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@angeleyes64 wrote:

Trump I think is President now,    NOT Clinton,   NOT Obama,  why would any other President be mentioned about giving Millions of $ to the Military for Mental Health issues for those who have Served this Country when he is in Office .  

 

Some how some always have to bring in Clinton and Obama  when you Mention The Orange Face and they don't like it or him in the topic pertaining to a problem he can help resolve and DOES NOT.  

 

 

 


These serious problems have been with us since way before Trump took office, and sadly will be with us long after Trump leaves office.

Could Clinton, Bush, Obama have helped, but did not? Mental illness is a continuing problem and like cancer, we don't have total cures. Pray, we will in the near future.

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Re: ONCE AGAIN, A VETERAN IS INVOLVED IN A MASS KILLING

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Trump I think is President now,    NOT Clinton,   NOT Obama,  why would any other President be mentioned about giving Millions of $ to the Military for Mental Health issues for those who have Served this Country when he is in Office .  

 

Some how some always have to bring in Clinton and Obama  when you Mention The Orange Face and they don't like it or him in the topic pertaining to a problem he can help resolve and DOES NOT.  

 

 

 

Live For Today, No One is Guaranteed a TOMORROW !
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Re: ONCE AGAIN, A VETERAN IS INVOLVED IN A MASS KILLING

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@nctarheel wrote:

 


@NOTHAPPENING wrote:


You don't know that he killed because he was a veteran.

Where did you get that I said he killed BECAUSE HE WAS A VETERAN?

 

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You must note the title of YOUR thread: "ONCE AGAIN, A VETERAN IS INVOLVED IN A MASS KILLING". The "once again" is a hint that you feel veterans are prone to do this evil. Now you know!

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@nctarheel wrote:


So you are equating those that have BRAVELY SERVED OUR COUNTRY, are having difficulty in dealing with MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, and have NOT received the HELP they need to..........

 

GANG MEMBERS IN CHICAGO!!!!!!

 

That is a terrible analogy and shows LACK OF RESPECT for those that have served.

 

 


It should be noted that those like Fangoh, myself and others have served our country even in combat areas.  As far as respect, we are aware of problems and difficulty some are having, have had, in the aftermath of service in those areas.  Probably more so than those who only pay voice recognition. These type of individuals are among those we served with and have been friends with. 

 

Further, it is not only the homeless veterans we should be concerned with, but also those soldiers who suffered wounds in combat.  A nephew, Navy veteran who served on a supply boat putting in the Mekong Delta, is suffering from terminal effects of Agent Orange.  Those in this category counts as well.  

 

Thank you for your appreciation for those who served.

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@fangoh45 wrote:

@nctarheel wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@mandm84 wrote:

Another white male mass killer.


Would it make a difference if he was black? This goes on daily in Chicago!


What goes on daily in Chicago..... MASS KILLINGS by VETERANS?

 

After all, that is the subject.

 

Talking about CHICAGO is merely an OFF TOPIC DIVERSION.


Not a diversion, simply a good analogy, showing another group of people guilty of the same criminal behavior, but for whatever reason never show up on the Libs radar screen. Veterans and law enforcement officers programmed to occupy all of their  screens.

In Lib land there would be no vets or police. What a happy world it would be... in their minds.


So you are equating those that have BRAVELY SERVED OUR COUNTRY, are having difficulty in dealing with MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, and have NOT received the HELP they need to..........

 

GANG MEMBERS IN CHICAGO!!!!!!

 

That is a terrible analogy and shows LACK OF RESPECT for those that have served.

 

Sorry that you feel that way, @fangoh45.

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@nctarheel wrote:

@NOTHAPPENING wrote:

@mandm84 wrote:

Another white male mass killer.


Would it make a difference if he was black? This goes on daily in Chicago!


What goes on daily in Chicago..... MASS KILLINGS by VETERANS?

 

After all, that is the subject.

 

Talking about CHICAGO is merely an OFF TOPIC DIVERSION.


Not a diversion, simply a good analogy, showing another group of people guilty of the same criminal behavior, but for whatever reason never show up on the Libs radar screen. Veterans and law enforcement officers programmed to occupy all of their  screens.

In Lib land there would be no vets or police. What a happy world it would be... in their minds.

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@nctarheel wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

There were around 20.4 million Veterans in the United States as of 2016 according to the Department of Veterans.  http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/11/10/the-changing-face-of-americas-veteran-population/

 

"Several studies and data from the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics show no evidence that military veterans — including those who witnessed or waged combat in Iraq and Afghanistan — are more prone to lethal violence than the general population."

 

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/military/veterans/sd-me-veterans-violence-20170109-story.html

 

It might be noted that this coming Sunday, November 11 is Veterans Day, but observed on Monday, November 12.

 

The approaching VETERANS DAY is duly noted and thank you for your service.

 

However....... There is still the statistically valid anomaly that 7% of the population (VETERANS) have committed 34% of the MASS KILLINGS since 1984.

 

That flies in the face of your quote that MILITARY VETERANS are no less prone to lethal violence than the general population.

 

How can it be explained other than many MILITARY VETERANS leave service needing assistance with MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES and don't receive the help they need.

 

What other explanation can there be?


All support and respect is due all our brave military.  Because one commits murder does not mean that most killings are BECAUSE they are a Vet.  Some have mental problems before joining up; I know some parents who thought joining the military would 'straighten' their child out (because they had problems); and then there's someone like the shooter at Fort Hood, Nidal Hasan, who was an Islamic extremist which had nothing to do with serving in the military (he was not a vet), but more to do with being Anti-America.

 

Do many of our Vets need help/counseling after serving?  Yes, they do.  I'd think most do.  And there are some who will not accept the counseling because they 'think they can handle it' themselves.

 

I think this whole topic is ridiculous.  Why do so many always have to blame someone....and it's usually someone else to make their side look better?!?!  Does that make you feel better to play the Blame Game?

 

"Love in spite of the many reasons to hate."  MLK

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Yet another VETERAN is involved in a MASS KILLING.

 

While VETERANS make up only 7% of the U.S. population; they are responsible for more than 33% of the mass killings since 1984.

 

Part of the cost of endless war is endless PTSD  for veterans after they come home. The American people are insulated from endless war, it usually doesn't even make the news, especially with Trump as President, everything is all about him.

 

We have trained, armed, professional, soldiers with PTSD in the community,  most of the time they kill themselves, ( insert thoughts and prayers here ) once in a while they engage in a mass killing ( insert thoughts and prayers here ).

 

So what to do?

 

Gun Control

 

http://fortune.com/2018/02/20/australia-gun-control-success/

 

How Australia All But Ended Gun Violence

 

 

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@mandm84 wrote:

Why not bring up Clinton ? Because he's not our President !!!


If you read all the conversation, if one president is brought up it's become the norm to reflect on other former presidents and their history (which was far from stellar).

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@mandm84 wrote:

Another white male mass killer.


Racist?  And sexist?

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