nothing, zilch. The House bill was an entirely partisan bill that wasn't even negotiated with House R's. And you think it rushes to the Senate and what happens?

 

The adults in the Senate took control because the children in the House can't get along in the sandbox. 

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@MaVolta wrote:

I guess the Senate D’s don’t count? We have to run everything by AOC? Does she get to be dictator now? 


Straw Man Argument

 

AOC beat a Career 20 year Pelosi Incumbent - A Pelosi Sycophant - A Demcratic Party Establishment HACK

 

AOC beat Pelosi's Partisan Machine at the Ballot Box as did Dozens of others

 

Americans Don't Want Career Politicans and whats going on in Washington right now is a wonderful illustration of WHY

 

Career Politicians Don't Do Whats Best for Americans or America

 

They  Do whats best for themselves and a Handful of Corporations & Individuals Who Keep them in businesss

 

Trump is Evil - Trump is Corrupt - Trump Should Not Be President

 

Pelosi talks about Trump being bad but whenever Faced with the Opportunity to Do Something Significant to Attack Trump and Trumps Policies - she reneges

 

‘A betrayal’: Inside the bitter rift between Pelosi and Schumer over border bill

 

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told her colleagues in a private meeting Thursday that she thought she had a deal this week with her longtime ally, Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer: She would ensure passage of a more liberal border funding bill in the House, and he would back her up by persuading Democratic senators to fight for it.

 

Instead, Pelosi (D-Calif.) said, she was blindsided. Nearly all Senate Democrats voted for a Republican-backed bill that kneecapped the House and marked the most embarrassing defeat for Pelosi in the six months since Democrats took over the chamber.

 

“Schumer destroyed all our leverage on Wednesday by not being able to hold his people,” said a senior House Democratic aide.

 

Schumer (D-N.Y.), meanwhile, believed Pelosi failed to deliver on a deal of her own. After House moderates revolted Thursday, Democrats had to discard a plan to send the bill back to the Senate before an end-of-month deadline.

 

“They’re blaming everyone but themselves,” said a senior Senate Democratic aide. Contrary to Pelosi’s private assertions, the aide said, House leaders never asked Schumer to withhold votes in the Senate.

 

The breakdown between Pelosi and Schumer revealed the extent of the raw divisions among congressional Democrats and raises the possibility of more skirmishes to come as Congress barrels toward funding and debt ceiling deadlines this fall. Democrats in both chambers agree they have to be in strategic lockstep to have any hope of besting President Trump and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

 

Source - https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/a-betrayal-inside-the-bitter-rift-between-pelosi-and-schume...

 

 

 

 

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