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your post, with its demonstration of gun smuggling enabling murder, is odd. you said what the problem is, but refuse to acknowledge it.


So what's wrong with what I said?  Guns are in ample supply in Chicago, mostly hand guns, inspite of laws.  There are guns available in Houston, again mostly hand guns used in crimes. The same around the country.  They were stolen, smuggled from other states, etc.

 

What have I refused to acknowledge?  If any type of gun is banned, there will be a supply where there is a demand.  Simple economics.


Actually, that has not been the case. In Australia they banned such guns and the street price of an AK-47 rose to $10,000. In America, they are $500 or less. Banning guns in Chicago while allowing unrestricted sales an hour's drive away would seem to be counter productive. The only reasonable ban would be nationwide. 


Heroin is banned throughout the U.S. yet widely available in Chicago. Your "ban" would work the same way!

 

Heroin and other opioids is widely available everywhere, including rural West Va.  Just like guns.  And people die from both.


 


True!

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@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:


Heroin is banned throughout the U.S. yet widely available in Chicago. Your "ban" would work the same way!


More of the knee-jerk comments by the anti-gun crowd.  I don't own guns and don't allow them on my property, but I have no objections to responsible ownership by others.  I do have a problem with those who attempt to force their ideas on others.  That is the pathway for dictatorships and losing constitutional freedoms.

 

And in addressing the topics blaming Veterans, I was just reading this reader's comment on a media site in response to the shooting in California with restrictive gun control:

 

"It strikes me that in previous generations, soldiers returning from war also had PTSD. They received no treatment for their condition, and they certainly didn't receive the best treatment from VA centers, yet they didn't go crazy and try to shoot everyone when they felt wronged. Why are people today going on these killing rampages?"

 

Also remember the last two major shootings wasn't by vets but by young people who managed to get their hands on guns, but thinking back as far as the Second World War onward I can't recall hearing of mass shootings by Veterans except in isolated cases. 

 

The last mass shooting in Florida had so many red flags yet no one is willing to fix the real problem(s). Many reports of problems with this kid (Cruz) who had police visits some 30+ times. He posted on line that he was going to be the next school shooter. FBI got several tips informing of future problems. He was getting bullied. Police chief who told police "stand down" and wait for SWAT.

 

I just question if any of the real problems will be looked at or ever fixed?



@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:

@TxGrandpa2wrote:

@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:


Heroin is banned throughout the U.S. yet widely available in Chicago. Your "ban" would work the same way!


More of the knee-jerk comments by the anti-gun crowd.  I don't own guns and don't allow them on my property, but I have no objections to responsible ownership by others.  I do have a problem with those who attempt to force their ideas on others.  That is the pathway for dictatorships and losing constitutional freedoms.

 

And in addressing the topics blaming Veterans, I was just reading this reader's comment on a media site in response to the shooting in California with restrictive gun control:

 

"It strikes me that in previous generations, soldiers returning from war also had PTSD. They received no treatment for their condition, and they certainly didn't receive the best treatment from VA centers, yet they didn't go crazy and try to shoot everyone when they felt wronged. Why are people today going on these killing rampages?"

 

Also remember the last two major shootings wasn't by vets but by young people who managed to get their hands on guns, but thinking back as far as the Second World War onward I can't recall hearing of mass shootings by Veterans except in isolated cases. 

 

The last mass shooting in Florida had so many red flags yet no one is willing to fix the real problem(s). Many reports of problems with this kid (Cruz) who had police visits some 30+ times. He posted on line that he was going to be the next school shooter. FBI got several tips informing of future problems. He was getting bullied. Police chief who told police "stand down" and wait for SWAT.

 

I just question if any of the real problems will be looked at or ever fixed?


Yes it did and the biggest one was that Cruz was a member of the Far Right. He even had the Nazi symbol in his body art. Get rid of the far right and you will end most of this. That will also cut down the number of mentally ill people as all the far right fit in to that category. Look at our President.


If we do as you suggested (cut down on the mentally ill), that would mean wiping out most liberals. Do you really mean that?


Looks like the new Trump policy of mass executions on order of the Dictator is being passed down to the followers. Red the story in the press I posted about. Trump wants to impose the Death penalty by Executive Order and here is the first sign we see from the followers that they approve of killing Americans who oppose the Dictator. WAKE UP PEOPLE. GERMANY OF THE 1930 IS ARRIVING. THEY HAD HITLER WE HAVE TRUMP.


