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It’s funny that the right overlooks the fact that trump is trying to interfere with an investigation by firing a number of FBI and DOJ agents, for looking into questionable connections with enemy foreign powers.  

And is it against the law and a crime if FBI and DOJ officials have opinions of political candidates or those in office and even to communicate them. 

 

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Perhaps  I cannot see   this issue as well as other. but, I fail to see the importance of Page words or even actions.

What could she have done? convict Trump all by herself?  as far as insulting Trump we have all done that here and in many other places. 
Just because she was stupid enough to     put in an email what she thought about Trump? we do that here all the time. and no one really pays that much attention, Is it because we are not FBI employees?  We need to put forth the proper proportion of those emails and what they really mean. Is not even that they got fired for it. which was the proper thing to do. under the climate that exists today. but in a way to remind anyone where to write anything these days.

I don't justify her actions but, I happen to agree with what she said in the emails. perhaps not in the way she meant it.  but the outcome is probably the same.

We need to stop and put our common sense where our brain apparently used to be

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Looks to me like McCabe called it on this one. This is exactly what happened. 

 

 

McCabe confirmed recently that he rushed to open an investigation into whether Trump was working on behalf of the Russians shortly after Comey’s firing — and before Trump could install a handpicked replacement.

 

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“It is not typically appropriate or operationally necessary to have fact witnesses attend an interview,” Page said in the transcript, noting that no other witness was allowed to bring such an entourage.

She pushed back against the suggestion that the FBI “blew over” potentially charging Clinton with gross negligence under the Espionage Act, saying officials did consider it — but decided that the move would be too “constitutionally vague,” unprecedented, and “that they did not feel that they could sustain a charge.” Page also said Richard Scott, the Justice Department official in charge of overseeing the Clinton probe, had advised against making the harsher charge.

 

Scott did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

 

Ultimately, then-FBI Director James B. Comey stepped ahead of then-attorney general Loretta E. Lynch to announce in mid-2016 that Clinton would not be charged with any crimes, but that she had been “extremely careless” — a move that was intended to lend more credibility to the result, though Page acknowledged that “the intent backfired.”

 

Comey’s central role in both the Clinton and Trump investigations is a running theme throughout Page’s testimony, but one she often references obliquely in the transcript, often deferring to the advice of an FBI lawyer present not to divulge details about matters concerning him. In one exchange pertaining to Comey, Page appears to stop just short of acknowledging that the FBI was looking into opening a counterintelligence investigation against Trump after Comey’s firing. Though the FBI was looking into alleged ties between Trump’s campaign and Russians previously, Page said, the bureau had no reason at that point to suspect that Trump himself was involved.

 

Former congressman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), who was chairman of the Oversight Committee at the time of Page’s interview, pressed her on what she was referring to in a text reading: “we need to open the case we’ve been waiting on now while Andy [McCabe] is acting [FBI director].”

After speaking with the FBI’s lawyer, Page insisted she couldn’t say what it was — but did confirm that Comey’s firing was the “precipitating event.”

 

McCabe confirmed recently that he rushed to open an investigation into whether Trump was working on behalf of the Russians shortly after Comey’s firing — and before Trump could install a handpicked replacement.

 

Page also avoided discussing certain other topics that other figures in the probe would later detail, including a set of meetings in the fall of 2016 she participated in with Ohr, Page’s first boss at the Justice Department. Page declined to offer specifics to respond to lawmakers’ questions about what she knew of how Ohr passed information to the FBI in 2016 that he received from former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele regarding alleged ties between Trump and Russian officials. Ohr later disclosed that he had met with Page at least twice in the fall of 2016 to describe what he was learning from Steele — and that they eventually connected him with Joe Pientka, who was leading the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/in-newly-released-transcript-former-fbi-lawye...

 

 

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Also from the Lisa Page Transcript. She has Trump in the appropriate company. 

 

“Many of us in law enforcement dislike the subject of our investigations. We are not keen on pedophiles and fraudsters and spies and human traffickers,” Page said. “That is fine. What would be impermissible is to take that harsh language and to act in some way that was illegal or against the rules. And we don’t do it.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/in-newly-released-transcript-former-fbi-lawye...

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The right is trying to hard to CYA before the facts of the Mueller investigation come out.  So much fake news, so little time. 

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jimc91:  LISA PAGE TESTIMONY: COLLUSION STILL UNPROVEN BY THE TIME OF MUELLER'S SPECIAL COUNSEL APPOINTMENT

 

 

Wow, this really is a "bombshell' revelation. No proof of collusion before mueller got his investigation started? Next we're gonna learn he hadn't charged or indicted anyone either. Lol

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House Judiciary Committee Republicans on Tuesday released hundreds of pages of transcripts from last year's closed-door interview with ex-FBI attorney Lisa Page, revealing new details about the bureau's controversial internal discussions regarding an “insurance policy” against then-candidate Donald Trump.

