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CNN anchor Victor Blackwell admitted Saturday morning on “New Day” that the United States got “almost everything it wanted” in the U.S.-Mexico trade deal that was announced Friday.

 

The “New Day” coverage began with CNN White House correspondent Sarah Westwood describing the White House’s intention to “frame this as a victory for President Trump,” who reversed his original plans to impose a tariff on Mexican imports in response to the country’s concessions, particularly “stepped-up immigration enforcement efforts.”

 

Westwood reported Trump’s Friday night announcement before showing video of the Mexican ambassador calling what the country agreed to “unprecedented.”

 

“I am pleased to inform you that the United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico,” Trump announced via Twitter Friday night. “The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended. Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States. Details of the agreement will be released shortly by the State Department. Thank you!”

 

The president delved into more of the deal’s specifics on Saturday, including Mexico’s promise to deploy their own troops at the border.

 

“Now, there is the additional border enforcement and help in breaking up trafficking networks. The U.S. got almost everything it wanted from Mexico,” Blackwell noted from the anchor desk after Westwood signed off.

 

The anchor’s admission comes as Rep. Maxine Waters and others framed the news as Trump caving from “just another bluff.”

 

 

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A win! ??

Smoke and mirrors...accusations and falsehoods...lies and dishonesty...projection and blame...those are what trump is good at, and not solving problems or fixing things. 

I suppose that the “dimm haters” probably think that hiding the USS McCain, demeaning a Royal family member, berating the Mayor of London,

interjecting himself in British politics, name calling the leader of the House and Special Counsel while on foreign soil, and the all time totally disrespectful fox interview done with the backdrop of fallen Heroes in the Normandy cementary...these are “wins” by trump??

And I have to agree with @Roxanna35 here,

let’s see how much gets done within the backdrop of the corruption of the Mexican government, or how long it takes, or if any of the agreement takes place...stay tuned!

trump does not want the border issues fixed!

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@MaVolta wrote:

New York Times on Twitter:

Breaking News: President Trump hailed his new deal with Mexico to avoid tariffs. But the terms were actually agreed on months ago, officials in both nations said.

 

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1137454034447716355?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr...


I'll go with the 'face-saving' option.  We've seen Trump pull this ploy before.  Part of art of the deal?

 

From the NYT article:

 

Mr. Trump’s decision to use trade as a bludgeon against Mexico was driven in part by his obsession with stopping what he falsely calls an invasion of the country and in part by a desire to satisfy his core supporters, many of who have grown angry at his inability to build his promised border wall.
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New York Times on Twitter:

Breaking News: President Trump hailed his new deal with Mexico to avoid tariffs. But the terms were actually agreed on months ago, officials in both nations said.

 

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1137454034447716355?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr...

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@jimc91 wrote:

 

Mexico can do more and they came to the table understanding what was expected by the US.  It's a WIN.

 

 


By the way.........what WAS expected by the US?  Trump never said. He said it would  be whatever criteria he chose at the time.  Looks like all they had to do was promise 60K of nonexistent troops and give him a press release. 

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@jimc91 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

Not that I want to say that Trump has been played but Mexico just formed its National Guard after the last election. The Commander said it would take several years to build up the force.  They don't have sixty thousand troops so they are pulling them from somewhere.  Smoke and mirrors?


You are entitled to your opinion but any way you slice it, this is a win for America.!!

 

Mexico can do more and they came to the table understanding what was expected by the US.  It's a WIN.

 

Such  an optimistic statement. there are no winners of looses, in  this deal. Mexico will do what they can which in my view will not be much. mainly because they have have had a culture of corruption in their government for decades.

And unless they start shooting people left and right. we won't see what Trump is really expecting.

Sorry but that was not the solution. The solution lies unfortunately with the government of those countries. they are the only ones that can solve this issue.  but again, between the corruption and the lack of means, this is not an issue that we will see a solution soon.


 

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Trump throws away an ally in exchange for a handful of magic beans.

 

If Trump's tactic worked, then we should expect his CBP to stop dumping refugees on our streets every day.  When can we expect that to happen?  When the creating of the Mexican National Guard was announced earlier this year, it  has said it would take two years to get it up and running.  

 

 

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It is a win as far as tariffs being avoided on Monday, but the agreement is only a start.  Again, it remains to be seen if the U.S. and Mexico remain on the same page. 

 

Mexico's current immigration laws are also woefully lacking and outdated.  This is not a case where the U.S. can walk away and expect Mexico to handle the whole burden.  Undoubtedly, it is why Mexico has resisted the 'Safe Third Country' agreement because in essence and geographically, they would bear the brunt and they are also ill-equipped to do so.

 

Sending troops to the southern border to stop the trafficking and smuggling companies is a start, but it is only a start and a temporary fix.  Why do such operations proliferate in the Northern Triangle in the first place?  Maybe it is because there is a willing base of customers who are desperate to leave.their home country because the conditions have become so unbearable?  What is being done to help with the root problems? 

 

Former homeland security secretary Jeh Johnson, who confronted a border surge in 2014, said the United States saw major reductions in migration after the Mexican government agreed to toughen enforcement along the border with Guatemala. By the following year, illegal crossings into the United States fell to a 50-year low.

But the changes were short-lived, and border arrests shot up again in 2016.

“In my experience you can do things more aggressively at the border that will have a sharp but short impact on numbers,” said Johnson, who served in the Obama administration. “But as long as underlying conditions in Central America persist, things will always revert back to the longer trend lines, and that’s why continuing aid to Central America is so important to solve larger problems.”

 

Source: Washington Post

 

'America first' is all fine and dandy, but when apathy negatively affects America, what good is it?

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Mexico's has always had the ability to control their southern border and they have never done so.

I believe that perhaps now, they will actually do what they should have done for years. and never have.

It wll stand the test of time as to how effective Mexico can be in controlling its southern border. because they will have to really stand very hard with their own cartels and coyotes that have always existed in Mexico. and as we all know, Mexico is quite a corrupt  government for years and their military and police happen to be  addicts to corruption.

So, let's see how much pressure the government of Mexico can impose in their own country to  deal with this issue.

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