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President Trump was not running in 2014 so could not have broken any campaign laws. In 2016 he arranged to have the extortionists paid off with his own money - no law broken there. 

 


No duh, rk. Nobody said he did break a law in 2014. A person can talk about breaking the law, but can't be charged until they do (unless they're making threats). You seriously didn't know that? Wow. Since you didn't know that, it explains why you get other legal matters wrong as well. The documents for Cohen and Pecker state that THE CONSPIRACY TO BREAK THE LAW WAS HATCHED IN 2014. You also claiming that Pecker is lying? Pathetic.

 

Funny how you keep claiming the serial adulterer was extorted. Pity the facts, let alone the law, don't support your wild fantasies. And by the way, not reporting in-kind contributions is breaking the law, and so is the conspiracy to keep the payments secret.

 

What else ya got?

 

Logic and common sense.

 

Since he supposedly violated campaign rules, how could he possibly hatch a plan to violate campaign law in 2014?


Logic and common sense, eh? Then how come you can't read the sentencing documents for yourself. How come you can't familiarize yourself with the charges, and how the law applies to them, before commenting about something you clearly know nothing about. The purposely dense act isn't gonna work for Trump, either.

 

Only in republican world would a bunch of millionaires plea guilty, courts accepts those guilty pleas, those millionaires are sentenced for crimes they admit to committing, yet Trump's sycophants still insist nobody broke the law. Pathetic!

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (11 pages of lies and growing)
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You seem to be making stuff up again. Paying someone off or making any kind of a business and/or fiscal arrangement to prevent information from being revealed is giving in to extortion.

 

Now, you can name all the people involved you want but the bottom line is - they had an embarrassing story to tell and were paid not to.


Rk,, are you sure you are not copying Rudy Juliani?  because you come up with the same or similar philosophy like Rudy.

Ok, Rk, it no one dies or gets robbed is not a crime.  LOL  LOL  LOL

The whole thing if you really believe your own post, which  I doubt because I know for a fact that you are an intelligent individual but at this time in your life unable to admit that you have blown it/

Trump is the scourge of the times. liar, crook,. does not even know when he is doing things that are above the law, insults like  a  mobster, and puts this country in the most horrible place that it has ever been

I doubt that the tea party today would actually have no trouble with Trump and his tweets. unless they have forgotten the moral standards that they always seem to tell us about.

 

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President Trump was not running in 2014 so could not have broken any campaign laws. In 2016 he arranged to have the extortionists paid off with his own money - no law broken there. 

 


No duh, rk. Nobody said he did break a law in 2014. A person can talk about breaking the law, but can't be charged until they do (unless they're making threats). You seriously didn't know that? Wow. Since you didn't know that, it explains why you get other legal matters wrong as well. The documents for Cohen and Pecker state that THE CONSPIRACY TO BREAK THE LAW WAS HATCHED IN 2014. You also claiming that Pecker is lying? Pathetic.

 

Funny how you keep claiming the serial adulterer was extorted. Pity the facts, let alone the law, don't support your wild fantasies. And by the way, not reporting in-kind contributions is breaking the law, and so is the conspiracy to keep the payments secret.

 

What else ya got?

 

Logic and common sense.

 

Since he supposedly violated campaign rules, how could he possibly hatch a plan to violate campaign law in 2014?


I understand your confusion - Der Trumper has been caught committing SOOOO many felony crimes in the last 2 years, it's difficult to keep them straight. Trump ordered Cohen to find a way to silence Daniels back in 2014 so his romp with the porn star would not become a big deal if he decided to run for President. So what he has been implicated in as an unindicted co-conspirator in the violation of campaign finance laws and tax laws when he was running for President had its origin back in 2014.

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Isn't it just adorable, the klatch has decided to get together and harrumph about other posters and swap kudoes.

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Forget what you think I think and deal with this - "Pay me money or I will tell everyone what we did" - is that not extortion?


Neither woman asked Der Trumper for money, both had a story to sell, lil donny knew it, and ordered his personal lawyer (Cohen) to pay whatever it took to silence them until after the election. Trumps buddy at National Enquirer OFFERED the playmate money FOR HER STORY, and had her sign an agreement that NE would have EXCLUSIVE rights to the story, AND THEN NEVER PUBLISHED IT. They confessed to felony crimes associated with their participation in Trumps crimes.

 

The puppetPOTUS's action was totally to prevent damage to his Presidential campaign, he used campaign money, he lied about the transactions, he got caught and the prosecutors have SOOO much evidence of his total criminal involvement they included him as an "unindicted co-conspirator" as "Individual 1" who they also noted "ran a successful campaign for President in 2016".

 

Prosecutors don't do that UNLESS they have rock solid evidence the one named committed the crimes. This happened when Nixon was named "unindicted co-conspirator" in Watergate crimes and when Republicans asked what evidence the prosecutor had to make such an accusation against the POTUS, the Special Prosecutor said ' no problem - send me a subpoena for the information.

 

The GOPers did, and received a literal truck load of evidence convicting Nixon that had not yet been made public. In Trumpers case, the EVIDENCE IS ALREADY OUT THERE - TONS ON IT. But not ALL of it - there's no doubt additional carloads of evidence that Mueller has uncovered but NOT released.


You insist on reading minds, declaring intentions, claiming knowledge you could not have. That makes it impossible to discuss.

 

It's funny you brought up Nixon - 18 minutes of tape vs thousands of emails (Clinton, Lerner, Strzok, etc.). WHATABOUTISM is not an excuse for committing felonys. If Pecker was guilty of felony crime (he confessed that he WAS) then Der Trumper who was his accomplice in those crimes is also guilty. Same applies to the numerous other felonies Trump has been named as a co-conspirater.

