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@GailL1 wrote:

Richard Cordray knew about this court case and decided to leave early and go ahead and make his appointment.  Most likely at the urging of some of those same liberal democrats who created this mess.

 

I see this as just part of the game of politics 'gotcha' - just like President Obama played it.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Trump is an idiot and idiots create this kind of chaos. If you want to discuss the pros and cons of the agency...fine but this thread is about what a moron Trump has proved to be. This is simply another example. To blame it on the guy who quit and followed the rules is a tad disingenuous. 

 

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The real issue here is "Will Der Trumper be allowed to destroy consumer financial protection by sabotaging the agency designed to PROTECT consumers after we all saw why such protection was needed after the jrbush crash destroyed the finances of tens of millions of Americans with predatory lending.

 

neoRepublicans support a return to predatory lending and the redistribution of wealth from the middle Class to the very top of the 1%, and this will be greatly enhanced by the removal of the CFPA from the game.

 

Progressives believe robbing people with slimy business practices is wrong and think it should not ever be allowed to return to jrbush levels.

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@john258 wrote:

@GailL1 wrote:

The earlier resignation and appointment by the CFPB former head, Mr. Corday threw this into turmoil.

 

He knew what the Admin. had planned - most likely this will have to be settled in the Courts since there are conflicting laws as to appointments and why this agencies is different than the rest.

 

 


The appointment by Mr. Corday was in line with the law and he did what he was supposed todo. It was Trump who had his puppets who found  a law he could try and use to create a mess as he always does. He could have appointed a new director as called for in the law and submitted him for approval by the Senate. You really had to reach for this, and in the process showed you are a far right Trump supporter. We now understand your posts on SS, and Medicare as they fit the far right.


I am a libertarian and a libertarian that reports the facts regardless of the players.

Read my last post about the lawsuit PHH vs CFPB - like I said this issue is not new - the case was filed in 2016. Mr. Cordray just hastened up the excitement for a court ruling.

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@GailL1 wrote:

@NZRichva wrote:

@GailL1 wrote:

That's your opinion to the two sided argument.  Reuters says that legal scholars argued about it all weekend and did not come up with an answer.

 

Reuters 11/27/2017 - CFPB's Controversial Structure Looms Over Leadership Showdown

 

How does it look when NOT a legislative committee but Presient Obama appointed the 1st CFPB Director.  And then the gall of wanting the (sole) director to appoint his predecessor.  Talk about stacking the deck !!

 

This has already been in court for a while as I mentioned earlier.

It is now just time to settle this - by the Courts.


If you check, you will find my original point was the Obama would have gotten all his ducks in a row, worked with the different parties, and resolved this without throwing the agency into chaos. Captain Donald J. Incompetent could not be bothered. 


President Obama started all of this mess by doing the initial appointment himself when he could have asked a legislative committee (both parties) to appoint the initial director.  President Obama was urged on by a handful of liberals who wanted it their way.

 

The court case of PHH Corp. vs CFPB has been working through the courts since last year- There have been ruling for both the agency and ruling in favor of the Administration especially concerning this (sole) directorship fiasco constitutionality, which is only one part of the suit.

 

This is not new - 

 

 HousingWire 03/2017 - In major reversal, U.S. Sides with PHH, calls CFPB structure Unconstitutional

 

The court case is currently in the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, I believe this was a re-hearing  - it was argued in May of this year and even aired by CSpan.  No decision thus far.

 

Richard Cordray knew about this court case and decided to leave early and go ahead and make his appointment.  Most likely at the urging of some of those same liberal democrats who created this mess.

 

I see this as just part of the game of politics 'gotcha' - just like President Obama played it.

 

 

 

 

 

 


What you post is straight from the far right BOT farm. The Russians have taught the far right well and they follow what their leaders tell them to keep us away from real news. How about our mentally impaired President making comments at the Code Talkers meeting in the WH today. Is this the subject the leaders chose to try and change the subject to.

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@NZRichva wrote:

@GailL1 wrote:

That's your opinion to the two sided argument.  Reuters says that legal scholars argued about it all weekend and did not come up with an answer.

 

Reuters 11/27/2017 - CFPB's Controversial Structure Looms Over Leadership Showdown

 

How does it look when NOT a legislative committee but Presient Obama appointed the 1st CFPB Director.  And then the gall of wanting the (sole) director to appoint his predecessor.  Talk about stacking the deck !!

 

This has already been in court for a while as I mentioned earlier.

