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Who are you to question as to who is a parent or not? 

 

Of course all this is mainly about politics and only very partially about the kids.


Who are YOU to question the motive of each and every person who disagree's with your view?


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Decent honest, honorable and patriotic American Citizens find Putin's lemontop butt-boi appalling.

Thanks for the lies - but I still agree with Robert De Niro.

I was saying that about trump ten years before Putin boogered the election in favor of his "useful idiot"...

 

I know it's redundant, but Regressives appear not to be informed that many detention centers/jails allow mothers to raise infants/children today....

 

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But again, this is the administration that are the mental moral midgetswho thought Arpaio didn't deserve to serve his time.  "Free a Fascist Today".


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 Afisher wrote--- The Right Wing has imposed and apparently now support the idea that walking into the US and asking for asylum is now a CRIME.      Are they that stupid, really?       -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Was Hillary this stupid when she said this years ago?-Hillary 2003: ‘I Am, You Know, Adamantly Against Illegal Immigrants’ - Matt Vespa

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   The Right Wing has imposed and apparently now support the idea that walking into the US and asking for asylum is now a CRIME.      Are they that stupid, really?       

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That's because you don't know anything about detention or criminal justice.  There are better, more humane ways to provide community supervision to people who are accused of breaking the law.   These methods both ensure public safety and appearance in court.  And if they were out in the community, they could stay with their kids until their immigration hearing.   

 

And I also doubt you are a parent, or perhaps not a particularly involved parent, to think that's all that's needed to keep a child cared for.    


Who are you to question as to who is a parent or not?  Even those of us who are parents would be of the opinion that children shouldn't be placed in a dangerous situation like crossing our southern borders subjecting them to the dangers of traveling the hot deserts; or of knowing that they would be subject to detention by the Border Patrol..

 

But since you don't condone the idea of children being separated from their parent[s], what about when that parent is convicted of a criminal offense and sent off to prison.  So the child should also be stay with the parent in that case?  Along with criminals? 

 

As far as these illegals being released out in society.  How many of those disappear without meeting the conditions of their 'parole'? 

 

Is all these 'sob stories' because of concern for the children, or is it more about politics and dislike of the President?  I would believe it has to be more about politics where there is more of an interest in using public relations to further the cause of the Democratic Party to regain control of the Congres in the November elections.

 

Of course all this is mainly about politics and only very partially about the kids.

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In regards to the illegal immigrants who come from Central America -They claim they leave their country because of tryanny and possible persecution. Most of them come in from the southern border of Mexico and travel over a 1200 miles trek to reach the southern border of the United States and enter illegally into this country. My question is to the left-Why don`t these illegals consider themselves free of tryanny and persecution when they enter Mexico? Probably because ,Mexico won`t let them stay and the Mexico got it`s own problems with Mexicans fleeing the country. Mexico actually  help transport them through their terrority to our border to illegally enter our country. So my question to the left-Isn`t this a really good reason to have a wall?  I really don`t see Mexico willing to take care of all these illegal`s children the way we do even if it is for only 20 days in most cases.

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tempermental wrote-Today, more than 90% of those traveling as families are coming from Central America. You can’t return them quickly. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------You make the case better than I do for the need for temporary Detention centers- So when the illegal parent or other family member or whoever bring the children in ,commits a crime these kids are separated from those people. It is easier to return these  kids to Mexico but central America is a different story. FYI-these dedention centers  aren`t concentration camps but are actually nice facillities with 3 square meals ,plus snacks,schools,video games ,2 hours of outside recreation ,two phone calls /week etc.  Some of the older kids who were allowed to leave actually came back in a short time.


That's because you don't know anything about detention or criminal justice.  There are better, more humane ways to provide community supervision to people who are accused of breaking the law.   These methods both ensure public safety and appearance in court.  And if they were out in the community, they could stay with their kids until their immigration hearing.   

 

And I also doubt you are a parent, or perhaps not a particularly involved parent, to think that's all that's needed to keep a child cared for.    

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Scout - But when jr threatened to end the ability of those workers to move back and forth across the border, they just decided to stay where the work was, and Shazam, we had 10 million undocumented workers among us.

Evil Madman dt uses a law re unaccompanied minors. Remove them from their parents and Shazam, they are all “unaccompanied”. Grab them and lock them up.

 

ed - it is Trump who actually following the law that his predecessors established and expanded.

He is definitely expanding “the law” with his diabolical twist of creating orphans. By August he'll have 20,000 brown skinned children under this thumb. Their lives are his, all his.

 

Many are bad people who bring drugs and other criminal activities.

Do you know what dt's plans might be for his detainees?

His “great” play with the power of politics is receiving “zero tolerance” from the rest of the world. “the law” DID NOT allow him to abduct children from their families. He is inflicting that horror on 'his captives' all by himself.

 

My kids were placed in a foster care facility....."

How totally absurd.  Pretty sure their experiences were not at all like the kids concentrated in camps where they line up for meals 300 at a time, in shifts Equally absurd, some think this is nothing at all like what was done in Germany.

 

I was saying that about trump ten years before Putin boogered the election in favor of his "useful idiot"...

Lots of people were saying that 10 + years ago. I didn't pay attention until he started personally badgering the President and realized this man is crazy.  It's now so much worse.

 

 

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@easyed598 wrote:

ALFERD WROTE-Thanks for the lies - but I still agree with Robert De Niro.

I was saying that about trump ten years before Putin boogered the election in favor of his "useful idiot"...---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lies--LOL-Didn`t know Trump was running for President 10 years ago. More nonsense from   ALFERD

 

Well DUH!!  

trump wasn't running for office ten years ago...

Even most doltish, delusional, and dishonest trump suckers know that...

 

Why was I saying that about trump a decade - and more ago?

 

The cowardly, draft dodging, racist, scumbag was lying, cheating investors, bleeping up an airline investment, had managed to bleep up casino investments, engaged in multiple adulterous affairs...

You know - all kinds of things that republicans, conservatives, evangelicals and most of trump's klan members secretly wish they could have gotten away with - but are sadly reduced to only experiencing vicariously...




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ALFERD WROTE-Thanks for the lies - but I still agree with Robert De Niro.

I was saying that about trump ten years before Putin boogered the election in favor of his "useful idiot"...---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lies--LOL-Didn`t know Trump was running for President 10 years ago. More nonsense from   ALFERD

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