So, I see you approve of wiping out all mentally ill people (that would be all liberals). Trump is the savior.


Notice how fast and furious they come back  on the story I posted about in this mornings paper. The followers are just like the Brown shirts covering for what their Dictator wants to do. Lets see if thinking people are fooled by it. You post is typical right wing diversion and proves the experts correct about the Right Wing. Our Dicator counts on that.

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@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:

@Richvawrote:

@TxGrandpa2wrote:

@MIsekerwrote:


your post, with its demonstration of gun smuggling enabling murder, is odd. you said what the problem is, but refuse to acknowledge it.


So what's wrong with what I said?  Guns are in ample supply in Chicago, mostly hand guns, inspite of laws.  There are guns available in Houston, again mostly hand guns used in crimes. The same around the country.  They were stolen, smuggled from other states, etc.

 

What have I refused to acknowledge?  If any type of gun is banned, there will be a supply where there is a demand.  Simple economics.


Actually, that has not been the case. In Australia they banned such guns and the street price of an AK-47 rose to $10,000. In America, they are $500 or less. Banning guns in Chicago while allowing unrestricted sales an hour's drive away would seem to be counter productive. The only reasonable ban would be nationwide. 


Heroin is banned throughout the U.S. yet widely available in Chicago. Your "ban" would work the same way!

 

Heroin and other opioids are widely available everywhere, including rural West Va.  Just like guns.  And people die from both.


 


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WAKE UP PEOPLE. GERMANY OF THE 1930 IS ARRIVING.

Yes via the banning of guns.  And dictating via laws of social engineering that makes free enterprise a crime in who a business owner is required to serve.



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WAKE UP PEOPLE. GERMANY OF THE 1930 IS ARRIVING.

Yes via the banning of guns.  And dictating via laws of social engineering that makes free enterprise a crime in who a business owner is required to serve.


Like all good far right you try and change the subject. Where will you be as they parade the people on their way to the camp and death chambers. Will you be like the people of the town outside the camps. We did not know.

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@john258wrote:

@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:

@john258wrote:

@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:

@TxGrandpa2wrote:

@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:


Heroin is banned throughout the U.S. yet widely available in Chicago. Your "ban" would work the same way!


More of the knee-jerk comments by the anti-gun crowd.  I don't own guns and don't allow them on my property, but I have no objections to responsible ownership by others.  I do have a problem with those who attempt to force their ideas on others.  That is the pathway for dictatorships and losing constitutional freedoms.

 

And in addressing the topics blaming Veterans, I was just reading this reader's comment on a media site in response to the shooting in California with restrictive gun control:

 

"It strikes me that in previous generations, soldiers returning from war also had PTSD. They received no treatment for their condition, and they certainly didn't receive the best treatment from VA centers, yet they didn't go crazy and try to shoot everyone when they felt wronged. Why are people today going on these killing rampages?"

 

Also remember the last two major shootings wasn't by vets but by young people who managed to get their hands on guns, but thinking back as far as the Second World War onward I can't recall hearing of mass shootings by Veterans except in isolated cases. 

 

The last mass shooting in Florida had so many red flags yet no one is willing to fix the real problem(s). Many reports of problems with this kid (Cruz) who had police visits some 30+ times. He posted on line that he was going to be the next school shooter. FBI got several tips informing of future problems. He was getting bullied. Police chief who told police "stand down" and wait for SWAT.

 

I just question if any of the real problems will be looked at or ever fixed?



@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:

@TxGrandpa2wrote:

@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:


Heroin is banned throughout the U.S. yet widely available in Chicago. Your "ban" would work the same way!


More of the knee-jerk comments by the anti-gun crowd.  I don't own guns and don't allow them on my property, but I have no objections to responsible ownership by others.  I do have a problem with those who attempt to force their ideas on others.  That is the pathway for dictatorships and losing constitutional freedoms.

 

And in addressing the topics blaming Veterans, I was just reading this reader's comment on a media site in response to the shooting in California with restrictive gun control:

 

"It strikes me that in previous generations, soldiers returning from war also had PTSD. They received no treatment for their condition, and they certainly didn't receive the best treatment from VA centers, yet they didn't go crazy and try to shoot everyone when they felt wronged. Why are people today going on these killing rampages?"

 

Also remember the last two major shootings wasn't by vets but by young people who managed to get their hands on guns, but thinking back as far as the Second World War onward I can't recall hearing of mass shootings by Veterans except in isolated cases. 

