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What will the Democrats ask for next ? Mostly Tax Payer Funded Pensions w/ Cost of Living Increases and Lifetime Medical for all hard working Americans , oh that's right , thats only for the privileged Gov't workers , but that's not Socialism !!


They don't have to call for it - employee compensation packages are and have been quite common for many moons.

 

Is there something you'd like to discuss.

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Is there anything written that will provide  bullet point for HR675?  Well HR675  from what I saw has nothing to do with Medicare for All 
Is anything written at this point about this?

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The only reason that I mentioned Medicare for all is the fact that I see that too many people simply endorse something that in reality most of us know very little about it.

I will read that HR 670 But  this is not the way to introduce something as important to all of us.

At least, we should be able to see the bullet points of this program to at least learn something about this program. We all know, that most of all Americans will not read that bill and will simply vote  because their preferred candidate tells them is ok.

Now regarding what I wrote about the border.

When I applied for a green card   at that point in time you couldn't have a communicable disease. at that time was tuberculosis. if you had  active tuberculosis they would not accept your application. 
Apparently that has changed I am simply wondering if that is wise decision or not. perhaps some of you have opinions on any of this.

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What will the Democrats ask for next ? Mostly Tax Payer Funded Pensions w/ Cost of Living Increases and Lifetime Medical for all hard working Americans , oh that's right , thats only for the privileged Gov't workers , but that's not Socialism !!

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Once again, "Medicare for all" is a dishonest term since it is basically only available to those who paid in - a government funded program is not paid into by 47% of the population. Secondly, Medicare has age requirements - the system being advocated for does not.

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I'll address the Medicare for all part of the topic and leave the asylum issue to the laws now in place and who administers them in reference to this lady.

 

NO one has to accept Medicare for all blindly. House bill HR 676 is there for all to read, just Google it. Any bill put forward for  "Medicare For All" can be read. People are lazy and want a very short definition and that just can't be enough to judge on. HR 676, IMO, needs tweaked but it is an excellent starting point for a single payer system.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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Our general elections are coming in 2020  and there are many issues that we need to really think and get as much knowledge that we can.

Medicare for all.

We need to understand this benefit as it is  today. We all  contribute to this benefit most of our working life. and at least for 40 quarters. We also have to reach the age of 65  inorder to be able to obtain this benefit.

If we accept Medicare for all. How is this benefit going to merge with all the citizens and how any of this will impact Medicare.

I think for example. a father with a wife and children.  the only worker is the husband and he is require to put part of his salary for Medicare. Does that include his wife and children?

If not. How are we going to deal with anything like that?

I truly believe that a National Health Care system tailored to the USA needs is what we should study and implement in this contry but even before we do any of this, we need to do price control on the drugs by the Pharmaceuticals otherwise this system what we cant to call Medicare for All cannot survive.

There are many things that need to happen before we blindly endorse  Medicare for All and think about how is going to be implemented and how it will happen.

Now for another subject.

The border. I heard yesterday on NPR  an interview with a lady from Honduras that is seeking asylum. this is the case.
She came here with her two daughters, one an adult of 18 years old. and herself and a minor daughter.

The 18 years old did not qualified for asylum. the Mother is still at the hearings  process. this is what she claims the reason for wanting asylum,.

She is afraid of violence because she is black and has HIV . she claims discrimination.

My question to  you all, 
Is the fact that she is black and is HIV positive a reason to admit a person and provide asylum?
I would like to see answers to this question and please reasonable responses, this is not a Republican or Democrat issue this is our  present laws and how they are implemented. Remember that anyone can come into the US and claim asylum that is not the question. the question is the reasons that we need to consider in order to provide asylum. 

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