It is now just time to settle this - by the Courts.


If you check, you will find my original point was the Obama would have gotten all his ducks in a row, worked with the different parties, and resolved this without throwing the agency into chaos. Captain Donald J. Incompetent could not be bothered. 


President Obama started all of this mess by doing the initial appointment himself when he could have asked a legislative committee (both parties) to appoint the initial director.  President Obama was urged on by a handful of liberals who wanted it their way.

 

The court case of PHH Corp. vs CFPB has been working through the courts since last year- There have been ruling for both the agency and ruling in favor of the Administration especially concerning this (sole) directorship fiasco constitutionality, which is only one part of the suit.

 

This is not new - 

 

 HousingWire 03/2017 - In major reversal, U.S. Sides with PHH, calls CFPB structure Unconstitutional

 

The court case is currently in the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, I believe this was a re-hearing  - it was argued in May of this year and even aired by CSpan.  No decision thus far.

 

Richard Cordray knew about this court case and decided to leave early and go ahead and make his appointment.  Most likely at the urging of some of those same liberal democrats who created this mess.

 

I see this as just part of the game of politics 'gotcha' - just like President Obama played it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@GailL1 wrote:

The earlier resignation and appointment by the CFPB former head, Mr. Corday threw this into turmoil.

 

He knew what the Admin. had planned - most likely this will have to be settled in the Courts since there are conflicting laws as to appointments and why this agencies is different than the rest.

 

 


The appointment by Mr. Corday was in line with the law and he did what he was supposed todo. It was Trump who had his puppets who found  a law he could try and use to create a mess as he always does. He could have appointed a new director as called for in the law and submitted him for approval by the Senate. You really had to reach for this, and in the process showed you are a far right Trump supporter. We now understand your posts on SS, and Medicare as they fit the far right.

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This is way more than Der Trumper appointing a man who has publically stated the agency he is going to run was totally worthless and should be abolished...along with protecting consumers from financial fraudsters.

 

Its about the President being able to totally control the only branch of Government that can actually DO anything without involving the other two branches. Lemontop is not bright enough to have figured this out, so its the GOPerLords making another play to expand their minority rule on the way to a true Oligarchy.

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@GailL1 wrote:

That's your opinion to the two sided argument.  Reuters says that legal scholars argued about it all weekend and did not come up with an answer.

 

Reuters 11/27/2017 - CFPB's Controversial Structure Looms Over Leadership Showdown

 

How does it look when NOT a legislative committee but Presient Obama appointed the 1st CFPB Director.  And then the gall of wanting the (sole) director to appoint his predecessor.  Talk about stacking the deck !!

 

This has already been in court for a while as I mentioned earlier.

It is now just time to settle this - by the Courts.


If you check, you will find my original point was the Obama would have gotten all his ducks in a row, worked with the different parties, and resolved this without throwing the agency into chaos. Captain Donald J. Incompetent could not be bothered. 

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That's your opinion to the two sided argument.  Reuters says that legal scholars argued about it all weekend and did not come up with an answer.

 

Reuters 11/27/2017 - CFPB's Controversial Structure Looms Over Leadership Showdown

 

How does it look when NOT a legislative committee but Presient Obama appointed the 1st CFPB Director.  And then the gall of wanting the (sole) director to appoint his predecessor.  Talk about stacking the deck !!

 

This has already been in court for a while as I mentioned earlier.

It is now just time to settle this - by the Courts.

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@GailL1 wrote:

 

 

It is a legal question:

 

Which federal law decides who will lead the CFPB — the Federal Vacancies Reform Act, which gives the president the ability to fill many open positions in the executive branch, or the Dodd-Frank financial reform that created the bureau in the first place?

 

 


No it's not. The FVRA only applies when there is no other legislation governing the appointment of a position.

 

The Consumer Fiancial Protection Act expressly provides for a different succession,  namely for the CFPB's Deputy Director to assume the role of acting Director: "the Deputy Director ... shall (not may, and there's no time limit)... serve as acting Director in the absence or unavailability of the Director." That plain language is an express provision for a different succession, and this makes sense as a policy matter--why design an agency to be insulated from Presidential control, only to hand the keys to the White House whenever the Director leaves before the expiry of his term? 

 

This is just another case where Republicans want a Government of Greedy Old People instead of a Government of Laws, just like killing Obamacare with an amendment to the budget reconcilliation when they cannot do it by a vote in either House of Congress.

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