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@Richvawrote:

@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:

Very hilarious. Read step 1 above - "one is usually accused of a specific crime".

 

Of course in Trump's case, the left is looking for the crime to charge him with. That, my friend, is a "fishing expeditions".  Still laughing ? I assume you are.


Actually, no one on the left has suggested any crimes Trump might be charged with. They only want to see the investigation proceed unhindered by political implications. Trump wants to see the investigation stopped and is doing all he can to make that happen. Kind of makes you wonder about his motives though. 


I also want the investigation to continue. As of yet, nothing has caught up Trump but continued investigation might just snare Obama and Hillary!

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@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:

@CriticalThinkingwrote:

Let me help clarify NH's description of the Mueller Investigation as a "fishing expedition" (in his words). At least he didn't use Trump's "Witch Hunt" term. Thank you NH, I'm so sick of that expression.

  • Mueller's fishing expedition has already resulted in numerous Trump Campaign/Administration indictments
  • Then we have the bizarre behavior of a President who:
  • has never said one negative word about Putin
  • Despite the reports of all our intelligence agencies, Trump refused to acknowledge Russian interference in the 2016 election.
  • Trump allowed only a Russian reporter and photographer in the Oval Office, while banning U.S. reporters when he met with the Russian Ambassador.
  • Despite a 98-2 Senate vote and overwhelming support in the House to impose sanctions against Russia, Trump declined to implement those sanctions. WHY?
  • Finally, Trump refuses to defend America against Russian cyber attacks.

You see NH, if Trump wasn't guilty of doing something serious, he wouldn't be acting as described above. And he wouldn't have hired people in top level positions, who were secretly working for foreign governments.


In this country, one is usually accused of a specific crime, charged with that crime, judged on that crime, and punished (or vindicated) for that crime. We don't assign a prosecutor and investigatory committee to "look into" IF you did something wrong (fishing expedition) or as some have called "witch hunt".


They are accused of a crime after the investigation has taken place, and sometimes the investigation proves the person did nothing wrong and they are not accused of a crime. That is what is happening here, and as the investigations are completed we see people being charged, and some pleading guilty. When everything is completed you can use fishing or witch hunt, until then it is called obstruction. Why are you afraid it will land on Trump? Well Trump was brought into court quite a few times over his lifetime. How about  the NYC Hotel deal he had with the City. He kept 2 sets of books and had to pay the city a few million after the court case. How about the millions he had to pay to the students of the fake Trump Univ. for fraud, How about all the suits from people who purchased apts. in his buildings. How about the suit in Mexico for the building he took money from people and never built. His 5 bankruptcies where he came out ok while all the others lost big time, how about the small business owner he forced in bankruptcy who killed himself. We could go on and on. We will see if there is any crime here with Trump in it at the end.

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@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:

Very hilarious. Read step 1 above - "one is usually accused of a specific crime".

 

Of course in Trump's case, the left is looking for the crime to charge him with. That, my friend, is a "fishing expeditions".  Still laughing ? I assume you are.


Actually, no one on the left has suggested any crimes Trump might be charged with. They only want to see the investigation proceed unhindered by political implications. Trump wants to see the investigation stopped and is doing all he can to make that happen. Kind of makes you wonder about his motives though. 

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@Panjandromwrote:

NOTHAPPENING:  In this country, one is usually accused of a specific crime, charged with that crime, judged on that crime, and punished (or vindicated) for that crime. We don't assign a prosecutor and investigatory committee to "look into" IF you did something wrong (fishing expedition) or as some have called "witch hunt".

 

 

Hilarious stuff. Do you possibly think Ken Starr's leap from investigating Whitewater to a stained Blue dresswas an illegitimate witchunt too? Of course you don't.


Very hilarious. Read step 1 above - "one is usually accused of a specific crime".

 

Of course in Trump's case, the left is looking for the crime to charge him with. That, my friend, is a "fishing expeditions".  Still laughing ? I assume you are.