 

The last mass shooting in Florida had so many red flags yet no one is willing to fix the real problem(s). Many reports of problems with this kid (Cruz) who had police visits some 30+ times. He posted on line that he was going to be the next school shooter. FBI got several tips informing of future problems. He was getting bullied. Police chief who told police "stand down" and wait for SWAT.

 

I just question if any of the real problems will be looked at or ever fixed?


Yes it did and the biggest one was that Cruz was a member of the Far Right. He even had the Nazi symbol in his body art. Get rid of the far right and you will end most of this. That will also cut down the number of mentally ill people as all the far right fit in to that category. Look at our President.


If we do as you suggested (cut down on the mentally ill), that would mean wiping out most liberals. Do you really mean that?


Looks like the new Trump policy of mass executions on order of the Dictator is being passed down to the followers. Red the story in the press I posted about. Trump wants to impose the Death penalty by Executive Order and here is the first sign we see from the followers that they approve of killing Americans who oppose the Dictator. WAKE UP PEOPLE. GERMANY OF THE 1930 IS ARRIVING. THEY HAD HITLER WE HAVE TRUMP.


So, I see you approve of wiping out all mentally ill people (that would be all liberals). Trump is the savior.

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WAKE UP PEOPLE. GERMANY OF THE 1930 IS ARRIVING.

Yes via the banning of guns.  And dictating via laws of social engineering that makes free enterprise a crime in who a business owner is required to serve.

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If we do as you suggested (cut down on the mentally ill), that would mean wiping out most liberals. Do you really mean that?


Hadn't thought about that... but it would be a consideration.



@TxGrandpa2wrote:

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If we do as you suggested (cut down on the mentally ill), that would mean wiping out most liberals. Do you really mean that?


Hadn't thought about that... but it would be a consideration.


So you approve of the death penalty by Executive Order just as all Dictator's do, and you approve of the way Hitler used it. No wounder you support the removing of people (Kids) from the US who lived here all their lives, and it looks like you would support sending all the war brides out of the country to.

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@john258wrote:

@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:

@TxGrandpa2wrote:

@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:


Heroin is banned throughout the U.S. yet widely available in Chicago. Your "ban" would work the same way!


More of the knee-jerk comments by the anti-gun crowd.  I don't own guns and don't allow them on my property, but I have no objections to responsible ownership by others.  I do have a problem with those who attempt to force their ideas on others.  That is the pathway for dictatorships and losing constitutional freedoms.

 

And in addressing the topics blaming Veterans, I was just reading this reader's comment on a media site in response to the shooting in California with restrictive gun control:

 

"It strikes me that in previous generations, soldiers returning from war also had PTSD. They received no treatment for their condition, and they certainly didn't receive the best treatment from VA centers, yet they didn't go crazy and try to shoot everyone when they felt wronged. Why are people today going on these killing rampages?"

 

Also remember the last two major shootings wasn't by vets but by young people who managed to get their hands on guns, but thinking back as far as the Second World War onward I can't recall hearing of mass shootings by Veterans except in isolated cases. 

 

The last mass shooting in Florida had so many red flags yet no one is willing to fix the real problem(s). Many reports of problems with this kid (Cruz) who had police visits some 30+ times. He posted on line that he was going to be the next school shooter. FBI got several tips informing of future problems. He was getting bullied. Police chief who told police "stand down" and wait for SWAT.

 

I just question if any of the real problems will be looked at or ever fixed?



@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:

@TxGrandpa2wrote:

@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:


Heroin is banned throughout the U.S. yet widely available in Chicago. Your "ban" would work the same way!


More of the knee-jerk comments by the anti-gun crowd.  I don't own guns and don't allow them on my property, but I have no objections to responsible ownership by others.  I do have a problem with those who attempt to force their ideas on others.  That is the pathway for dictatorships and losing constitutional freedoms.

 

And in addressing the topics blaming Veterans, I was just reading this reader's comment on a media site in response to the shooting in California with restrictive gun control:

 

"It strikes me that in previous generations, soldiers returning from war also had PTSD. They received no treatment for their condition, and they certainly didn't receive the best treatment from VA centers, yet they didn't go crazy and try to shoot everyone when they felt wronged. Why are people today going on these killing rampages?"

 

Also remember the last two major shootings wasn't by vets but by young people who managed to get their hands on guns, but thinking back as far as the Second World War onward I can't recall hearing of mass shootings by Veterans except in isolated cases. 

