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Democrats Want to Re-Enter the Paris Climate Agreement – Here’s Why It’s Already Failing (2/2)

 
In part one I reviewed how the Paris Climate Agreement effectively asked the U.S. to heavily subsidize the climate goals of the developed world – while the developed world had to make the smallest cuts to their greenhouse gas emissions. A number of developing countries threatened to continue polluting if not properly compensated by the Agreement, but even that wouldn’t have mattered, because nothing in the Paris agreement is binding. If a nation fails to meet their targeted cuts in greenhouse emissions they can simply revise them for following years.

 

And yet we’re to believe that because Trump refused to subsidize this experiment the world is nearing its end.

 

Reality begs to differ.

Even (the failing) New York Times Admits the Paris Agreement Isn’t Working

Ironically, it’s the New York Times bewildered that the Agreement isn’t working as planned.

One of the greatest aforementioned flaws with the Paris Agreement is that no countries’ pledges to cut carbon emissions are binding. Entering into a contract where the other party or parties don’t have to uphold their end should be a red flag. If a country doesn’t cut emissions as much as they had pledged, they can simply revise their pledge without consequence. The Times is now realizing that, in their words, “The Paris Agreement, it seems, is only as good as the willingness of national leaders to keep their word,” and “So far, those voluntary pledges have not been sufficient.”

 

No kidding – and there’s no explanation for why this wasn’t a concern for them when they were blasting Trump for pulling out of the deal. As they now note:

 

Emissions are rising in the United States and China, the world’s two largest economies. [Five] Other countries are backsliding on their commitments. The world as a whole is not meeting its targets under the Paris pact.

 

Emissions in China have grown for the past two years, signaling the difficulties of shifting the country away from its coal-dependent industrial economy. Germany is having a hard time moving away from lignite because of political opposition in the country’s coal-rich east. The French president, Emmanuel Macron, faces unrest at home over a layer cake of taxes that working-class people say burdens them unfairly.

Globally, greenhouse gas emissions hit an all-time high in 2018, but don’t blame the U.S. for it.

The U.S. is (Mostly) Meeting the Paris Agreement’s Goals Without Being Part of It

While the aforementioned New York Times article quoted led by citing increasing emissions in the U.S., we’re doing a much better job of complying with the agreement than many other countries, despite not being part of it.

 

Indeed, as the Times noted “To be sure, the Paris pact, and the growing scientific clarity about global warming, has spurred countries and businesses to reorient themselves. From shipping to fast food to insurance, companies are setting their own targets to reduce carbon footprints. Solar and wind energy is expanding rapidly. Within the United States, a number of cities and states have dissented from the Trump administration’s planned exit and created their own local plans to green their economies.” U.S. emissions grew by about 2.5% in 2018, but the overall trend remains downward.

In March of 2018, U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said that “There are expectations that, independently of the position of the administration, the U.S. might be able to meet the commitments made in Paris as a country.”

 

In September of 2018, Mark Chediak reported in Bloomberg that “Cities, states, businesses and market forces are poised to trim carbon emissions to 17 percent below 2005 levels by 2025, according to a report presented Thursday by California Governor Jerry Brown and Michael Bloomberg. That compares with the 26 percent to 28 percent U.S. commitment under the Paris agreement.” In other words, the U.S. was still on track to meet 2/3rds of our climate-emission goals under the Paris Agreement.

 

And closing out the year, former NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg echoed the same sentiments reported in his publication earlier this year, telling NBC that it wouldn’t make much of a difference if Trump were to re-enter the Paris Agreement because “we are halfway there towards meeting our goals already.”

Don’t Fear the Reaper

Alarmists have thus far had an identical track record in predicting the apocalypse as every religious figure that’s claimed to know the same. The latter are rightly widely dismissed as crackpots, but the former have the media bolster their narrative and provide excuses for their failed predictions.

 

Predicting the date that the climate finally decides to launch D-Day on us is hardly the only scare tactic in the Left’s arsenal. In a speech widely viewed as inspirational by progressives for unknown reasons, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said in response to an argument nobody had made: “You want to tell people that their desire for clean air and clean water is elitist? Tell that to the kids in the South Bronx which are suffering from the highest rates of childhood asthma in the country … You’re telling those kids that they are trying to get on a plane to Davos? People are dying!”

