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Re: Nixon Fires Cox = Trump Fires Comey

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RK-- you seem to be confusing two different things.

1.  Should Comey have been fired

 

2.   Were the reasons Comey was fired at this time legitimate 

 

People who work with Comey in the FBI feel that he was a very well respected and a good director.

 

However,  there were more than a few raised eyebrows when he gave a press conference about reopening Clinton's investigation so close to the election. So his actions were questionable.  

 

Trump loved it and used every excuse he could to slip it into his campaign spiel. 

 

 Last week Comey talk before a committee about Uma  Aberdeen's emails, saying he had sent thousands of emails to her husband--probably a mistake, but it was a big one.

Raised eyebrows again. Not a peep from trump.

 

 A month ago,  in front of a congressional (?) committee, Comey would not back down with regard to wire tapping of Trump Towers. He very clearly said that there was no basis for the allegation. 

 

 Last week, Comey requested more money to continue his investigation into collusion between Trump, The administration, and Russia.

 

 When  Comey was let go, the original letter spoke about his release of information about Clinton last July. It is now May, 2017. To paraphrase the letter as I've said before, it said Comey was  released because of the way he handled the Clinton investigation.

Now seriously, RK, no one believes that. Especially when trump kept spouting off about what a wonderful job Comey was doing because of that very thing. That can't be denied--heard trump say it over and  over today as I listened to the news.

 

It is very apparent that the White House and Trump are lying about the reason that Comey was let go. Everyone has  in the White House has a different story, heck trump gave an interview today snd told a different story. 

 

The most obvious reason for the firing was that Comey was continuing his investigation into the trump White House and had even asked for more money to continue that investigation.

 

In trump's own words he said that Comey "wanted to be his own man," and inside sources from the White House have told reporters trump was livid about that. (CNN). 

 

 Well, as you know and investigator is his own man. He doesn't hotel to the very person whom he is investigating. 

And so....

The bottom line is that Comey was like a hound dog on  a blood trail. Trump knew it. He knew that Comey wasn't gonna let it go, and so trump got rid of him before he could finish the hunt.

 

So, should he have been Fired? Probably not

 

But, more importantly, and the second part of this argument, is the timing of the firing and the real reason behind it, which is

Comey wouldn't back off.

trump got nervous.

Comey was let go.

 

The timing and the multiple reasons given 

are extremely suspicious. In fact, they made Trump look extremely guilty.

 

 The air reeks with suspicion. 

 

 

Gee, I miss having a real President!!
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Re: Nixon Fires Cox = Trump Fires Comey

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@pc6063 wrote:

Jim--of course, today (CNN) we are learning that Rosenstein feels he was duped by the master manipulator, who asked him to write something up.  Word has it that Rosenstein almost quit.

 

Well, whatever, sooner or later, enough people will put country before self and the house of card and the joker at the top will all come tumbling down.

 

If we all get real, Comey was to close to the ties between the pres. And Russia. Everyone who is anyone knows it--the nation is in an uproar--the majority of the American people know this was trump abusing his power of president to avoid the truth being revealed.

But, the truth will be revealed and this Facist dictator, acting under the guise of a pres. will be exposed.


He did not want to take sole responsibility for the firing. Let's not overdramatize.

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Rk-- Yes, mean to Hillary-- if you really read the letter, you would have seen that the whole basis for the firing centered around the ungracious way that Comey dealt with Hillary Clinton.

So yes, the excuse last night was that Comey was mean to Hillary, and that trump didn't like the way he handled that investigation,  although you never know it from the way Trump was saying what a wonderful job JC was doing. You'd never know trump was displeased the way he  quoted JC on the campaign trail, every chance he got.

 

Today,  when faced with the outrage of the firing, which is obstruction of justice, albiet legally and cowardly done,

they're changing their stories.  Now its trump has been smoldering  for a long time and he didn't like the way Comey is handling the investigation--

yeah, no felon  likes it when the person investigating him gets too close to the truth.

So, surprise there's trump, talking out of both sides of his mouth, and telling his staff to do the same.

 

RE: Hillary-- The Democrats might have been mad at the timing of Comey's announcement that he was  reopening her investigation, but they certainly didn't try to obstruct that investigation, as a matter of fact, she publically said she welcomed it.

That is a sign of someone who is innocent, unlike trump who has obstructed and lied and diverted this investigation from the time it began. Your guy is guilty as dirt. 


So what is the bottom line, should he have been fired as was the thinking since the election and since Hillary's whine last week or should he not be fired because........?????.....well, there the thinking gets a bit thin?

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Chas-- funny, but trump is so ignorant about history, that I can imagine he wouldn't know who Nixon, "I am not a crook, " was.

 

 To bed too, these two men seem to have so much in common.

Gee, I miss having a real President!!
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Chas-- funny, but trump is so ignorant about history, that I can imagine he wouldn't know who Nixon, "I am not a crook, " was.

Gee, I miss having a real President!!
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Re: Nixon Fires Cox = Trump Fires Comey

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Posted this in another topic but it is appropriate here as well:

 

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Only Thing Man Learns From History Is Man Learns Nothing From History
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Jim--of course, today (CNN) we are learning that Rosenstein feels he was duped by the master manipulator, who asked him to write something up.  Word has it that Rosenstein almost quit.

