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One question... how does "sold us out to the Russians" become "the Russians effected the outcome of the elections" in your mind?


It doesn't. There is the claim that the elections were stolen by the Russians. When there is nothing to substantiate that, some revert to more ambiguous terms such as "sold us out" without any specificity.


Obviously, it does. You inferred something that wasn't said.


Obviously what does what? The initial claim was Russian collusion to effect the elections. And now it has changed to "sold us out" - what is it that I inferred?

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One question... how does "sold us out to the Russians" become "the Russians effected the outcome of the elections" in your mind?


It doesn't. There is the claim that the elections were stolen by the Russians. When there is nothing to substantiate that, some revert to more ambiguous terms such as "sold us out" without any specificity.


Obviously, it does. You inferred something that wasn't said.

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Can you honestly say you are not familiar with the current application of the term?


 

 

I am familiar with your application of the term. I just don't think it's an appropriate application, as it fits the right-whingers so much better.

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I don't understand the obsession with Hillary, who's no longer the leader of the Democratic Party

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Another nonsensical statement - approved by your kudo stalker.


Are you her "kudo stalker"?  Because you seem to be stalking her kudos.


Sounds fair - was Hillary asked questions under oath about the emails under subpoena that were destroyed?

 

How about her campaign joining with the FBI to acquire the Fusion GPS dossier which was then used by the Administration to get FISA approval for the spying on the opposition.

 

And then, Administration insiders unmasking members of the opposition campaign.

 

Any thoughts on that??


Gee I was listening to Shawn today and heard the same things from him just about word for word. Fox news has been pushing the same thing also. Here is a message to all. Go listen to Shawn for about 15 min., watch FOX New for the same amount of time. I have never heard such nonsense. Shawn was blaming all that is going on in US on Hillary and Obama. Did you know Obama and Hillary made a deal when he first ran for Pres. that Hillary would drop out if Obama made her Sec. of State? That is what Shawn told all today. He said this was the start. Did you know Hillary had her really cheap unsecured server set up in her garage. That is what Shawn said today. She did not want to use the secure State Dept. Server per Shawn. (Note Hillary's server was never hacked, the State Depts was.). Russia started working with Hillary to defeat Trump. Yes Shawn said that to. The Clinton Foundation had to be paid by any one, and country, etc. that wanted to have access to the State Dept.  Yes Shawn said that today. I could go on but you can see the nonsense and lies that were coming from Shawn. No person with any idea of reality could think what he said was true. It was like a comedy hour. What makes it worse is there are people who believe what Shawn says. We see it posed in here. The far right followers just do as they are told post everywhere they can, and the leaders fill in the blank posting spots using BOTS just as the Russians have taught them.

Never in my lifetime have I seen such a group of people as the current far right Reb. supporters of Trump. They are destroying the US. Time to end this. How? By voting out of office everyone one with an R at all levels of government. That will make the Reb. Party get rid of the far right nuts and become the party it used to be. It will mean Trump will be gone by Congress. The the US can function again. Lastly. Go listen to some of the nonsense being put out by the far right.


I am delighted to here that Shawn reads my posts to inspire him.

 

Now, can we get beyond Shawn, bot, Fox, and Trump? Any thoughts on the post you were theoretically responding to?


No we can not get past Shawn and the far right rep. who create this type of nonsense and have their followers spread it around to keep us from thinking about the big problems. Nice try to cover up who the masters and followers are. Only a member of the far right rep. would think it is true. We need to end all of these far right rep. lies by never voting for anyone with an R behind their name at any level until the party cleans house of the far right and returns to what it once was. A real part of the American System.


Well now, john, that is a shame because Shawn, bot, Fox, and Trump are not here, it's only us guys (generic). So, if you'd like to discuss areas in which we do not agree, you are going to have to settle for me.


No you are incorrect. They are here. Want me to tell you who they are?


Sure, what handle does Shawn use, what handle does bot use. what handle does Fox use, and what handle does Trump use here?


you


I have not seen a poster named "you". Or are you suggesting that I am the President of the United States?

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@Cirice wrote:

@rk9152

 

One question... how does "sold us out to the Russians" become "the Russians effected the outcome of the elections" in your mind?


It doesn't. There is the claim that the elections were stolen by the Russians. When there is nothing to substantiate that, some revert to more ambiguous terms such as "sold us out" without any specificity.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

Today's GOPerLords are the ideolgical decendants of the scum who ranted that Eisenhower was a Commie spy, probably because he sent in the 101st Airbourne to escort black students into Little Rock High.

 

No real change in their ideology or ignorance over the last half century, but now they've got their own Network and major political party to help spread their viral lies and visceral hate.

 

They cannot stand the fact their actual criminal members keep getting arrested and jailed, but the imaginary criminality they concocted for Hillary cannot survive in the light, so they must pretend the FBI has been corrupted to only arrest right wing nutjobs.

 

Now they've enlisted the Russians to help make sure the tinfoil hat brigaide makes it to the polls - What's next?


How is that rant related to the fact that Hillary lied to the FBI, the Congress and us about her emails? - and had her illegalities covered up by the corrupt DOJ. I frankly do not see any Russians or pointy hats in that scenario.


I dont believe your charges and insinuations. Do you have legal proof of those false allegations?


No - since she was given wide latitude as to "under oath" or not, she apparently did not break the law - which does not change the fact that she lied regularly.

 

Here's one for you - how about the destruction of subpoenaed emails. Do you think that is illegal?

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@MIseker wrote:

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Not sure I responded to this or not because everyone knows Hillary testified under oath. Just another bare faced lie or twisting of the truth by a wanna be journalist.  

 

Stupid to spread hate and corruption.  Stupid to present this as truth, see where it got Moore and soon Bannon?

 

Gee, I miss having a real president!

 

 


I suppose "everyone" knows that if "everyone" did not read the posted information on the subject.

 

And then the discussion is moved forward with pc stuff like "stupid", "Moore", and "Bannon". 


Nice dodge. 

When you were posting that Clinton never testified under oath..

was it an error? you thought she didnt?

was it more of your usual distraction from a topic? that topic wasnt about clinton.

did you just plain old lie?

 

Ive barked the wrong tree before..but i admit it when i do.

Is that part of your personality profile?


Right, she testified under oath in a very tightly controlled area - the reason for having a private server - period. On other occasions she and her staffers testified not under oath.

 

Now do you have some cutsey way to deal with that?


yes indeed. thats not what you said on another topic Smiley Happy

 


What does that mean and how is it germane?

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No change in tune. There were many hearings and interviews.I pointed out the selective use of the oath by the investigators.

 

As to the changes - argue with CNN (part of that well known vast Conservative conspiracy):

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/04/politics/peter-strzok-james-comey/index.html

 

Now, as to who has credibility, you might want to reevaluate your comment.


Round and round ya' go but everybody knows that you just can't distract from  trump having the lowest approval rating in history, nor can you distract from this:

 

The surveillance and the Mueller investigations rightly continue. Tic toc closer to trump, tic toc closer to trump, tic toc closer to trump, tic toc closer to trump ........


Approval ratings are not the topic. Now, any thoughts on the CNN report?


Your link is not the topic either. what were you saying about having credibility?


But it is a valid response to chas. Am I not allowed to do that?

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@Cirice wrote:
snow·flake
ˈsnōˌflāk/
noun
noun: snowflake; plural noun: snowflakes
 
1. a flake of snow, especially a feathery ice crystal, typically displaying delicate sixfold symmetry.
 
2. a white-flowered Eurasian plant related to and resembling the snowdrop, typically blooming in the summer or autumn.

Can you honestly say you are not familiar with the current application of the term?

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