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nor should government hostility towards minority Americans be tolerated either. Unfortunately Trump demonstrates this often and openly.
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@Panjandrum wrote:

aruzinsky: Yes, the people being discriminated against are religious bakers and the folks doing the discriminating are LGBTQ and their lackey local governments.

 

 

Being in a business that serves the public can be a real burden for bigots who think it's their right  to judge the public and serve them accordingly. Maybe those LGBTQ people should be able to opt out of contributing tax money that pays for the baker's police & fire protection, water ultily, the road the business is on etc. Seems fair.


" right  to judge the public and serve them accordingly. "

 

Wrong as usual.  That should be "right to judge the public and NOT serve them accordingly."  Your moral concepts of action versus inaction are lacking.  In fact, action vs. inaction is the difference between Christian and Jewish versions of the Golden Rule which I suggest you study.  And, I point out that legal actions are actions and, in this case, the actions of local legislators, state's attorneys and LGBTQ are immoral.  Meanwhile, SCOTUS actions are good.

 

"Maybe those LGBTQ people should be able to opt out of contributing tax money that pays for the baker's police & fire protection, water ultily, the road the business is on etc. Seems fair."

 

Sure, as long as the bakers can opt out of contributing taxes that pay for LGBTQ's ditto.  Double standard much?

 

 

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aruzinsky: Yes, the people being discriminated against are religious bakers and the folks doing the discriminating are LGBTQ and their lackey local governments.

 

 

Being in a business that serves the public can be a real burden for bigots who think it's their right  to judge the public and serve them accordingly. Maybe those LGBTQ people should be able to opt out of contributing tax money that pays for the baker's police & fire protection, water ultility, the road the business is on etc. Seems fair.

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Funny thing about civil rights. When the people being discriminated against show that they are willing to fight for those rights every....single....time someone else tries to deny them, the folks trying to discriminate get the message no matter who wins the first court cases.  I believe that is called "the handwriting on the wall"


Yes, the people being discriminated against are religious bakers and the folks doing the discriminating are LGBTQ and their lackey local governments.

 

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Funny thing about civil rights. When the people being discriminated against show that they are willing to fight for those rights every....single....time someone else tries to deny them, the folks trying to discriminate get the message no matter who wins the first court cases.  I believe that is called "the handwriting on the wall"

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-tosses-ruling-against-bakers-who-refused-cake-for-gay...

 

Supreme Court tosses ruling against bakers who refused cake for gay couple

 

The Supreme Court on Monday threw out a ruling against two Oregon bakers who refused to bake a wedding cake for a lesbian couple.

 

The couple, Melissa and Aaron Klein, cited religious beliefs as their reason for not providing services for a gay wedding. This touched off the latest in a series of such cases making headlines in recent years. During the court's last term, justices ruled in favor of a Colorado baker in a similar situation, stating that a state body demonstrated improper hostility toward the baker's religion in finding that he violated a state anti-discrimination law.  On Monday, the Supreme Court sent the Klein case back down to a lower court "for further consideration in light of" their Colorado decision.

The central disputes in the case -- which pits LGBT rights against religious freedom considerations -- have yet to be addressed by the Supreme Court.

 

A similar case involving Washington state florist Baronelle Stutzman previously was sent back so the state court could review its decision against Stutzman in light of the Colorado case. The Washington court upheld its decision, and the case is expected to go back before the Supreme Court once more.

 

The Kleins' case arose when Rachel Bowman-Cryer went to them in January 2013 to see about a wedding cake. When Aaron Klein asked for information, including the name of the groom, she told him there was none. Klein then said the bakery does not make cakes for gay weddings, court documents said.

 

Bowman-Cryer's mother, who was with her, said Klein quoted the Bible when explaining his decision.  The Kleins had to pay a $135,000 judgment to the couple for discriminating against them in violation of a state public accommodations statute. They ended up closing down their bakery.  The couple is represented by First Liberty, who celebrated the Supreme Court's decision as a win.

"This is a victory for Aaron and Melissa Klein and for religious liberty for all Americans," First Liberty president Kelly Shackelford said in a statement. "The Constitution protects speech, popular or not, from condemnation by the government. The message from the Court is clear, government hostility toward religious Americans will not be tolerated."

 

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