 

The last mass shooting in Florida had so many red flags yet no one is willing to fix the real problem(s). Many reports of problems with this kid (Cruz) who had police visits some 30+ times. He posted on line that he was going to be the next school shooter. FBI got several tips informing of future problems. He was getting bullied. Police chief who told police "stand down" and wait for SWAT.

 

I just question if any of the real problems will be looked at or ever fixed?


Yes it did and the biggest one was that Cruz was a member of the Far Right. He even had the Nazi symbol in his body art. Get rid of the far right and you will end most of this. That will also cut down the number of mentally ill people as all the far right fit in to that category. Look at our President.


If we do as you suggested (cut down on the mentally ill), that would mean wiping out most liberals. Do you really mean that?


Looks like the new Trump policy of mass executions on order of the Dictator is being passed down to the followers. Red the story in the press I posted about. Trump wants to impose the Death penalty by Executive Order and here is the first sign we see from the followers that they approve of killing Americans who oppose the Dictator. WAKE UP PEOPLE. GERMANY OF THE 1930 IS ARRIVING. THEY HAD HITLER WE HAVE TRUMP.

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If we do as you suggested (cut down on the mentally ill), that would mean wiping out most liberals. Do you really mean that?


Hadn't thought about that... but it would be a consideration.

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@john258wrote:

@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:

@TxGrandpa2wrote:

@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:


Heroin is banned throughout the U.S. yet widely available in Chicago. Your "ban" would work the same way!


More of the knee-jerk comments by the anti-gun crowd.  I don't own guns and don't allow them on my property, but I have no objections to responsible ownership by others.  I do have a problem with those who attempt to force their ideas on others.  That is the pathway for dictatorships and losing constitutional freedoms.

 

And in addressing the topics blaming Veterans, I was just reading this reader's comment on a media site in response to the shooting in California with restrictive gun control:

 

"It strikes me that in previous generations, soldiers returning from war also had PTSD. They received no treatment for their condition, and they certainly didn't receive the best treatment from VA centers, yet they didn't go crazy and try to shoot everyone when they felt wronged. Why are people today going on these killing rampages?"

 

Also remember the last two major shootings wasn't by vets but by young people who managed to get their hands on guns, but thinking back as far as the Second World War onward I can't recall hearing of mass shootings by Veterans except in isolated cases. 

 

The last mass shooting in Florida had so many red flags yet no one is willing to fix the real problem(s). Many reports of problems with this kid (Cruz) who had police visits some 30+ times. He posted on line that he was going to be the next school shooter. FBI got several tips informing of future problems. He was getting bullied. Police chief who told police "stand down" and wait for SWAT.

 

I just question if any of the real problems will be looked at or ever fixed?



@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:

@TxGrandpa2wrote:

@NOTHAPPENINGwrote:


Heroin is banned throughout the U.S. yet widely available in Chicago. Your "ban" would work the same way!


More of the knee-jerk comments by the anti-gun crowd.  I don't own guns and don't allow them on my property, but I have no objections to responsible ownership by others.  I do have a problem with those who attempt to force their ideas on others.  That is the pathway for dictatorships and losing constitutional freedoms.

 

And in addressing the topics blaming Veterans, I was just reading this reader's comment on a media site in response to the shooting in California with restrictive gun control:

 

"It strikes me that in previous generations, soldiers returning from war also had PTSD. They received no treatment for their condition, and they certainly didn't receive the best treatment from VA centers, yet they didn't go crazy and try to shoot everyone when they felt wronged. Why are people today going on these killing rampages?"

 

Also remember the last two major shootings wasn't by vets but by young people who managed to get their hands on guns, but thinking back as far as the Second World War onward I can't recall hearing of mass shootings by Veterans except in isolated cases. 

 

The last mass shooting in Florida had so many red flags yet no one is willing to fix the real problem(s). Many reports of problems with this kid (Cruz) who had police visits some 30+ times. He posted on line that he was going to be the next school shooter. FBI got several tips informing of future problems. He was getting bullied. Police chief who told police "stand down" and wait for SWAT.

 

I just question if any of the real problems will be looked at or ever fixed?


Yes it did and the biggest one was that Cruz was a member of the Far Right. He even had the Nazi symbol in his body art. Get rid of the far right and you will end most of this. That will also cut down the number of mentally ill people as all the far right fit in to that category. Look at our President.


If we do as you suggested (cut down on the mentally ill), that would mean wiping out most liberals. Do you really mean that?

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