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"Our Ignorance Of Socialism Is Dangerous"

 

A fairly accurate title seeing how it was written by a right winger !


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@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

It is nothing less than comical to read what the extreme right has to say that socialism is and describe the things that they erroneously call "socialist".

 

Their ignorance is astounding.


Anything in particular or are you just playing, "Let's insult 'them' ans swap kudoes"?


Well .............. no, not one thing in particluar .............. just about all of it.


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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:
So your solution to the inequality in wealth is having the government take the wealth away and redistribute it based on need? BTW, making more money is one indicator of success which you would seek to take away.

Where do you get these theories. The only people talking about redistribution of wealth these days are the Republicans. They call it "Trickle down theory".


Did you happen to notice that the response was to scout. That sorta takes away your "only people" theory.

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

rk wrote IP:

 

Along the same line, "Back in the 1960's Republcians wondered how they could get richer faster than the Middle Class that was closing the income gap at a frenetic pace" seems to indicate that you are assuming there were no Republicans in the Middle Class. That is obviously not true. Instead of merely spewing your hatred for the more successful, try looking at the real world.

 

It's obvious there were Republicans in the middle class in the 1960's. But as your post demonstrates, they had no idea what their GOPerLords were doing to them and still don't. 

 

Also, making more money does NOT make one more "successful". In the case of the situation from 1980 to the present, all it shows is one was a better theif.


Were there no Dems among the successful?? Your suggest is quite offensive to Dems I would think.

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@NOTHAPPENING wrote:
So your solution to the inequality in wealth is having the government take the wealth away and redistribute it based on need? BTW, making more money is one indicator of success which you would seek to take away.

Where do you get these theories. The only people talking about redistribution of wealth these days are the Republicans. They call it "Trickle down theory".

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

rk wrote IP:

 

Along the same line, "Back in the 1960's Republcians wondered how they could get richer faster than the Middle Class that was closing the income gap at a frenetic pace" seems to indicate that you are assuming there were no Republicans in the Middle Class. That is obviously not true. Instead of merely spewing your hatred for the more successful, try looking at the real world.

 

It's obvious there were Republicans in the middle class in the 1960's. But as your post demonstrates, they had no idea what their GOPerLords were doing to them and still don't. 

 

Also, making more money does NOT make one more "successful". In the case of the situation from 1980 to the present, all it shows is one was a better theif.


So your solution to the inequality in wealth is having the government take the wealth away and redistribute it based on need? BTW, making more money is one indicator of success which you would seek to take away.

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rk wrote IP:

 

Along the same line, "Back in the 1960's Republcians wondered how they could get richer faster than the Middle Class that was closing the income gap at a frenetic pace" seems to indicate that you are assuming there were no Republicans in the Middle Class. That is obviously not true. Instead of merely spewing your hatred for the more successful, try looking at the real world.

 

It's obvious there were Republicans in the middle class in the 1960's. But as your post demonstrates, they had no idea what their GOPerLords were doing to them and still don't. 

 

Also, making more money does NOT make one more "successful". In the case of the situation from 1980 to the present, all it shows is one was a better theif.

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

It is nothing less than comical to read what the extreme right has to say that socialism is and describe the things that they erroneously call "socialist".

 

Their ignorance is astounding.


Anything in particular or are you just playing, "Let's insult 'them' ans swap kudoes"?

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@Olderscout66 wrote:

Back in the 1960's Republcians wondered how they could get richer faster than the Middle Class that was closing the income gap at a frenetic pace. Then it hit them- we shift the burden of supporting the nation from those who can do so without giving up anything onto the backs of those who won't have enough income left over to expand their wealth!

They conned LBJ into cutting the TMR from 91% down to 70% in exchange for their support of his worthless War in Vietnam. Then Nixon got too bogged down in that same war, followed by his Waterloo-gate, followed by Jimmy Carter who had to raise taxes to try and get out from under the economy-destroying debt LBJ and Nixon had financed by printing more money and FINALLY they got Reagan who believed whatever he was told and moved the TMR down to 28% for the top 10% while increasing the tax burden on the bottom 90% by taking away all their deductions and killing Revenue Sharing which raised State and Local taxes on the 90% as well

 

Without the 91% or even 70% TMR, the ones dividing the profits workers created each year were free to keep all the money for themselves, which they did, which is why supervisory income AND WEALTH BOUGHT WITH THAT SURPLUS INCOME skyrocketed while the average working stiff say their wages stagnate and recede

 

The top incomes have ALWAYS paid for the civilization they lived in, a FACT going back to ancient Rome. The Robin Hood story was all about what happened when the Government took too much from the poor to finance worthless Wars, and the Sheriff of Nottingham was a protoRepublican.

 

But for some reason, GOPers insist paying for society/civilization with money from those who give up NOTHING to make the payment is WRONG and we need to drive the wealth of the bottom 90% DOWN by taking more income from them than they can "spare".

 

It's the whole mind-flop behind the GOPerLords like Romney saying the mortgage crisis was a GOOD thing because there were lots of people who really should not have a home of their own and are better off renting so they NEVER increase their wealth or have anything to pass on to their kids. Taht way the wealth will be available to those at the top for more reasonable prices and they can resume expanding the gap between rich and poor so when the Oligarchy takes over, they won't even KNOW anyone in the bottom 90%, so doing them dirt will become much easier and guilt free.

 

Still think before GOPers make "tax the bottom"  their pitch in 2020 they might want to check on the distribution of military grade weaponry. I do believe the preponderance is owned by those in the bottom 90%, and 2018 was a strong indication they are waking up to the REAL reason they haven't gotten a raise since 1985.


Instead of the same old venom, try reality. As an example "tax the bottom" is not reality - the "bottom" does not pay income tax and if you know of a plan to change that either offer it or please drop the silliness and get seriously involved in the topic.

 

Along the same line, "Back in the 1960's Republcians wondered how they could get richer faster than the Middle Class that was closing the income gap at a frenetic pace" seems to indicate that you are assuming there were no Republicans in the Middle Class. That is obviously not true. Instead of merely spewing your hatred for the more successful, try looking at the real world.

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It is nothing less than comical to read what the extreme right has to say that socialism is and describe the things that they erroneously call "socialist".

 

Their ignorance is astounding.


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