 

Page first entered the spotlight in December 2017, when it was revealed by the Justice Department inspector general that she and then-FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok exchanged numerous anti-Trump text messages. The two were involved in the FBI’s initial counterintelligence investigation into Russian meddling and potential collusion with Trump campaign associates during the 2016 election, and later served on Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team.

 

LISA PAGE TESTIMONY: COLLUSION STILL UNPROVEN BY THE TIME OF MUELLER'S SPECIAL COUNSEL APPOINTMENT

 

Among their texts was one concerning the so-called "insurance policy." During her interview with the Judiciary Committee in July 2018, Page was questioned at length about that text -- and essentially confirmed this referred to the Russia investigation while explaining that officials were proceeding with caution, concerned about the implications of the case while not wanting to go at "total breakneck speed" and risk burning sources as they presumed Trump wouldn't be elected anyway.

Further, she confirmed investigators only had a "paucity" of evidence at the start.

 

Then-Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., kicked off that section of questioning by asking about the text sent from Strzok to Page in August 2016 which read: “I want to believe the path you threw out in Andy’s [McCabe's] office—that there’s no way he gets elected—but I’m afraid we can’t take the risk. It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”

 

The former FBI lawyer explained how the FBI was trying to strike a balance with the investigation into the Trump campaign—which agents called “Crossfire Hurricane.”

 

LISA PAGE 'COOPERATIVE,' 'CREDIBLE,' LAWMAKERS SAY AFTER 5-HOURS CLOSED-DOOR SESSION

 

“So, upon the opening of the crossfire hurricane investigation, we had a number of discussions up through and including the Director regularly in which we were trying to find an answer to the question, right, which is, is there someone associated with the [Trump] campaign who is working with the Russians in order to obtain damaging information about Hillary Clinton,” Page said. “And given that it is August, we were very aware of the speed and sensitivity that we needed to operate under.”

Page continued that, “if the answer is this is a guy just being puffery at a meeting with other people, great, then we don’t need to worry about this, and we can all move on with our lives; if this is, in fact, the Russians have coopted an individual with, you know, maybe wittingly or unwittingly, that’s incredibly grave, and we need to know that as quickly as possible.”

Page explained that the text message reflected their “continuing check-in” as to “how quickly to operate.”

 

NEW STRZOK-PAGE TEXTS REVEAL OTHERS WERE 'LEAKING LIKE MAD' IN LEAD UP TO TRUMP-RUSSIA PROBE

 

“[W]e don’t need to go at a total breakneck speed because so long as he doesn’t become President, there isn’t the same threat to national security, right,” Page explained, while saying that if Trump were not elected president, the bureau would still investigate.

 

“But if he becomes President, that totally changes the game because now he is the President of the United States,” Page told lawmakers. “He’s going to immediately start receiving classified briefings. He’s going to be exposed to the most sensitive secrets imaginable. And if there is somebody on his team who wittingly or unwittingly is working with the Russians, that is super serious.”

 

Page made clear, though, that those involved did not think Trump would beat Clinton: “So this reflects: Let’s be reasonable, let’s not, you know, throw the kitchen sink at this because he’s probably not going to be elected, and so then we don’t have quite as horrific a national security threat than if we do if he gets elected.”

 

Page also spoke to how little information the bureau was starting with, saying the FBI “knew so little” about whether the allegations were “true or not true,” and had "a paucity of evidence because we are just starting down the path" of vetting the allegations.

 

She later said that all they needed was an allegation, and claimed “it is entirely common, particularly in a counterintelligence investigation, that you would only have—you would have a small amount of evidence” in launching a probe.

 

The transcripts were released as Mueller continues his investigation, which Trump assails as a "witch hunt" on a regular basis but could have an impact on where congressional Democrats go with their own investigations -- or whether they pursue impeachment, something House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has come out against for the time being.

 

Page, who served a short detail on Mueller’s team, returned to her post at the FBI in 2017, and ultimately left the bureau in May 2018. Strzok was removed from Mueller’s team after the texts were discovered and was reassigned to the FBI’s Human Resources Division before being fired in August 2018.

 

Former FBI Deputy Director McCabe, meanwhile, recently said he did not recall ever discussing the "insurance policy" with Strzok or Page.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lisa-page-transcripts-reveal-details-of-anti-trump-insurance-policy...

 

 

 

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