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@Richva wrote:

Not that I want to say that Trump has been played but Mexico just formed its National Guard after the last election. The Commander said it would take several years to build up the force.  They don't have sixty thousand troops so they are pulling them from somewhere.  Smoke and mirrors?


You are entitled to your opinion but any way you slice it, this is a win for America.!!

 

Mexico can do more and they came to the table understanding what was expected by the US.  It's a WIN.

 

 


This is going to be seen as a win by a lot of Americans.  Just not the ones who know anything about what just happened. This deal is one step above MY sending 60K troops to Mexico's southern border..................wait a minute.

 

I HAVE GOOD NEWS. WE FOLKS IN THE BORDERLANDS BUILT THE WALL OURSELVES OVER THE WEEKEND AND YOU CAN ALL STOP TALKING ABOUT IT NOW.  (Scary if that works)

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@Richva wrote:

Not that I want to say that Trump has been played but Mexico just formed its National Guard after the last election. The Commander said it would take several years to build up the force.  They don't have sixty thousand troops so they are pulling them from somewhere.  Smoke and mirrors?


You are entitled to your opinion but any way you slice it, this is a win for America.!!

 

Mexico can do more and they came to the table understanding what was expected by the US.  It's a WIN.

 

 

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Not that I want to say that Trump has been played but Mexico just formed its National Guard after the last election. The Commander said it would take several years to build up the force.  They don't have sixty thousand troops so they are pulling them from somewhere.  Smoke and mirrors?

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USA Today 06/07/2019 Reports on US / Mexico Agreement over Migrants

 

The State Department Friday evening released broad guidelines of the agreement between Mexico and the United States.

 

Mexico has agreed to deploy its national guard throughout Mexico, in particular to its Southern border, which borders Guatemala, according to details of the agreement released by the State Department. In addition, Mexico has agreed to take "decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations as well as their illicit financial and transportation networks."

 

According to the State Department said the United States will "immediately expand" the implementation of an existing protocol "across its entire Southern Border" and, as a result, migrants seeking asylum at the U.S.-Mexico border "will be rapidly returned to Mexico where they may await the adjudication of their asylum claims." Mexican officials have agreed to offer jobs, health care and education to those awaiting the adjudication of asylum claims.

 

However, the Trump administration abandoned its most controversial demand – that Mexico agree to be designated as a safe third-party country, which would have meant accepting asylum applications from thousands of Central American migrants.

 

Both countries agreed to "take further actions" if the measures adopted do not result in limiting migrants seeking asylum. It is unclear at the moment what the new actions might be. It is also unclear how the U.S. and Mexico will measure results.

 

In the current talks, Mexican negotiators have not publicly spelled out a specific financial request, but they have made it clear they want economic investment to help address the root causes of the crisis.

 

Hopefully, more details will be forthcoming -

 


Yes!  Addressing the root causes of the crisis is of utmost importance IMO.   Mexico plans on deploying its national guard, particularly to its southern border to take "decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations as well as their illicit financial and transportation networks."   This is something McAleenan has also recognized.

 

Hurray that they have reached an agreement.  No one, not the U.S., not Mexico, wanted to see tariffs, except for you-know-who.  Hopefully, the U.S. and Mexico remain on the same page.



    

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USA Today 06/07/2019 Reports on US / Mexico Agreement over Migrants

 

The State Department Friday evening released broad guidelines of the agreement between Mexico and the United States.

 

Mexico has agreed to deploy its national guard throughout Mexico, in particular to its Southern border, which borders Guatemala, according to details of the agreement released by the State Department. In addition, Mexico has agreed to take "decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations as well as their illicit financial and transportation networks."

 

According to the State Department said the United States will "immediately expand" the implementation of an existing protocol "across its entire Southern Border" and, as a result, migrants seeking asylum at the U.S.-Mexico border "will be rapidly returned to Mexico where they may await the adjudication of their asylum claims." Mexican officials have agreed to offer jobs, health care and education to those awaiting the adjudication of asylum claims.

 

However, the Trump administration abandoned its most controversial demand – that Mexico agree to be designated as a safe third-party country, which would have meant accepting asylum applications from thousands of Central American migrants.

 

Both countries agreed to "take further actions" if the measures adopted do not result in limiting migrants seeking asylum. It is unclear at the moment what the new actions might be. It is also unclear how the U.S. and Mexico will measure results.

