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Some things to think about on this.

The military in any country is set up as a Dictatorship. What the commander says goes and all follow orders. When you serve you are told what to do, when todo it, and even how. You follow orders. Sadly this is what is needed when you are going to fight wars in which you can be killed or injured, and do the same to your enemy. With that in mind it performs very far right so it should be no surprise that far right people feel at home, while others accept it as what is needed to do the job. You see the difference after the war. WW2 showed us that. In Japan our Commander set up a Democracy for the people which has proven to totally change they way that country lives and acts. The same thing happened in Germany. Before WW2 the loosing country was run as a Dictatorship by the military who won.

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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

Right you are, Sir Gruff!

 

Fareed did an excellent documentary on this issue in CNN's "State of Hate" and how, for many, their initiation began in the US military.  Remember the Oklahoma bombing?  Timothy McVeigh got his toes wet in the US Army in the Gulf War.


I watched Fareed's special and it was indeed informative and eye opening! I will try to post a link to it below because it needs more awareness. Thanks, Centristsin!

 

https://g.co/kgs/GJiZ6H

 

Here is another link to Frontline's special on the rise of hate in the US:

 

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/jPLvWO_SOgM" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

 

 

I hope the links work....I tried.

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Right you are, Sir Gruff!

 

Fareed did an excellent documentary on this issue in CNN's "State of Hate" and how, for many, their initiation began in the US military.  Remember the Oklahoma bombing?  Timothy McVeigh got his toes wet in the US Army in the Gulf War.


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in DC, 1/27/2017
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Is that a cross he is wearing???  I truly hope it is not the cross of Christianity!!!  I am so heartbroken to see this....like many, many others who have lost a loved one fighting for this country in foreign lands, this is so disturbing! crying eye.jpeg

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"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in DC, 1/27/2017
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I must believe that so many did not die in vain.....I will continue to believe they sacrificed for our freedoms....our constitution....our rights and not the rights of some who wish to do harm to those sacred sentiments!

I Do Not Know poem for military sacrafice.jpg

 

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The GOPerLords have been working to protect their Nazi-KKK-White Supremacist membership inside the military for decades under the guise of personal liberty.

 

Long past time to return to the century-old tradition that being in the Military was a decision to temporarily sacrifice some of your personal liberties in order to protect Liberty itself.

 

This reduced level of "First Amendment rights" for members of the Military has been recognized and upheld by SCOTUS since our fuunding as a Nation, most recently in 1974. Back during 'Nam, membership in Hells Angles was sufficient cause to deny re-enlistment for just one examply. Likewise, there's pretty strict controls on where their MILITARY weapons are stored on base.

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https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/09/12/lawmakers-want-closer-tracking-of-wh...

 

Lawmakers want closer tracking of white supremacy, Nazi sympathizers in the military

 

 

Senate appropriators included in their $695 billion defense spending plan for fiscal 2020 a mandate for military officials to more closely track and respond to incidents of white supremacy and pro-Nazi activity in the ranks, which lawmakers have labeled a growing concern for the services.

 

The provision would require the defense secretary to submit a report to Congress on any violations regarding Defense Department policies on “white supremacist, neo-Nazi, terrorist, gang and other extremist affiliations by service members and recruits.”

 

It echoes similar language inserted into the House draft of the annual defense authorization bill earlier this year by Rep. Anthony Brown, D-Md. That legislation includes hundreds of policy priorities and changes. Including it in the appropriations bill carried extra significance because the spending legislation largely sticks to funding tables and financial decisions.

 

Current Defense Department rules mandate that “military personnel must reject active participation in criminal gangs … and in other organizations that advocate supremacist, extremist, or criminal gang doctrine.”

 

Earlier this year, in response to an inquiry from Brown, department officials said that all new recruits undergo background investigations to search for any ties to extremist groups and that all service members are reminded of those rules on a regular basis.

 

Despite that, about 22 percent of service members who participated in the fall 2018 Military Times poll said they have seen signs of white nationalism or racist ideology within the armed forces. Among non-white service members in the poll, more than half reported witnessing incidents of racism and racist ideology.

 

The issue of extremism in the ranks gained closer scrutiny earlier this year after the arrest of Coast Guard Lt. Christopher Hasson, a former active-duty Marine and Army Guardsman who was plotting a mass murder of political and media figures. Investigators found evidence after his arrest that he was a long-time white nationalist who held violently racist views even before his first enlistment in the military.

 

Earlier this month, Marine Corps Times published new details of a naval investigation into the enlistment and eventual dismissal of Marine Lance Cpl. Vasillios Pistolis, who for years had ties to racist and extremist groups. Despite that, he was able to join the service without any problems.

 

Those incidents have raised serious questions about the reliability and focus of military background checks.

 

If the language survives negotiations with House leadership — a likely scenario, now that both Democrats and Republicans on the Hill have offered public backing for the idea — defense officials would be required to issue an unclassified report to Congress on the issue of extremism in the ranks within six months of the spending bill’s final passage.

 

However, the fate of the spending bill remains uncertain. The legislation passed out of committee 16-15 on Thursday after a party-line vote, with Senate Democrats angry over Republican leaders’ decision to sideline an amendment designed to block President Donald Trump’s ability to transfer military funds to pay for his controversial southern border wall project.

 

House leaders have already said they are considering a budget extension later this month to avoid a partial government shutdown at the start of the new fiscal year (Oct. 1). That could push a final defense appropriations vote into late fall or early winter.

 

In addition to the white supremacist language, the $695 billion spending bill also includes a 3.1 percent pay raise for troops in 2019, in line with other congressional and White House plans for military salaries next year.

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