 

The fiery rant masquerading as a speech came after a grand total of zero Senators voted in favor of her green new deal (with four Democrats siding with Republicans, and the rest abstaining). Among the 2020 hopefuls who abstained included Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker, Amy Klobuchar, and Bernie Sanders.

 

People are indeed dying of climate related deaths – albeit at the lowest rates in recorded history. While the climate changes, the species capable of sending a man to the moon also happens to be capable of adapting to their surroundings. As the Patrick J. Michaels noted:

 

Here are a couple of striking numbers from the data: in the decade from 2004 to 2013, worldwide climate-related deaths (including droughts, floods, extreme temperatures, wildfires, and storms) plummeted to a level 88.6 percent below that of the peak decade, 1930 to 1939. The year 2013, with 29,404 reported deaths, had 99.4 percent fewer climate-related deaths than the historic record year of 1932, which had 5,073,283 reported deaths for the same category.

Those figures are sourced from the International Disaster Database.

 

That decline in deaths coincided an increase in recorded natural disaster events. There were only 14 recorded in 1930, and 332 in 2013 according to Our World in Data. Of course, the earlier reporting data isn’t as reliable as the newest, so it’s extremely likely the 1930 figure is an underestimate.

 

Their figures also differ on climate deaths – showing a decline from roughly 540,000 deaths per year in the 1930s to just north of 50,000 by the 2010s. Measured per-capita, there were nearly 28 climate related deaths per 100,000 people in the 1930s, compared to under two today (a 93% decline).

 

There is no time in history where humans are safer from the climate – and ironically that fact coincides with peak hysteria.

 

 

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Democrats Want to Re-Enter the Paris Climate Agreement – Here’s Why It’s Already Failing (1/2)

 

If you thought Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s predictions that climate Armageddon is only 12 years around the corner was aggressive, Beto O’Rourke has already narrowed down the time-frame on our impending deaths to a mere 10 years!

 

No news on what inched us two years closer to oblivion overnight – but the solution is always the same – just agree with whatever policies liberals are trying to guilt-trip you into supporting.

 

The latest “solution” has been to rejoin the Paris Climate Agreement, an Obama-era agreement that Trump withdrew from in 2017. Earlier in April the House Foreign Affairs Committee advanced the Climate Action Now Act in an attempt to block Trump’s withdrawal from the Paris agreement and revert us to Obama’s goal of cutting greenhouse gas emissions between 26-28% by 2025 (below 2005 levels).

 

Any opposition to Democrats climate change “solutions” are inevitably framed as Republicans not caring about the environment, when in reality, Republicans simply don’t want feel good “solutions” that are “solutions” in name only. Any climate alarmist that’s paid attention to the aftermath of Trump’s Paris pullout should be relieved – but then again they wouldn’t be alarmists anymore if they did that.

 

While the U.S. is in a minority of countries that haven’t signed onto the Agreement, most other countries would’ve benefited at the U.S.’s expense with our inclusion. Who wouldn’t sign onto a deal that allows you to bilk another country for elusive climate goals?

Semblances of Sanity

Sane takes were hard to come by following Trump’s pullout from the agreement. The Cato Institute, no friend of Trump, praised the decision, noting that the Paris Agreement would do little to actually combat climate change while imposing massive costs that disproportionately fall on the American taxpayer. As they wrote in a public statement:

 

The Paris climate treaty is climatically insignificant. The EPA’s own models show it would only lower global warming by an inconsequential two-tenths of a degree Celsius by 2100. The cost to the U.S.—in the form of required payments of $100 billion per year from the developed to the developing world—is too great for the inconsequential results. These very real expenses will consume money that could be used by the private sector to fund innovative new technologies that are economically sound and can power our society with little pollution.

The goal of the Paris agreement is to bring temperatures down “well below” 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) above preindustrial levels.

A Subsidy from the U.S. to the Developed World

In addition to Cato, some organizations have been sounding the alarms for years before Trump’s pullout. Had the U.S. joined the Agreement, it would’ve been a subsidy to the developing world (who, as you will learn, are not meeting their goals). Turkey’s actions indicate the Agreement was a power grab to get U.S. money for some developing countries. As reported by Reuters in July 2017:

 

The U.S. decision to pull out of the Paris climate agreement means Turkey is less inclined to ratify the deal because the U.S. move jeopardizes compensation promised to developing countries, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said.

