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@gruffstuff wrote:

  His followers who continue to deny what is happening are now just White Nationalist as they stand by and watch

 

Hiltler's Nazis had gawkers  too, when the Nazis rolled though Eastern Europe, marched  half the people in the village to a ditch and shot them, the other half the village stood by and watched as they murdered their neighbors. 

 

Nazis didn't think they were evil.

 

They were making Germany Great Again. 

 

So what to do?

 

Be a Nazi, be a gawker, or resist?


I choose "resist", and I hope the majority of Americans feel the same way.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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  His followers who continue to deny what is happening are now just White Nationalist as they stand by and watch

 

Hiltler's Nazis had gawkers  too, when the Nazis rolled though Eastern Europe, marched  half the people in the village to a ditch and shot them, the other half the village stood by and watched as they murdered their neighbors. 

 

Nazis didn't think they were evil.

 

They were making Germany Great Again. 

 

So what to do?

 

Be a Nazi, be a gawker, or resist?

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  Once I too believed that donald was too stupid to comprehend what actions his agencies were undertaking against people fleeing to the US for sanctuary.    Now, i believe he revels in the racism and outrage that his admin has endorsed.      His followers who continue to deny what is happening are now just White Nationalist as they stand by and watch - taking no action to indicate that they have any sense of morality or ethics or care for other human beings.  

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Hitler did not begin with extermination camps or even work camps. The first ones were "re-education camps" where those who harbored anti-Nazi ideas were taught to not have those thoughts.

 

Cadet Bonespurs is doing to same only he is re-educating refugees and the American People to fear coming to America. He has no concern about the conditions in his concentration camps - those conditions are delivering the Trump message - "come here and suffer a horrible fate...unless you're rich and white or from Norway."

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As I have said a number of times over the last year. What you have happening is a Dictator trying to take power just like happened in Germany in the 1930. The Dictator needs to have a group of followers who will do his dirty work of removing all opposition. The Dictator takes small steps at the start to see how far he can go, and makes changes until he is full Dictator. In Germany Hitler had his Brown shirts leading the charge. When he was full Dictator he got rid of a lot of them by jail, killing. Well with our Dictator Trump needs the same thing. He has 2 groups of far right. We saw one group in Va., and another part of that group with their white sheets in action. The other group is the Border Patrol, and ISUS as he uses people crossing the S border as Hitler used some groups. You solve the problem by getting the Dictator out of power or stopping him before he gets full power. In Germany it took WW2 to stop their Dictator as he had full power. We might stop Trump now if we get him out of power in 2020, and that is how you solve the problems you talk about on the border in this thread.


@john258  Your points are exactly why I don't believe this president is even intelligent enough to see what he is perpetuating.  This is very dangerous when he is in it for the popularity. 

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As I have said a number of times over the last year. What you have happening is a Dictator trying to take power just like happened in Germany in the 1930. The Dictator needs to have a group of followers who will do his dirty work of removing all opposition. The Dictator takes small steps at the start to see how far he can go, and makes changes until he is full Dictator. In Germany Hitler had his Brown shirts leading the charge. When he was full Dictator he got rid of a lot of them by jail, killing. Well with our Dictator Trump needs the same thing. He has 2 groups of far right. We saw one group in Va., and another part of that group with their white sheets in action. The other group is the Border Patrol, and ISUS as he uses people crossing the S border as Hitler used some groups. You solve the problem by getting the Dictator out of power or stopping him before he gets full power. In Germany it took WW2 to stop their Dictator as he had full power. We might stop Trump now if we get him out of power in 2020, and that is how you solve the problems you talk about on the border in this thread.

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July 1, 2019 - ProPublica - "Inside the Secret Border Patrol Facebook Group Where Agents Joke About Migrant Deaths and Post Sexist Memes"

 

www.propublica.org/article/secret-border-patrol-facebook-group-agents-joke-about-migrant-deaths-post...

 

(I'm trying to get the proper link above, but not having much luck - feel free to post a correct link)

 

First Amendment....Are we showing the world just how we as a country face crisis when it is in our own borders???

