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Paul Ryan, Trey Gowdy, and the heads of every U.S. Intelligence Agency state it did not happen. But facts and the truth never stop Trump Cult members from pursuing conspiracy theories.

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@Richva wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

rk understands that when an Administration uses government agencies to spy on the opposition for partisan purposes, that is un-American regardless of the word used to describe the actions.

 

He preferred and prefers the Trump agenda as opposed to it's alternative. If that fits ct's definition of "idolizes" - so be it.

 

He fully understands that the "Resistance" is totally based on hatred of Trump. He believes it has a lot to do with policies (his opposition to neoMarxism) and the political opponents use side issues to "stir the pot" among the more emotionally driven.

 


For those of you who study history, you will recognize the big lie technique at work.  The constant repetition of a lie, such as asserting that the Trump campaign was "spied upon" by federal agencies, even in the face of hard evidence that this is not true.  The hope is that the facts will be overcome by the lie and the less intelligent members of society, like the  Republican base, will believe the lie over the facts. 


I am surprised but pleased to see you admit to the Goebbels techniques utilized by the posters with a more leftward tilt. All this ranting and raving over the word "spy" while not denying that the politicized element of the Administrative agencies did on fact seek negative information from withing the opposition campaign.

 

It's like the other Goebbels trick - referring to a woman granted special entry to the country by the Obama Administration as "a KGB agent" when she spoke to members of the campaign. 

 

And, possibly my favorite, run on and on about indictments while overlooking the fact that no indictment has anything to do with the supposed point of the Mueller investigation.

 

However, welcome to the honest and reasonable side of the discussion.

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@rker321 wrote:

The question that we should all be asking is WHY
There is not evidence that Paul Ryan has any information from the Mueller investigation that there WAS NO COLLUSION ON THE   TRUMP CAMPAIGN WITH RUSSIA.
How can he substantiate this knowledge?  who told him that?   Mueller,? what proof  does he has in order to make such a statement. 
And the most important question is WHY?
Is he concerned about his future when he leaves the House.?  
Why?  
We can all speculate as to this behavior. and for sure non of us know what is happening to Paul Ryan. but something is quite evident. something is. Because without any evidence form the Mueller investigation to arrive at his conclusion does not speak well about Paul Ryan.

If he knows something that we don't know, then please, do  tell the American people. tell us as to how you learned what you have stated. Don't throw out those statements that you cannot substitute. We as Americans have the right to know the truth.


No doubt the reason that there is no evidence of COLLUSION is that there was no COLLUSION.

 

If there was evidence of COLUSSION do you really think the investigation of COLLUSION would have been obsessing over who did business with Turkey and who businessman Trump had sex with nearly a decade ago?

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

Thank You Very Much RK for proving every one of my points.


Yes, that is the silly game often played by those unable to make their point but unable to admit it or further defend it.

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@rk9152 wrote:

rk understands that when an Administration uses government agencies to spy on the opposition for partisan purposes, that is un-American regardless of the word used to describe the actions.

 

He preferred and prefers the Trump agenda as opposed to it's alternative. If that fits ct's definition of "idolizes" - so be it.

 

He fully understands that the "Resistance" is totally based on hatred of Trump. He believes it has a lot to do with policies (his opposition to neoMarxism) and the political opponents use side issues to "stir the pot" among the more emotionally driven.

 


For those of you who study history, you will recognize the big lie technique at work.  The constant repetition of a lie, such as asserting that the Trump campaign was "spied upon" by federal agencies, even in the face of hard evidence that this is not true.  The hope is that the facts will be overcome by the lie and the less intelligent members of society, like the  Republican base, will believe the lie over the facts. 

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This is too funny. What's even funnier is that after they've all seen the same material, and the ones disputing Trump's claim all attended the same briefing (including Nunes), that the majority consensus is that no spying went on. Nunes is strangely quiet. Perhaps he's realizing he's let Trump sink his political career enough, to the point he may never be able to retrieve it from the swamp.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (13 pages of lies and growing)
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The question that we should all be asking is WHY
There is not evidence that Paul Ryan has any information from the Mueller investigation that there WAS NO COLLUSION ON THE   TRUMP CAMPAIGN WITH RUSSIA.
How can he substantiate this knowledge?  who told him that?   Mueller,? what proof  does he has in order to make such a statement. 
And the most important question is WHY?
Is he concerned about his future when he leaves the House.?  
Why?  
We can all speculate as to this behavior. and for sure non of us know what is happening to Paul Ryan. but something is quite evident. something is. Because without any evidence form the Mueller investigation to arrive at his conclusion does not speak well about Paul Ryan.

If he knows something that we don't know, then please, do  tell the American people. tell us as to how you learned what you have stated. Don't throw out those statements that you cannot substitute. We as Americans have the right to know the truth.

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Thank You Very Much RK for proving every one of my points.

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

As usual, RK is clueless on this topic.

  • He doesn't understand the significant differences between a spy and an informant
  • He completely misunderstood what Trey Gowdy said. Of course RK did, because he idolizes Donald Trump and thinks the pathological liar in the White House is a pillar of morality.
  • RK is also clueless that the majority of opposition to his hero is not based upon policies, it's based upon conduct in office and a total lack of character.

rk understands that when an Administration uses government agencies to spy on the opposition for partisan purposes, that is un-American regardless of the word used to describe the actions.

 

He preferred and prefers the Trump agenda as opposed to it's alternative. If that fits ct's definition of "idolizes" - so be it.

 

He fully understands that the "Resistance" is totally based on hatred of Trump. He believes it has a lot to do with policies (his opposition to neoMarxism) and the political opponents use side issues to "stir the pot" among the more emotionally driven.

 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@angeleyes64 wrote:

It's about time he got some guts and acts like a grown man doing his JOB. If he does nothing else right now he can at least be an American who loves his Country and helps it and not the Party.


What has any of that to do with the FBI spying on the Trump campaign?


Nothing whatsoever - because the FBI undoubtedly did NOT spy on the trump campaign.

 

 

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