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WNY ?

 I hAVE HEARD TWO DIFFERENT JOURNALISTS AND HOST WHEN INTERVIEWING EITHER REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS AND ASKING IF THEY BELIEVE IN WHAT COHEN HAS STATED BECAUSE OF HIS PREVIOUS  NON TRUTH STATEMENT, NONE OF THEM HAS BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT WHAT COHEN STATED AND IS GOING TO JAIL FOR. HAS BEEN CORROBORATED BY THE NATIONAL INWUIRER.

WHY? DON'T THEY PUT THOSE TWO QUESTIONS TOGETHER?

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"I'll tell everyone what you did if you don't give me money" - is that not extortion?


No, it's not, because Daniels had already talked about it - IN 2011.

 

It was then that Cohen threatened to sue In Touch magazine if they ever published her interview detailing her affair with Trump.

 

And then in 2016 Trump and Cohen wanted to ensure she kept her mouth shut, so they offered her money if she'd sign the NDA. Then came the shell company, and the aliases, and the failure to report in-kind campaign contributions, and then 2 years of lies, until the guilty pleas started piling up.

 

But if you're so certain that Trump's got a case, call up the White House counsel (before any more of them resign) and tell them to pursue extortion charges against Daniels and McDougal.

 

That theory would mean that the President just decided to pay out all that money out of the goodness of his heart. I doubt you are going to accept the "goodness of his heart" theory.


You're correct, I don't accept it, as he has demonstrated there is no goodness in his heart.

 

Mueller is obligated to pursue and report any crimes he comes across. Cohen's case is all settled except for sentencing. Tell me, where in any of the briefs filed with the court in that case mention extortion? Pecker's immunity deal is done. Tell me, where in any of the briefs filed with the court in that case mention extortion?

 

You're like a little kid standing in the middle of the street pointing and yelling "Wolf! Wolf!" But when everyone comes running to see what you're pointing at, all it is is a pile of scat that was meant to stay covered up, but now it's covered with a bunch of Trump flies.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (11 pages of lies and growing)
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"I'll tell everyone what you did if you don't give me money" - is that not extortion?


No, it's not, because Daniels had already talked about it - IN 2011.

 

It was then that Cohen threatened to sue In Touch magazine if they ever published her interview detailing her affair with Trump.

 

And then in 2016 Trump and Cohen wanted to ensure she kept her mouth shut, so they offered her money if she'd sign the NDA. Then came the shell company, and the aliases, and the failure to report in-kind campaign contributions, and then 2 years of lies, until the guilty pleas started piling up.

 

But if you're so certain that Trump's got a case, call up the White House counsel (before any more of them resign) and tell them to pursue extortion charges against Daniels and McDougal.

 

That theory would mean that the President just decided to pay out all that money out of the goodness of his heart. I doubt you are going to accept the "goodness of his heart" theory.

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Funny thing about "extortion" - it can't happen to honest people. lil donny wasn't asked for money - he offered it, something an honest man would never have to do. So far, we only know about two examples of his violating campaign finance laws AND compounding the crimes by committing tax fraud as well.

 

The person (Cohen) donny paid to commit these crimes is already convicted and on his way to JAIL, and donny would be sharing the cell had not Putin stole the election so his puppetPOTUS could slither into the WhiteHouse.


Cohen was not convicted of paying off the extortionist. So, what connection do you see between him and President Trump in the context of this topic? Also, I do not believe Cohen has been convicted of "Russian collusion".

 

"lil donny wasn't asked for money - he offered it" - where did you get that?? Sounds like why DL moved to GA (made up).

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"I'll tell everyone what you did if you don't give me money" - is that not extortion?


No, it's not, because Daniels had already talked about it - IN 2011.

 

It was then that Cohen threatened to sue In Touch magazine if they ever published her interview detailing her affair with Trump.

 

And then in 2016 Trump and Cohen wanted to ensure she kept her mouth shut, so they offered her money if she'd sign the NDA. Then came the shell company, and the aliases, and the failure to report in-kind campaign contributions, and then 2 years of lies, until the guilty pleas started piling up.

 

But if you're so certain that Trump's got a case, call up the White House counsel (before any more of them resign) and tell them to pursue extortion charges against Daniels and McDougal.

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (11 pages of lies and growing)
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Funny thing about "extortion" - it can't happen to honest people. lil donny wasn't asked for money - he offered it, something an honest man would never have to do. So far, we only know about two examples of his violating campaign finance laws AND compounding the crimes by committing tax fraud as well.

 

The person (Cohen) donny paid to commit these crimes is already convicted and on his way to JAIL, and donny would be sharing the cell had not Putin stole the election so his puppetPOTUS could slither into the WhiteHouse.

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The purposely dense act ain't gonna work for Trump, either.

 

Paying off mistresses to influence the image of a political campaign, is considered an in-kind contribution. In-kind contributions MUST be reported. Trump, Cohen and Pecker conspired to keep the payments secret. Cohen and Pecker have pled guilty to conspiracy to commit fraud, and that Trump had prior knowledge of and participated in it.

 

The bottom line is if the person who actively seeks the office, whose duty it is to sign legislation to enact laws, also wants to plead ignorance of the law, then they shouldn't hold that office. Ever.

