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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

Pelosi has gotten a bad rap here mainly because she's be(sic) demonized by Conservatives and Fox who prefers to attack their adversary and make up lies, just as they do about anyone they disagree with.  Even some Democrats have been hating on her for not being Liberal enough.....wrong stragey(sic) IMO.  Most in the country aren't extremists and reside much closer to the Center.....baby steps is(sic) much more successful. Conservatives tried to do far too much trying to make the country more Conservative and they had their rears handed to them at the polls.  Libs should learn something with the results of the past election.

 

She's a moderate Democrat and has been very succesful as the Democratic leader.


 

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The political will and intent of the majority of American Citizens has elected "lefties" to the House of Representatives and thrown out the corrupt right wing liars.

All over the nation, in state and local races, the majority in the electorate has voted for bisexuals, homosexuals, Muslims, and people that are firmly opposed to the no longer acceptable trump/republican un-American fraud, lying and dishonesty of the right...

 

The political pendulum swings back and forth - but every time - for the last thousand plus years - when it swings to the left - it swings noticeably further left - and less far right when it goes to the right...  

Gottfried von Berlichingen said it 500 years ago - now it is entirely appropriate and deserved for tRump...
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Pelosi has gotten a bad rap here mainly because she's be demonized by Conservatives and Fox who prefers to attack their adversary and make up lies, just as they do about anyone they disagree with.  Even some Democrats have been hating on her for not being Liberal enough.....wrong stragey IMO.  Most in the country aren't extremists and reside much closer to the Center.....baby steps is much more successful. Conservatives tried to do far too much trying to make the country more Conservative and they had their rears handed to them at the polls.  Libs should learn something with the results of the past election.

 

She's a moderate Democrat and has been very succesful as the Democratic leader.


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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@ChasKy53 wrote:

Thank you for the topic, it is pertinent and current to politics today.  I also think that Pelosi has done a decent job as a leader.  However, I think it is time for her to let go and allow the Party to change and evolve to something more representative of the democratic (and Independent) electorate.  The electorate is moving to the left, towards the progressive side. Pelosi is entrenched and will not get on board with the change that has already started. We need a Speaker of the House that will embrace the progressives in the Party and help bring about the things that progressives in the electorate desire. Most of the nation is in favor of:

 

Universal Single Payer Health Care

 

Raising taxes back up on the wealthiest in our nation and giving breaks to the middle clcepotass and below

 

Deep and meaningful campaign finance reform including overturning Citizens United

 

Protect Social Security and other safety nets.

 

Reasonable and compassionate immigration reform


Good points, Chas.  It's worthy to note that none of the above except for Universal Healthcare, are "leftest" positions.....they are all moderate and Centrist positions that most can agree.


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I think Pelosi has done a much better job advancing the democratic agenda than Chuck Schumer has over in the Senate. 

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I truly believe that she has been an outstanding speaker. no question about it.

 

Trump agrees.

 

Trump Endorses Pelosi for House Speaker of the House

 

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Trump called Nancy Pelosi “tough” and “smart,” “I like her"

 

“She deserves this victory, she has earned it,” he tweeted.

 

“I can get Nancy Pelosi as many votes as she wants in order for her to be Speaker of the House,” Trump tweeted.

 

https://nypost.com/2018/11/18/trump-endorses-pelosi-for-house-speaker-can-you-believe-it/

 

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@rker321 - I get that. It was reported that she planned to take steps toward bringing on a possible successor. Politics doesn't operate like a business, and Congress follows a seniority based system, though anyone can announce as a candidate for Speaker and be elected. It's going to be the person that the D caucus deems most likely to succeed in facing the current challenges. Whatever they do, and whomever they choose, they should consider wisely.

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Again the biggest failure for Pelosi, is not having groomed her replacement. a person that could handle the Democrats but a new leader that would understand the challenges of a new generation.

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@ChasKy53 - That's a great list, and I do hope that House D's work on all those things over the next two years, regardless of what happens to the bills in the Senate. That is what will make or break their case for 2020, IMHO.

 

It was reported that campaign finance reform would be the first item on the agenda, and that it could be a bipartisan effort. Both sides have caught heat from voters over special interest monies, and the power of lobbyists to buy votes in Congress. They do plan to take up health care afterwards.

 

@rker321 - You are correct, these are things that both parties should be inclined to work on, should be being the operative phrase. While there is some common ground on some issues, there are still divides to be overcome.

 

As a reminder, SS and Medicare were the top target items R's had planned to slash, to reduce their self-created spiraling deficits (aka tax cuts for the 1%-ers), had they remained in control of the House. The coming budget battles will be significant as the deficit must be addressed. Trump has already signaled a shut down is possible, and he plans to blame the D's, of course. There are going to be tough battles with Trump and R's over cuts and spending that will require a skillful and tough, seasoned politician. Whether you like Pelosi or not, she does know how to handle these matters. If she is to be replaced, D's better come up with a good one.

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rker321 wrote:

Wow Chasky,  what you have posted as the desire of the Progressives, is what I think that all Parties should be working on. Just not only the Democrats.

Those are important issues for the Country, not for any individual Party.

They are not leftists issues, they are what this country needs. and both parties should be working toweard to.


One thing is for certain .............. voting Republicans into office will bring none of those things about.


You are correct. because the present Republicans have ceased to be Republicans and have now embraced the Trump Party as their Party.

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