 

Erdogan was speaking at the G20 summit in Germany where leaders from the world’s leading economies broke with U.S. President Donald Trump over climate policy, following his announcement last month that he was withdrawing from the accord.

Erdogan said that when Turkey signed the accord France had promised that Turkey would be eligible for compensationfor some of the financial costs of compliance.

“So we said if this would happen, the agreement would pass through parliament. But otherwise it won’t pass,” Erdogan told a news conference, adding that parliament had not yet approved it.

 

“Therefore, after this step taken by the United States, our position steers a course towards not passing this from the parliament,” he said.

India, Iran, South Sudan, Niger, the Central African Republic, Cuba, Egypt, Paraguay, and some others made similar threats; that they would continue polluting if not properly compensated from the Agreement (effectively at our expense).

Nation’s that Receive the Most Sacrifice the Least

While the U.S. would’ve faced the largest bill from the Paris Climate Agreement, many other countries only pledged to cut a sliver of their emissions. Those countries received all the net monetary benefit – and had to sacrifice the least.

 

Yemen only pledged to cut 1% of greenhouse gas emissions, while Peru says they can cut emissions 30% by 2030 below baseline – yet that still amounts to a net 22% increase in pollution overall. And that’s with billions of dollars in funding! North Korea, meanwhile, says their pollution will double by 2030 (above 2000 levels), and that’s best-case scenario.

 

Developing countries received $48 billion from rich countries in 2015-2016 and will receive $100 billion by 2020 if goals are met.  For reference, this is nearly equal to the entire U.S. foreign aid budget of $49 billion in 2016.

 

That’s the massive bill America was being asked to foot while the rest of the world paid pennies – and was there any reason to believe the Paris agreement would actually succeed in its goals?

 

For the progress on that, stay tuned for part 2.

 

 

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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

Yep, and is why most responsible folk accurately blame trump and McConnell.  Pelosi can't do everything alone.

 

Voters have to vote the low-fo idiots out of office.


Here we have a wonderful example of the Problem

 

Make Excuses for your Partisan Side

 

Blame the other Side

 

EXAMPLE

 

Two Democratic Majorities Crippled by Republican Minorities

 

Oregon & Washington DC

 

But Democrat Voters are more than Happy to make and accept execuses

 

 

 

 

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Yep, and is why most responsible folk accurately blame trump and McConnell.  Pelosi can't do everything alone.

 

Voters have to vote the low-fo idiots out of office.


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

Democratic wins in these 9 states will have seismic policy consequences

 

One election at a time, Grasshopper.  One election at a time......


Yeah I Know - but elections are different then Governing

 

We Elect Representatives to Govern

 

Not just to sit in Office and Talk about who is too Blame until the next Election

 

Where the Responsibility to Govern has been transferred to the Voters

 

 

 

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Democratic wins in these 9 states will have seismic policy consequences

 

One election at a time, Grasshopper.  One election at a time......


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Oregon Republicans to return after a week-long walkout to block a climate bill

 

The walkout meant Democrats didn’t have the quorum they needed to conduct business.

 

Update, Friday, June 28: Oregon Republican Senate Leader Herman Baertschiger Jr. said Republicans would return to work at the Oregon capitol on Saturday, ending the week-long walkout. Baertschiger said he confirmed with state Senate Democrats that they did not have the votes to pass their climate change bill. Read the post below, from Tuesday, on why Republicans fled the state.

 

A top Oregon Senate Democrat on Tuesday flinched in the face of a Republican walkout, acknowledging that there are not enough votes to pass a major bill to address climate change.

 

House Bill 2020 does not have the votes on the Senate floor,” said Senate President Peter Courtney Tuesday morning in an admission of defeat. “That will not change.”