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NOTHAPPENING:  In this country, one is usually accused of a specific crime, charged with that crime, judged on that crime, and punished (or vindicated) for that crime. We don't assign a prosecutor and investigatory committee to "look into" IF you did something wrong (fishing expedition) or as some have called "witch hunt".

 

 

Hilarious stuff. Do you possibly think Ken Starr's leap from investigating Whitewater to a stained Blue dresswas an illegitimate witchunt too? Of course you don't.

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@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:

@CriticalThinkingwrote:

CNN, one of the world's great news organizations, reported on the breakdown of Mueller's Legal Team (7 lawyers). They are divided into 6 categories of experience and expertise.

  • Financial Crimes
  • Political Corruption
  • National Security
  • Organized Crime
  • Cyber Crime
  • Appellate Law

I'm sure members of the Trump Cult are scratching their heads as they ask where are the collusion experts? They are so dumb. Trump and Fox keeps talking about collusion, but they don't tell their blindly loyal followers there is no federal law called "collusion". Of course Trump's minions never take the time to research anything, so they still believe Mueller is investigating that non-existing charge.

Mueller is NOT investigating "collusion" but he is investigating Trump to discover if he violated ANYTHING he ever did (commonly called a "fishing expedition"). How would you like to be investigated to see IF you ever did anything wrong (not that you did)?


Mueller IS investigating the Russian actions to interfer with the 2016 elections AND all other criminal activity that shows up while looking for "the Russia connection". That's what Special Prosecutors do - look for criminal activity.

 

Sometimes they look for YEARS and find NOTHING CRIMINAL, like the investigations of Hillary and Bill.

 

But SOMETIMES, like NOW, they find some new crime almost every day! Conspiracy Against the United States, Money Laundrying, Tax evasion, Lying to Federal investigators, and so far there's THREE top Trumpettes PLEADING GUILTY and agreeing to cooperate fully with Muellers team in exchange for lighter sentences.

 

All that in EIGHT MONTHS, while NRAGOP has been persecuting the Clintons for TWENTY-FOUR YEARS (since August 1994) and FOUND NOTHING CRIMINAL! YEAH, NOTHING - the Republican Controlled Senate found him INNOCENT!

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@CriticalThinkingwrote:

CNN, one of the world's great news organizations, reported on the breakdown of Mueller's Legal Team (7 lawyers). They are divided into 6 categories of experience and expertise.

  • Financial Crimes
  • Political Corruption
  • National Security
  • Organized Crime
  • Cyber Crime
  • Appellate Law

I'm sure members of the Trump Cult are scratching their heads as they ask where are the collusion experts? They are so dumb. Trump and Fox keeps talking about collusion, but they don't tell their blindly loyal followers there is no federal law called "collusion". Of course Trump's minions never take the time to research anything, so they still believe Mueller is investigating that non-existing charge.


Ah, it's like watching the legal version of the Super Bowl or the Olympics.    Mueller's got one heck of a dream team.     

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Jim asked, "Just to clarify, you are of the opinion that his entire team is nonpartisan right."

 

Jim doesn't get it. Everyone has a bias or biases. Professionals put them aside and do their job. 

 

Look at the 9 Hillary investigations carried out by heavily biased Republican members of Congress, most of whom despised Hillary. Yet despite their biases against Hillary, they could never find one crime to charge her.

 

Wake up Jim. Investigators do not make up crimes. They can discover a crime someone committed, but they don't make them up out of thin air. Federal prosecutors have to prove their cases beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law and that requires EVIDENCE.

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@jimc91wrote:

What is more interesting is to look at the people “selected” within those categories and look at their resumes, past actions along with the political donations they have made...

 

 

 


And you know everything . . . You know them all by name? You have their resumes? You've seen their contribution checks? Guess you saw for whom they voted, also.  Oh tell us then . . . LOL

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@CriticalThinkingwrote:

Not really Jim, that's only interesting to someone who believes every radical right wing political conspiracy known to man.

 

For those who believe in the rule of law and due process, the make up of Mueller's Legal Team is fascinating.


Just to clarify, you are of the opinion that his entire team is nonpartisan right?

 

 

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