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I truly believe that we really need to be very careful who is nominated for the Democratic Party.  If any of those called "leftists"    become the candidate for President in 2020, I will tell you that he or she will loose those  elections.

Although you all chastised me when I said that we should have a National Strike and most of you told me that this country is not Venezuela.

I can guarantee you that those will be the words that Trump will use as part of his propaganda in 2020. and yes, this country is not ready to have a socialist type of regime in this country now. not similar to Denmark or Norway. not at this time.
I truly believe that most of the citizens of this country do not have enough knowledge regarding what is Socialism to be able to make any decisions on this subject and are very fearful of the word and the actions that they associate with that word.

so please, don't blow it and let's see if we can have a candidate that is experienced  in the working of government and also they represent middle of the road policies. no extremists policies to the right of the left.

 

 


Based on your post, I’m sure we will not hear you try to claim membership in the Republican Party any longer. We’ve all suspected for a long time, but now you solidified that suspicion.

Good luck with your new found Savior “AOC”


lol  you wish!!!!!!!  what I refuse to be is a Trump follower which has nothing to do with the Republican Party. you can believe whatever you want to believe.  and believe me   will live quite well without your approval.  I have no intention of leaving the Republican Party, I truly believe that after Trump Republicans will go back to what they used to be.

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@rker321 wrote:

I truly believe that we really need to be very careful who is nominated for the Democratic Party.  If any of those called "leftists"    become the candidate for President in 2020, I will tell you that he or she will loose those  elections.

Although you all chastised me when I said that we should have a National Strike and most of you told me that this country is not Venezuela.

I can guarantee you that those will be the words that Trump will use as part of his propaganda in 2020. and yes, this country is not ready to have a socialist type of regime in this country now. not similar to Denmark or Norway. not at this time.
I truly believe that most of the citizens of this country do not have enough knowledge regarding what is Socialism to be able to make any decisions on this subject and are very fearful of the word and the actions that they associate with that word.

so please, don't blow it and let's see if we can have a candidate that is experienced  in the working of government and also they represent middle of the road policies. no extremists policies to the right of the left.

 

 


Based on your post, I’m sure we will not hear you try to claim membership in the Republican Party any longer. We’ve all suspected for a long time, but now you solidified that suspicion.

Good luck with your new found Savior “AOC”

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So you think that a man that has the qualities such as being knowledgeable  of the working of government, a centrist, a man that will stand up to Trump  is not a leader?


That isn't what I said. And besides, why not a woman? You don't think that women can stand up to Trump? What we need is the BEST candidate. You insist on labeling them yet they are all Democrats. Until we hear from them in the debates, how can we decide who is the best leader among them? Who has the best ideas to move the country forward? Who can best represent us on the world stage? Stop judging them until it's time to vote, and then, just vote!

 

Besides, you're a Republican, so are you changing parties, or what? Trump may get primaried. A lot can happen in the next two years, like maybe a lead shoe drops from the Mueller report, or from prosecutors in the SDNY. Who knows?



I will always be a Republican not a Trump follower and will not change my party just because in the present they have all gone bad. 
Not judging, simply making an assumption of who I happen to think will be able to beat Trump in 2020.  sorry but I have never been an extremist of any kind.  not a Conservative and not a Liberal. 
And if the Democrats make the mistake to put incharge of the Party to anyone that identify with lefttists  policies or ideas.  They will loose. I would have never  voted for Bernie Sanders. Actually as everyone here knows I actually voted for Clinton.

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@rker321 wrote:

 

So you think that a man that has the qualities such as being knowledgeable  of the working of government, a centrist, a man that will stand up to Trump  is not a leader?


That isn't what I said. And besides, why not a woman? You don't think that women can stand up to Trump? What we need is the BEST candidate. You insist on labeling them yet they are all Democrats. Until we hear from them in the debates, how can we decide who is the best leader among them? Who has the best ideas to move the country forward? Who can best represent us on the world stage? Stop judging them until it's time to vote, and then, just vote!