 

more at:  Oregon Republicans to return after a week-long walkout to block a climate bill


JUST ONE MORE EXAMPLE OF REPUBLICANS EXERCISING - COURAGE

 

DEMOCRATS WOULD NOT DARE TO DO THIS

 

THAT WHY REPUBLICANS WON THIS BATTLE AND WIN MOST OTHERS LIKE THE APPROPRIATIONS BILL PELOSI JUST CAVED IN ON

 

HEY - PELOSI USES THE EXCUSE - WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING THAT IS CONTROVERSIAL - NO IMPEACHMENT - NO FILLIBUSTERS - NOTHING TO CAUSE WAVES

 

HEY - HOW COME THESE REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS ARE NOT WORRIED ABOUT MAKING WAVES

 

WELL ONE REASON IS - REPUBLICAN VOTERS REWARD COURAGE THAT RESULTS IN A WIN FOR CONSERVATISM

 

DEMOCRATIC VOTERS REWARD COWARDICE & AMBIVALENCE

 

 

 

 

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Oregon Republicans to return after a week-long walkout to block a climate bill

 

The walkout meant Democrats didn’t have the quorum they needed to conduct business.

 

Update, Friday, June 28: Oregon Republican Senate Leader Herman Baertschiger Jr. said Republicans would return to work at the Oregon capitol on Saturday, ending the week-long walkout. Baertschiger said he confirmed with state Senate Democrats that they did not have the votes to pass their climate change bill. Read the post below, from Tuesday, on why Republicans fled the state.

 

A top Oregon Senate Democrat on Tuesday flinched in the face of a Republican walkout, acknowledging that there are not enough votes to pass a major bill to address climate change.

 

House Bill 2020 does not have the votes on the Senate floor,” said Senate President Peter Courtney Tuesday morning in an admission of defeat. “That will not change.”

 

more at:  Oregon Republicans to return after a week-long walkout to block a climate bill


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LET'S TALK CLIMATE

 

Why? NO ONE CARES

 

Not Trump

 

Not Pelosi

 

Not Schumer

 

Not McConnell

 

Not the American Voters

 

On Tuesday, Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee devoted an entire hearing to the property tax complaints of wealthy suburbanites.

 

Under Trump’s 2017 tax bill, the government began collecting roughly $60 billion a year in new revenue from well-to-do households in higher-taxed blue states. The Trump provision, according to its architects, was a political attack on Democratic voters.

 

But the Democratic Party’s effort to reverse the tax hike is bizarre: About 52 percent of the money is extracted from families bringing in at least $1 million a year. Democrats are quite literally working to cut taxes for millionaires. 

 

DEMOCRATS IN THE SENATE COULD HAVE DELAYED THIS BILL PASSED BY BOTH THE HOUSE & SENATE INDEFINETELY

 

TO GET WHAT THEY SAID THEY WANTED ON IMMIGRATION

 

TO GET SOMETING BETTER ON CLIMATE CHANGE

 

THIS WAS A APPROPRIATIONS BILL - IT TAKES - 60 VOTES - TO PASS THE SENATE

 

THE DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS ARE ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THEIR VOTES IMPACT THEIR RE-ELECTION

 

MAKE AS FEW WAVES AS POSSIBLE SO THE ONLY THING VOTERS REMEMBER WHEN THEY GO TO THE POLLS - IS A FAMILIAR SOUNDING INCUMBENT NAME

 

THEY COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE CLIMATE - IMMIGRANTS - WARS

 

THEY COULDN'T EVEN GET THE VOTES TO SUPPORT A WAR POWERS ACT TO PREVENT TRUMP FROM GOING INTO IRAN WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL

 

PELOSI HAS NOT PASSED ANYTHING ON THIS ISSUE EITHER

 

 

 

 

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It's so hot in Spain that manure self-ignited, sparking a 10,000-acre wildfire @cnn   ( Jim Cantore -Weather Channel tweet ) 

 

NO END IN SIGHT.    Algae Blooms Fed by Farm Flooding Add to Midwest's Climate Woes ....All that water has flushed vast amounts of fertilizer and manure into waterways, triggering a potentially unprecedented season of ..Algae.  

 

It was 113 degrees in Paris France June 29th .., an all-time record high, French media says

Siberia is warming faster than anywhere in the world, warns top Russian geophysicist.


Leaders from the Group of 20 nations renewed their vow to take action to curb climate change but Trump stands apart.   OSAKA, Japan  


 

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