 

 Hey, I didn't bring up the bus thing so don't accuse me of "dense".

 

Now, back to the issue. Trump was subjected to an extortion attempt. To save his reputation, he said, "Pay her off" and provided the necessary money.

 

It appears that the extortionists should be subject to inquiry, not the victim.


 


The bus thing is a metaphor. My mistake for believing you could tell the difference. Everyone else did.

 

Now, back to the issue. It is hardly extortion when Trump and Cohen required a nondisclosure agreement - hint, that's a contract, not extortion - and also set up a shell company in Delaware to handle the payment so it didn't have to be reported.

 

If you'll recall, the NDA, which was never filed in court, also didn't use any real names. Further, Trump never signed it. And when Daniels sought and won a declaratory judgement voiding the NDA, it allowed Daniels to dish all she wanted, and eliminated any extortion claims.

 

Those are just the particulars on the Daniels case. Trump is learning you can't always buy your way out of trouble. Now, is it necessary to go into the McDougal case?

 

 


"I'll tell everyone what you did if you don't give me money" - is that not extortion?

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@rk9152 wrote:

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The purposely dense act ain't gonna work for Trump, either.

 

Paying off mistresses to influence the image of a political campaign, is considered an in-kind contribution. In-kind contributions MUST be reported. Trump, Cohen and Pecker conspired to keep the payments secret. Cohen and Pecker have pled guilty to conspiracy to commit fraud, and that Trump had prior knowledge of and participated in it.

 

The bottom line is if the person who actively seeks the office, whose duty it is to sign legislation to enact laws, also wants to plead ignorance of the law, then they shouldn't hold that office. Ever.

 

 Hey, I didn't bring up the bus thing so don't accuse me of "dense".

 

Now, back to the issue. Trump was subjected to an extortion attempt. To save his reputation, he said, "Pay her off" and provided the necessary money.

 

It appears that the extortionists should be subject to inquiry, not the victim.


 


The bus thing is a metaphor. My mistake for believing you could tell the difference. Everyone else did.

 

Now, back to the issue. It is hardly extortion when Trump and Cohen required a nondisclosure agreement - hint, that's a contract, not extortion - and also set up a shell company in Delaware to handle the payment so it didn't have to be reported.

 

If you'll recall, the NDA, which was never filed in court, also didn't use any real names. Further, Trump never signed it. And when Daniels sought and won a declaratory judgement voiding the NDA, it allowed Daniels to dish all she wanted, and eliminated any extortion claims.

 

Those are just the particulars on the Daniels case. Trump is learning you can't always buy your way out of trouble. Now, is it necessary to go into the McDougal case?

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (11 pages of lies and growing)
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Total nonsense. Campaigns involve travel, so riding a bus COULD qualify as a legitimate expense.

 

Paying $150,000 to a friendly media outlet to pass the money to an individual and kill a story that is damaging to a candidate is a violation of campaign finance laws and involved tax fraud for the way in which Der Trumper reported the transaction to the IRS. Court records suggest National Enquirer had been doing this for Der Trumper since 2014, so the money ($286,000 thus far identified) to Stormy and the Playmate are just the tip of an iceberg of crimes committed by Individual 1.

 

JAIL FOR THE TRUMPS!


Did you bother to read the post that the "bus" was about?

 

Do you suppose that the porn star and the bunny were involved in "Russian collusion"? Or maybe there are just involved in the "Get Trump by whatever means necessary" collusion.


Do you imagine ANY investigation ignores crimes it uncovers on the grounds it was something they weren't looking for? Der Trumper's web of criminality is so vast and interconnected it is impossible to separate the conspiracy with a hostile foreign power (Russia) to steal the election by deceiving the voting public with the other crimes he committed to steal the election by deceiving the voting public, or his tax evasion and frauds, which seem to be numerous and felonious.

 

What you try and sell as "get Trump by any means possible" is really "prosecute all the criminals you discover", which, because lil donny is crooked as a corkscrew, can seem to involve him more than one might expect if he were ever honest. He's not, never was, never will be so get used to people exposing more and more criminal activity by your puppetPOTUS.


A question - "Do you imagine ANY investigation ignores crimes it uncovers on the grounds it was something they weren't looking for?" - Have you seen anything about the extortionists being prosecuted? I think that aswers your question.

 

And then a bunch of rambling about "web of criminality" and something about some criminal conspiracy to......"Well .......to do something".

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The purposely dense act ain't gonna work for Trump, either.

 

Paying off mistresses to influence the image of a political campaign, is considered an in-kind contribution. In-kind contributions MUST be reported. Trump, Cohen and Pecker conspired to keep the payments secret. Cohen and Pecker have pled guilty to conspiracy to commit fraud, and that Trump had prior knowledge of and participated in it.

 

The bottom line is if the person who actively seeks the office, whose duty it is to sign legislation to enact laws, also wants to plead ignorance of the law, then they shouldn't hold that office. Ever.

 

 Hey, I didn't bring up the bus thing so don't accuse me of "dense".

 

Now, back to the issue. Trump was subjected to an extortion attempt. To save his reputation, he said, "Pay her off" and provided the necessary money.

 

It appears that the extortionists should be subject to inquiry, not the victim.


 

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