 

It is the same as the priority that easily swings from "Russian collusion", "traitorous acts". and "betraying the nation" to campaign funding discovered by catching a lawyer having acquired NYC taxi medallions in questionable ways. Trumps central role in the Russian CONSPIRACY will require indicting Der Trumper, and Mueller is not going to do that until there's enough hard evidence to send lil' donny to jail.

 

More and more my original theory of Mueller being all about "Get Trump by any means necessary". Mueller was charged with finding out about Russian interference in the 2016 elections AND TO PROSECUTE ANY OTHER CRIMES HE MIGHT UNCOVER, which is what he's been doing with total success - every American he had indicted has been FOUND GUILTY.


 


Who was FOUND GUILTY????

 

As to WHATABOUTISMS - isn't it interesting that they are all real while your wild assertions about the President are - wild assertions.

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President Trump was not running in 2014 so could not have broken any campaign laws. In 2016 he arranged to have the extortionists paid off with his own money - no law broken there. 

 


No duh, rk. Nobody said he did break a law in 2014. A person can talk about breaking the law, but can't be charged until they do (unless they're making threats). You seriously didn't know that? Wow. Since you didn't know that, it explains why you get other legal matters wrong as well. The documents for Cohen and Pecker state that THE CONSPIRACY TO BREAK THE LAW WAS HATCHED IN 2014. You also claiming that Pecker is lying? Pathetic.

 

Funny how you keep claiming the serial adulterer was extorted. Pity the facts, let alone the law, don't support your wild fantasies. And by the way, not reporting in-kind contributions is breaking the law, and so is the conspiracy to keep the payments secret.

 

What else ya got?

 

Logic and common sense.

 

Since he supposedly violated campaign rules, how could he possibly hatch a plan to violate campaign law in 2014?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Olderscout66 wrote:

 


@rk9152 wrote:

Forget what you think I think and deal with this - "Pay me money or I will tell everyone what we did" - is that not extortion?


Neither woman asked Der Trumper for money, both had a story to sell, lil donny knew it, and ordered his personal lawyer (Cohen) to pay whatever it took to silence them until after the election. Trumps buddy at National Enquirer OFFERED the playmate money FOR HER STORY, and had her sign an agreement that NE would have EXCLUSIVE rights to the story, AND THEN NEVER PUBLISHED IT. They confessed to felony crimes associated with their participation in Trumps crimes.

 

The puppetPOTUS's action was totally to prevent damage to his Presidential campaign, he used campaign money, he lied about the transactions, he got caught and the prosecutors have SOOO much evidence of his total criminal involvement they included him as an "unindicted co-conspirator" as "Individual 1" who they also noted "ran a successful campaign for President in 2016".

 

Prosecutors don't do that UNLESS they have rock solid evidence the one named committed the crimes. This happened when Nixon was named "unindicted co-conspirator" in Watergate crimes and when Republicans asked what evidence the prosecutor had to make such an accusation against the POTUS, the Special Prosecutor said ' no problem - send me a subpoena for the information.

 

The GOPers did, and received a literal truck load of evidence convicting Nixon that had not yet been made public. In Trumpers case, the EVIDENCE IS ALREADY OUT THERE - TONS ON IT. But not ALL of it - there's no doubt additional carloads of evidence that Mueller has uncovered but NOT released.


You insist on reading minds, declaring intentions, claiming knowledge you could not have. That makes it impossible to discuss.

 

It's funny you brought up Nixon - 18 minutes of tape vs thousands of emails (Clinton, Lerner, Strzok, etc.). WHATABOUTISM is not an excuse for committing felonys. If Pecker was guilty of felony crime (he confessed that he WAS) then Der Trumper who was his accomplice in those crimes is also guilty. Same applies to the numerous other felonies Trump has been named as a co-conspirater.

 

It is the same as the priority that easily swings from "Russian collusion", "traitorous acts". and "betraying the nation" to campaign funding discovered by catching a lawyer having acquired NYC taxi medallions in questionable ways. Trumps central role in the Russian CONSPIRACY will require indicting Der Trumper, and Mueller is not going to do that until there's enough hard evidence to send lil' donny to jail.

 

More and more my original theory of Mueller being all about "Get Trump by any means necessary". Mueller was charged with finding out about Russian interference in the 2016 elections AND TO PROSECUTE ANY OTHER CRIMES HE MIGHT UNCOVER, which is what he's been doing with total success - every American he had indicted has been FOUND GUILTY.


 

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CriticalThinking:  Isn't it fascinating to watch Trump Cult members locked into their alternate reality where they repeatedly deny FACTS obvious to anyone in touch with the real world.

 

 

That's exactly what they are.....locked into their alternate reality. Accepting facts would be like sticking a pin in a balloon.

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Funny how you keep claiming the serial adulterer was extorted. Pity the facts, let alone the law, don't support your wild fantasies.

 

 

It's his standard MO: make stuff up that justifies his opinion. Facts are simply an annoyance.

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President Trump was not running in 2014 so could not have broken any campaign laws. In 2016 he arranged to have the extortionists paid off with his own money - no law broken there. 

 


No duh, rk. Nobody said he did break a law in 2014. A person can talk about breaking the law, but can't be charged until they do (unless they're making threats). You seriously didn't know that? Wow. Since you didn't know that, it explains why you get other legal matters wrong as well. The documents for Cohen and Pecker state that THE CONSPIRACY TO BREAK THE LAW WAS HATCHED IN 2014. You also claiming that Pecker is lying? Pathetic.

 

Funny how you keep claiming the serial adulterer was extorted. Pity the facts, let alone the law, don't support your wild fantasies. And by the way, not reporting in-kind contributions is breaking the law, and so is the conspiracy to keep the payments secret.

 

What else ya got?

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ (11 pages of lies and growing)
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