 

Besides, you're a Republican, so are you changing parties, or what? Trump may get primaried. A lot can happen in the next two years, like maybe a lead shoe drops from the Mueller report, or from prosecutors in the SDNY. Who knows?


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@rker321  - I disagree, and for this reason: What D's need most is a true leader. They need someone who can show leadership on domestic issues as well as foreign policy issues; someone who can bring a sense of stability and purpose, and above all restore dignity to the office of the POTUS.

 

D's would be better served to find positions that they like from each candidate and support those positions. Eventually, the leaders will begin to emerge.

 

What they don't need is criticism from within. And enough with the labeling, already! Who needs it? They are all DEMOCRATS, for cryin' out loud!!

 

Stop looking for the "perfect" candidate because you won't find one. Instead, D's need to find the best candidate. Let them debate the issues and let the leader emerge. 

 

Or as Bill Maher said on Friday evening, "Let's give them a chance. Let's not eat our own." New Rule: You Can't Always Get What You Want  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NELgksUcgDE )

 

 

 

 

So you think that a man that has the qualities such as being knowledgeable  of the working of government, a centrist, a man that will stand up to Trump  is not a leader?
There are many candidates that are running that in reality are trying to bring  forth policies that are too much to the left. and I really don't think that those policies  will be view by the Independents as well as you seem to think. and in 2020 we need a leader that has all of those qualities and that will appeal to Independents, disenchanted Republicans, and middle of the gound Democrats that voted for Trump in the last elections.  Hoping that is possible to find such a leader.

To date, the ones that have come up I really don't think that they are going to work for the whole country. and not just the Democrats.

 


 

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@rker321  - I disagree, and for this reason: What D's need most is a true leader. They need someone who can show leadership on domestic issues as well as foreign policy issues; someone who can bring a sense of stability and purpose, and above all restore dignity to the office of the POTUS.

 

D's would be better served to find positions that they like from each candidate and support those positions. Eventually, the leaders will begin to emerge.

 

What they don't need is criticism from within. And enough with the labeling, already! Who needs it? They are all DEMOCRATS, for cryin' out loud!!

 

Stop looking for the "perfect" candidate because you won't find one. Instead, D's need to find the best candidate. Let them debate the issues and let the leader emerge. 

 

Or as Bill Maher said on Friday evening, "Let's give them a chance. Let's not eat our own." New Rule: You Can't Always Get What You Want  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NELgksUcgDE )

 

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My guess is Joe Biden will run.

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Hillary Clinton was a centrist. 

 

So was Obama.

 

I don’t think it was political ideology. Just saying...

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@nctarheel wrote:

@rker321 wrote:

 

I truly believe that we really need to be very careful who is nominated for the Democratic Party. 

 


While you may be right, we will also need a candidate that doesn't take TRUMP'S LIES lying down.

 

They will need to challenge TRUMP"S LIES immediately and thoroughly.

 

They need to respond, not with politeness and political rhetoric but meet the TRUMP LIES head-on and with harsh words.

 

That is what lost the last election, TRUMP'S LIES ran rampant and the DEMOCRATS didn't really challenge those LIES forcefully enough.

 

Look what happens when a news reporter challenges TRUMP. He is told to SIT DOWN because Trump has nothing but the LIE to offer.

I don't  doubt that what you state also needs to happen, but all the other qualifications also need to be in place. experienced in government and being a centrist type of individual to appleal not only the middle States but also the Independents.


 

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@rker321 wrote:

 

I truly believe that we really need to be very careful who is nominated for the Democratic Party. 

 


While you may be right, we will also need a candidate that doesn't take TRUMP'S LIES lying down.

 

They will need to challenge TRUMP"S LIES immediately and thoroughly.

 

They need to respond, not with politeness and political rhetoric but meet the TRUMP LIES head-on and with harsh words.

 

That is what lost the last election, TRUMP'S LIES ran rampant and the DEMOCRATS didn't really challenge those LIES forcefully enough.

 

Look what happens when a news reporter challenges TRUMP. He is told to SIT DOWN because Trump has nothing but the LIE to offer.

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