 

Do these people who have one of the most dangerous and yet very important position in our country, protecting the homeland, have to take an oath in order to serve this level in our country?  No really, I do not know am just curious if they have some oath? Again, another reason why the American people may not trust any types of law enforcement, imo!  Smiley Sad

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https://www.newsweek.com/over-30-jewish-protesters-arrested-after-blocking-access-ice-facility-14467...

 

OVER 30 JEWISH PROTESTERS ARRESTED AFTER BLOCKING ACCESS TO PRIVATELY OPERATED ICE DETENTION FACILITY

 

Over 30 protesters were arrested on Sunday outside a privately managed ICE detention center in New Jersey, which has been used to hold undocumented immigrants. Those arrested were among dozens of Jews who staged an action at the Elizabeth Detention Center to protest the treatment and detention of undocumented immigrants.

 

 

Invoking the Holocaust, demonstrators described to the conditions in which immigrants are being held as concentration camps and spoke of the immigrant children who have died while in ICE care. The protesters traveled from cities including Seattle and Boston to attend the protest, which was organized by a decentralized group of Jewish activists, along with members of the immigrant rights group MovimientoCosecha.

 

 

A spokesperson for the demonstrators told Newsweek that 36 people had been arrested and estimated that as many as 200 people had participated in the event. The Elizabeth Police Department told Newsweek that over 30 people were arrested outside the prison, which is managed by Core Civic.

 

 

After meeting in Kellogg Park, protesters walked the 1.6 miles to the Elizabeth Detention Center while blowing shofars, holding signs and singing and chanting in Hebrew and English.

 

 

Approximately 20 police officers, mainly from the Elizabeth Police Department, arrested protesters who were standing across the road, preventing access to staff and visitor parking lots.

Those participating called for "closing the camps" and for the government abolish ICE. As the police determined how to act, the protesters chanted "which side are you on, my people, which side are you on?"

 

 

The protest underscored the activists' frustration with Democratic lawmakers, who they say have been complicit in the immigration policies of the Trump administration. The demonstrators took aim at figures like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who just this week capitulated on a bill sending $4.6 billion in aid to the southern border. Pelosi had previously sought to strengthen protections for migrants seeking refuge.

 

 

"While Republicans are stoking the flames of white nationalism, Democrats are letting them do it," Brandon Mond, an organizer of the action who traveled from North Carolina, told Newsweek. "We want to hold Democrats accountable — people who say in their words that they're for immigrants but time and time again throw the 11 million undocumented people that already live in this country under the bus."

 

 

That frustration with legislators was underscored by criticism of the debate among legislators about whether or not the detainment centers holding undocumented immigrants should be described as concentration camps. After Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez referred to the detainment facilities as such earlier this month, Republican legislators fiercely pushed against the classification.

 

 

"Elected officials are spending more time arguing over the language used to describe these conditions than addressing the crisis itself," a press release sent before the protest said. "They claim to speak for us Jews, but they don't. We refuse to allow politicians to use our trauma as a distraction from the mass atrocities being perpetrated by ICE and CBP at the border and across the country."

 

 

The protest brought together Jews with a range of religious leanings, creating what Alona Weimer, a member of New York 's Yeshivat Hadar, described as an atypical cross-section of attendees for a demonstration.

 

 

"All types of Jews want to end the detention," Weimer told Newsweek, noting that many protests are primarily attended by more left-leaning, secular individuals but 20 students from the Yeshivat had attended the protest. "They don't want their activist selves and religious selves to be bifurcated."

 

 

Weimer described migrants' detention conditions, which prisoners of the Taliban and pirates have said are worse than those they were kept under, as a motivating force to engage Jews who are sometimes hesitant to engage in public political action.

 

 

With that momentum behind them, the organizers are planning additional actions across the country in coming weeks.

 

 

The protests will focus attention on the role that private prisons hold in the detention of immigrants.

 

 

The Trump administration's immigration policy and reports about poor conditions inside detention facilities have generated concerns about how the nation's two largest private prison companies, Geo Group and Core Civic, operate and their relations with law enforcement agencies. Days ago, Bank of America became the latest large financial institution to say that it would stop lending to detention centers and private prisons.

 

http://www.neveragainisnowfilm.com/#open

 
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