 

In the current talks, Mexican negotiators have not publicly spelled out a specific financial request, but they have made it clear they want economic investment to help address the root causes of the crisis.

 

Hopefully, more details will be forthcoming -

 

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President Donald Trump signed an agreement with Mexico Friday night to suspend tariffs that were set to take effect Monday in exchange to help to prevent illegal immigration.

 

Donald J. Trump
 
@realDonaldTrump
 

I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico. The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended. Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to....

Donald J. Trump

I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico. The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended. Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to....

Donald J. Trump
 
@realDonaldTrump
 

....stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States. Details of the agreement will be released shortly by the State Department. Thank you

 

Trump tweeted:

I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico. The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended. Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to … stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States. Details of the agreement will be released shortly be the State Department. Thank you!

Prior to the agreement, Trump had announced that a 5% tariff would be implemented on Monday, which would increase 5% each month until plateauing at 25% in October.

 

These tariffs were meant to punish Mexico for failing to prevent Central American migrants from crossing through Mexico’s northern border to reach the United States.

 

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

 

This is great news!

 

 

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MaVolta posted..

Trump has had over two years to deal with the border and immigration crisis, and he has done nothing to improve the situation.

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Trump is trying but the left are opposing him, in fact many on the left say there is no crisis.

I ask you what did President Obama and the Democrats do to deal with the border and immigration crisis? 

Trump can't get anything done because of the D's? That's your excuse?

 

He had two years with House and Senate majorities, and his only accomplishments were tax cuts for the rich, and taking a wrecking ball to the ACA. For two years, Trump as done nothing on immigration. In fact, it was Trump who walked away from the $20b + for border security in exchange for DACA in 2018 that Schumer convinced D's to go along with.  So don't blame this on the D's. Trump walked!

 

And why is the right is always changing the subject to Obama? That's history, and this is now. But since you asked, Obama tried some of the same deterrants early on that Trump's admin tried to do. But that approach changed quickly as they realized that this was a humanitarian crisis. This article is from January 2019 explains the difference.

President Obama Also Faced A 'Crisis' At The Southern Border

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/09/683623555/president-obama-also-faced-a-crisis-at-the-southern-border

 

Obama also enforced laws already on the books, per this article from 2016 . . .

5 Things To Know About Obama's Enforcement Of Immigration Laws

https://www.npr.org/2016/08/31/491965912/5-things-to-know-about-obamas-enforcement-of-immigration-la...

 

Trump has been in office over 2 years and the problem gets worse by the day. As I mentioned before, the coyotes are clearing out entire towns, and they have Trump to thank for it. 

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@KidBoy2 wrote:

MsStretch posted...

What "left wing Congress member" has said we have no problem or do you just get your information from Trump's tweets?

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Thanks for asking.

Its time you understand that there are many on the ignorant left that say there is no crisis on the boarder. Here is one...


Dem Rep. Ben Ray Lujan: The Only Crisis On The Southern Border Was Created By Trump
Posted By Tim Hains

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/04/07/dem_rep_ben_ray_lujan_the_only_crisis_on_the_sout...


Dem Rep. Ben Ray Lujan: The Only Crisis On The Southern Border Was Created By Trump
Posted By Tim Hains
On Date April 7, 2019

Thanks for posting evidence of the "many on the ignorant left that say there is no crisis on the boarder [sic]".  Oh wait, not many -- one, but Lujan didn't exactly say there is NO crisis at the border.

 

"Look, this is not the national security crisis that the president continues to describe. There is a humanitarian crisis, but it's created by President Donald Trump."

 

But I see no point in debating semantics.  You say 'to-MAH-to', I say 'to-MAY-to'.

 



    

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Trump has had over two years to deal with the border and immigration crisis, and he has done nothing to improve the situation.

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Trump is trying but the left are opposing him, in fact many on the left say there is no crisis.

I ask you what did President Obama and the Democrats do to deal with the border and immigration crisis? What?
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OMG- the ignoble donald supporter just used a CNN link to document his thread......hilarious

 

Donald is quickly becoming the boy who cried wolf - when the only action he takes is to name everything a national security issue.   

 

One has to begin to wonder if it is more of a DISTRACTION, when the headlines from other reliable sources:  

 

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130 Percent of Trump’s China-Tariff Revenue Is Now Going to Angry Farmers

 

2.    

US factory orders fall; shipments post largest drop in two years

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