 

Well, whatever, sooner or later, enough people will put country before self and the house of card and the joker at the top will all come tumbling down.

 

If we all get real, Comey was to close to the ties between the pres. And Russia. Everyone who is anyone knows it--the nation is in an uproar--the majority of the American people know this was trump abusing his power of president to avoid the truth being revealed.

But, the truth will be revealed and this Facist dictator, acting under the guise of a pres. will be exposed.

Gee, I miss having a real President!!
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Re: Nixon Fires Cox = Trump Fires Comey

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Mark Levin's comments on this comparison:

 

“Let me be very specific,” Levin continued. “Richard Nixon during Watergate ordered the Attorney General to fire the special prosecutor, he refused. Then he ordered the Deputy Attorney General to fire the special prosecutor, and he refused. Here, the Deputy Attorney General writes a memorandum, urging the Attorney General and the president to fire the FBI Director. The Attorney General attaches it to a letter, endorses it, and the President of the United States fires him. It has nothing to do with Watergate. But of course the media and the Democrats, one and the same, want it to deal with Watergate.”

 

“The president did not order, in any respect, an end to the Russian investigation,” he repeated.

“But I have a couple of questions, if I might, for Chuck Schumer, who is the leading demagogue in all this,” Levin added. “Tell me something, Mr. Schumer, can you name a single Russian, just one, who colluded with Donald Trump and his campaign? Just give us one. One. You got intelligence committees who have been investigating, you’ve had this interminable federal investigation that’s going on, let’s have it!”

 

“Now, I have another question for Mr. Schumer,” he continued. “You like these independent special prosecutors. Sean, have you noticed they all use the same phrases. We can’t trust the Justice Department to investigate. They can’t even name the FBI agents who are involved in this investigation. I’m sure they are career agents that’ll do their job regardless of who the FBI Director is.”

 

“But Mr. Schumer likes these independent special prosecutors,” Levin said. “Let me ask you something sir, do you support an independent special prosecutor for Hillary Clinton and her multiple violations of the espionage act? Do you support an independent special prosecutor for the Obama administration’s surveillance and unmasking of Trump transition team members, and God knows who else? The Israeli ambassador was surveilled. The prime minister of Israel was surveilled. Members of Congress were surveilled. Jewish leaders and Jewish groups were surveilled. How about an independent investigation of that?”

 

“Got another one, Mr. Schumer,” he continued. “How about an independent special prosecutor to investigate this whole seedy Iranian Deal. With the secret deals, the ransom payments, the release of terrorists that we find out after the fact.”

 

http://linkis.com/www.theblaze.com/new/rz0NW

 

 

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Re: Nixon Fires Cox = Trump Fires Comey

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@rk9152 wrote:

How does firing Comey effect, "what is it he doesn't want Americans to find out"? He fired the guy, he didn't cut his tongue out.

 

I too am anxious for these investigations to be concluded so that the government can get back to governing.

 

There are too many questions that need to be answered. One. of them is Why is Sessions in the meeting where Trump ahd the Deputy AG were informed to draft a letter firing Comey? Did Sessions crossed the line of his own recusal?

Apparently it is not true, that Comey absoleve Trump of any investigation not being about him. why the lie. ?
Yes, unless Trumps acts like the Godfather, Comey will speak and tell, apparently on closed doors next week.
Was he fired because he requested more money and agents for the Russian investigation?

Is Sesssion worried of what could be discovered in all of this cover up?
How can we go back to govern, when the WH is now riddled with scandals of what it could be found? 
Trump is being investigated for Money Laundering when he owned the Casino in Jersey.
What kind of man did we actually voted for? 

Disregarding on whether you are a Republican or Democrat,  I am getting the feeling that this is a very dangerous time for all of us.


 

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Rk-- Yes, mean to Hillary-- if you really read the letter, you would have seen that the whole basis for the firing centered around the ungracious way that Comey dealt with Hillary Clinton.

So yes, the excuse last night was that Comey was mean to Hillary, and that trump didn't like the way he handled that investigation,  although you never know it from the way Trump was saying what a wonderful job JC was doing. You'd never know trump was displeased the way he  quoted JC on the campaign trail, every chance he got.

 

Today,  when faced with the outrage of the firing, which is obstruction of justice, albiet legally and cowardly done,

they're changing their stories.  Now its trump has been smoldering  for a long time and he didn't like the way Comey is handling the investigation--

yeah, no felon  likes it when the person investigating him gets too close to the truth.

So, surprise there's trump, talking out of both sides of his mouth, and telling his staff to do the same.

 

RE: Hillary-- The Democrats might have been mad at the timing of Comey's announcement that he was  reopening her investigation, but they certainly didn't try to obstruct that investigation, as a matter of fact, she publically said she welcomed it.

That is a sign of someone who is innocent, unlike trump who has obstructed and lied and diverted this investigation from the time it began. Your guy is guilty as dirt. 

Gee, I miss having a real President!!
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