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@myexper wrote:

@jimc91 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Could somebody tell me what they mean by Socialism? Are they talking about the Madero/Trump style of government with bailouts and payments to the wealthy or the highly successful governments  in places like Norway?  


Here ya go...


You decry socialism as a prelude to Communism and then support Trump who praises and worships ruthless Communist dictators.

That makes no sense jimc91.


I'm sorry, did we all miss your VF link...oh that's right...the Alt Left Liberals don't post them.  Sorry, just your opinion then (which you are entitled to).  Just type 'IMO' at the end so we don't have to bother asking please.

 

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This is the tie that I have seen coming for awhile. The right wants to equate any social(istic) program to communism to scare people. But most communist societies were dictatorships in disguise, run by sociopaths and criminals. 

trump already has socialist programs going: tax break welfare for the wealthy, subsidies to farmers to cover his mistakes, and now paying large sums of money to kelly’s corp to illegally incarcerate and abuse immigrants...trump will just skip the communism to become dictator...no mystery here...plus trump is a thief and criminal...perfect profile for dictator!

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@jimc91 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Could somebody tell me what they mean by Socialism? Are they talking about the Madero/Trump style of government with bailouts and payments to the wealthy or the highly successful governments  in places like Norway?  


Here ya go...


You decry socialism as a prelude to Communism and then support Trump who praises and worships ruthless Communist dictators.

That makes no sense jimc91.

DUMP TRUMP AND DITCH MITCH TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
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Richva:    Could somebody tell me what they mean by Socialism? Are they talking about the Madero/Trump style of government with bailouts and payments to the wealthy or the highly successful governments  in places like Norway?  

 

 

 

I don't think you'll ever get a clear answer out of a muddled mess. 


Actually, I think the Regressives have finally decided they are talking about the Maduro/Trump style of Socialism. 

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Richva:    Could somebody tell me what they mean by Socialism? Are they talking about the Madero/Trump style of government with bailouts and payments to the wealthy or the highly successful governments  in places like Norway?  

 

 

 

I don't think you'll ever get a clear answer out of a muddled mess. 

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jimc's cut n' paste is a good description of the totalitarian Oligarchy it's leaders call "Communism", but he totally misses the lesson to be learned from his information.

 

The lession to be learned is in two parts:

 

1. We must STOP allowing Americans to ship our best jobs to the commie slaves in Asia!

 

2. We must START protecting American workers from the Republican Race to the Bottom, and give Americans the same basic rights to health care, a fair voting system and protection from predatory lending as everyone in the rest of the World's Democracies has had for DECADES.

 

The GOPerLords have gotten their panties in a twist calling Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, PPACA and Public Education "creeping socialism" since the first Great Depression their policies created.

 

The only thing "creepy" are the ones who want to continue the redistribution of income and wealth until they achieve a Corporate Oligarchy where the 1% control our health care, education and retirement because the GOP has privatized all those things and gutted Government to the point it cannot defend We the People against the ever-rapacious Uberrich.

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What sets us apart from China:

 

China is not a Democracy. The Scandinavian countries are. So are European countries. And the USA. Taiwan is also a Democracy.

 

Germany has a democracy plus free college tuition. They all have universal healthcare coverage (Except the U.S.).

 

socialism medicare.jpg

 

 

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@Richva 

 

Zeng: I think for me I really would like to recommend a series of articles, editorials from The Epoch Times, called “How the Specter of Communism Is Ruling Our World.”

 

I think it discussed many phenomena of how the specter of communism is using both violent ways and nonviolent ways to try to rule this world. In the West, they are trying to change their names into different names, but the essence is the same.

 

As someone who was a victim of the communism, I really want people to know if you really adopted communism what life could be. That is what I had experienced.

 

I think in the early days when the Communist Party was just founded in China, they also talked about freedom, talked about equality, talked about everybody living in heaven-like communities and society.

Many young people also got deceived. They went to … the sacred place of communism.

If you look at the history, many of them ended up being killed by the party, and all their families, all their children, they all suffered for generations, after generations they suffer.

 

Under the Communist Party in China, 80 million people died of unnatural death. That’s all the result of communism.

 

Like Chris said, socialism is only the primary stage of communism. Actually, officially, or theoretically, China now is not a communist country yet. It’s still socialism with Chinese characteristics. Officially, China is now a socialist society.

 

If you look at what the people have suffered there … This year is the 70th anniversary of the CCP came to power in China, so the 70 years were full of killing, full of tyranny.

 

If you want communism or socialism, I think you should read more about China. You should read my story first to know what the socialism really is.

 

I think many young people, they are very easy to be attracted by those rosy, empty words, or the rosy description of how beautiful those things are, but the reality is just the opposite.

 

If they know what those damage or how people have suffered, more than, I think, one-half of the population of Chinese people have suffered one kind of persecution or another, they would stop having those rosy dreams about communism or socialism.

 

I think it is exactly because what they already have in this society, actually ensured not by the socialism, but by the fundamental principles of a free society, they forgot how cherishable, how valuable this is, and they start dreaming of those very unfortunate, I think, elusive things.

I hope people can learn the reality of communism and socialism.

 

 

 

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@jimc91 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Could somebody tell me what they mean by Socialism? Are they talking about the Madero/Trump style of government with bailouts and payments to the wealthy or the highly successful governments  in places like Norway?  


Here ya go...

 

https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of-scandinavian-socialism/

 

 


Ah. That article is perfect Jim. So, you are talking about the Madero/Trump style of Socialism then. 

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@Richva wrote:

Could somebody tell me what they mean by Socialism? Are they talking about the Madero/Trump style of government with bailouts and payments to the wealthy or the highly successful governments  in places like Norway?  


Here ya go...

 

https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of-scandinavian-socialism/

 

 

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