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@GailL1 wrote:

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Since Obamacare is so bad for seniors, why does AARP support it?

 


Have you ever heard of the doughnut hole? well that is part of Obamacare, and guess what some other issues that  if you are a senior you should know  about them.

As to why AARP doesn't support it. simple in a way Obamacare is not supposed to be for people over 65 but younger, so I guess that is not an issue that will impact seniors as much as the rest of the population. One thing at a time.


The ‘doughnut hole’ was introduced with Medicare Part D. Obamacare provided some relief by lessening the hit on seniors.

 

 


Yea, right - The current Administration moved the closing of the "donut hole" one year ahead of schedule - big deal either way 2019 or 2020 - With the cost of specialty drugs increasing, a senior that couldn't afford these real expensive specialty drugs before is still having problems paying for them even in the catastrophic phase.  THERE IS NO SPENDING CAP in Medicare Part D - the non-low income senior just keeps paying all year at one high price or another just to start all over again the next year - if they stay on the specified med.

 

Recent proposals by the Trump administration and Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) would address the long-standing problem by imposing a spending cap.

NOTE pages 17 - 18 of this site for proposals on Medicare Part D -

HHS.gov - FY 2020 BUDGET IN BRIEF 

 

 

Perhaps it is time that we figure out what would help and get behind the proposals, no matter who makes them or who support them - it is what works that is the prize.  There are several areas where there is much bipartisan agreement in this area of controlling drug cost.

 

Just edited to give some data:

Just over 1 million Medicare beneficiaries in Part D plans who did not receive low-income subsidies had drug costs that pushed them into catastrophic coverage in 2015, more than twice as many as the 2007 total, an analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation found.

 

The lack of a spending limit for the Medicare drug benefit sets it apart from other coverage. Under the Affordable Care Act, the maximum amount someone generally owes out-of-pocket for covered drugs and other medical care for this year is $7,900. Plans typically pay 100 percent of customers’ costs after that.

 

The Medicare program doesn’t have an out-of-pocket spending limit for Part A or Part B, which cover hospital and outpatient services, respectively. But beneficiaries can buy supplemental Medigap plans, some of which pay coinsurance amounts and set out-of-pocket spending limits. Medigap plans, however, don’t cover Part D prescription plans.

 

 

 


What was false about my post? I made no claim that all the problems were solved.

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I do not know where you are all going in this thread, but let tell you. You are going no where. Here is the fact: TRUMP HAS ORDERED THE AG TO STOP DEFENDING THE ACA IN A COURT SUITE THAT DECLARED IT UNCONSTITUTIONAL. If than happens all the ACA goes away and ends all the benefits you are now getting from it. Health care will go back to what it was 15 years ago and even be worse. You will have less of it and it will cost you more. The D hole will be back full time just as the pre EX etc. So instead of wasting your time on something you can not change spend your time trying to save the ACA. The best way work for the court case the local judge ruled on be reveresed or thrown out.  Make sure you do not vote for Trump or anyone with an R behind their name.

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@Snoopy48 wrote:

@rker321 wrote:

@t500452g wrote:

Since Obamacare is so bad for seniors, why does AARP support it?

 


Have you ever heard of the doughnut hole? well that is part of Obamacare, and guess what some other issues that  if you are a senior you should know  about them.

As to why AARP doesn't support it. simple in a way Obamacare is not supposed to be for people over 65 but younger, so I guess that is not an issue that will impact seniors as much as the rest of the population. One thing at a time.


The ‘doughnut hole’ was introduced with Medicare Part D. Obamacare provided some relief by lessening the hit on seniors.

 

 


Yea, right - The current Administration moved the closing of the "donut hole" one year ahead of schedule - big deal either way 2019 or 2020 - With the cost of specialty drugs increasing, a senior that couldn't afford these real expensive specialty drugs before is still having problems paying for them even in the catastrophic phase.  THERE IS NO SPENDING CAP in Medicare Part D - the non-low income senior just keeps paying all year at one high price or another just to start all over again the next year - if they stay on the specified med.

 

Recent proposals by the Trump administration and Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) would address the long-standing problem by imposing a spending cap.

NOTE pages 17 - 18 of this site for proposals on Medicare Part D -

HHS.gov - FY 2020 BUDGET IN BRIEF 

 

 

Perhaps it is time that we figure out what would help and get behind the proposals, no matter who makes them or who support them - it is what works that is the prize.  There are several areas where there is much bipartisan agreement in this area of controlling drug cost.

 

Just edited to give some data:

Just over 1 million Medicare beneficiaries in Part D plans who did not receive low-income subsidies had drug costs that pushed them into catastrophic coverage in 2015, more than twice as many as the 2007 total, an analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation found.

 

The lack of a spending limit for the Medicare drug benefit sets it apart from other coverage. Under the Affordable Care Act, the maximum amount someone generally owes out-of-pocket for covered drugs and other medical care for this year is $7,900. Plans typically pay 100 percent of customers’ costs after that.

 

The Medicare program doesn’t have an out-of-pocket spending limit for Part A or Part B, which cover hospital and outpatient services, respectively. But beneficiaries can buy supplemental Medigap plans, some of which pay coinsurance amounts and set out-of-pocket spending limits. Medigap plans, however, don’t cover Part D prescription plans.

 

 

 

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@t500452g wrote:

Since Obamacare is so bad for seniors, why does AARP support it?

 


Obamacare is actually "good for seniors"  as its provisions extended the life of Medicare by 11 years.  That's one reason why AARP would support it!

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@rker321 wrote:

@t500452g wrote:

Since Obamacare is so bad for seniors, why does AARP support it?

 


 

As to why AARP doesn't support it. simple in a way Obamacare is not supposed to be for people over 65 but younger, so I guess that is not an issue that will impact seniors as much as the rest of the population. One thing at a time.


I think he said that AARP does support Obamacare -

 

AARP is a membership organization of people who are 50 years old  and over - not just the 65 and over crowd - so a certain % of the membership and those to whom AARP touts to represent would be directly influenced by Obamacare.

 

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@rker321 wrote:

@t500452g wrote:

Since Obamacare is so bad for seniors, why does AARP support it?

 


Have you ever heard of the doughnut hole? well that is part of Obamacare, and guess what some other issues that  if you are a senior you should know  about them.

As to why AARP doesn't support it. simple in a way Obamacare is not supposed to be for people over 65 but younger, so I guess that is not an issue that will impact seniors as much as the rest of the population. One thing at a time.


The ‘doughnut hole’ was introduced with Medicare Part D. Obamacare provided some relief by lessening the hit on seniors.

 

 

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@t500452g wrote:

Since Obamacare is so bad for seniors, why does AARP support it?

 


Maybe because Obamacare is not so bad for seniors?

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Just for discussion, aren’t there some tie ins between the ACA, Medicare, and Medicaid?

Or is the commonality that trump and the repubs want to dump all of them along with Social Security!

 

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t500452g:   Since Obamacare is so bad for seniors, why does AARP support it?

 

 

You state that as if it's an established fact, so perhaps you can back it up with some facts?

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@t500452g wrote:

Since Obamacare is so bad for seniors, why does AARP support it?

 


Have you ever heard of the doughnut hole? well that is part of Obamacare, and guess what some other issues that  if you are a senior you should know  about them.

As to why AARP doesn't support it. simple in a way Obamacare is not supposed to be for people over 65 but younger, so I guess that is not an issue that will impact seniors as much as the rest of the population. One thing at a time.

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