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 I may be somewhat confused. I hope you will educate me.  Why was Fomer U.N Ambasssor Samatha Power subpoenaed before congress? Moreover,  Why was she requesting  names of Trump's coterie contacting foreign governments? 

   Isn't That the resposibility of the Justice dept. i.e. F.B.I. not a U.N. ambassor.

 

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@MIseker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@mandm84 wrote:

Just add it to the LONG list of lies , but the sheep still follow !!! What do they tell their grandchildren ?


Baaaaa !!


How 'bout that, sports fans.....

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html


""Both FBI and NSD confirm that they have no records related to wiretaps as described by the March 4, 2017 tweets," the department's motion reads. NSD refers to the department's national security division.


Got it - the earier claim was that Trump lied and there were no wiretaps and now it is wiretaps as described by the March 4, 2017 tweets - another nit gets picked.

 

 


So Obama wiretapped Trump and the Whitehouse?  Where did you read that?


My major concern is the politicization of the intel community just as the IRS was politicized as in the Lois Lerner issue as was the DOJ was politicized via the "tarmac summit". Are you O.K. with that??

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Use the Clinton play book.... "at this point... what difference does it make"?


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@rk9152 wrote:

@MIseker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@mandm84 wrote:

Just add it to the LONG list of lies , but the sheep still follow !!! What do they tell their grandchildren ?


Baaaaa !!


How 'bout that, sports fans.....

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html


""Both FBI and NSD confirm that they have no records related to wiretaps as described by the March 4, 2017 tweets," the department's motion reads. NSD refers to the department's national security division.


Got it - the earier claim was that Trump lied and there were no wiretaps and now it is wiretaps as described by the March 4, 2017 tweets - another nit gets picked.

 

 


So Obama wiretapped Trump and the Whitehouse?  Where did you read that?


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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Never confuse Trump lovers with facts, they can't handle the truth about their hero. Nothing's changed since this thread was started. 

 

Here's a key point Trump Lovers don't understand because it's a fact. A U.S.  President cannot request or authorize wire taps because that isn't part of his or her legal authority. Only federal law enforcement officers can make such a request. Just on that alone, Trump's comments were absurd. Next, every law enforcement agency has clearly stated that never happened. 

 

The Justice Department said in a court filing Friday evening that it has no evidence to support President Donald Trump's assertion in March that his predecessor, Barack Obama, wiretapped the phones in Trump Tower before last year's election.

 

"Both FBI and NSD confirm that they have no records related to wiretaps as described by the March 4, 2017 tweets," the department's motion reads. NSD refers to the department's national security division.
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Well it looks like the original post and comments in this thread are not entirely accurate...

 

Washington (CNN)US investigators wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election, sources tell CNN, an extraordinary step involving a high-ranking campaign official now at the center of the Russia meddling probe.

 

The government snooping continued into early this year, including a period when Manafort was known to talk to President Donald Trump.
 
Some of the intelligence collected includes communications that sparked concerns among investigators that Manafort had encouraged the Russians to help with the campaign, according to three sources familiar with the investigation. Two of these sources, however, cautioned that the evidence is not conclusive.
 
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The EMOTIONS of the "never Trumpers" are wreaking havoc with their ability to think critically...
 
 
 
 
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Always remember, Trump supporters live in an alternate reality where facts don't matter and their hero is never held accountable for anything. That means Trump Lovers will ignore this factual report coming from the Justice Department and instead of acknowledging Trump told another horrendous lie, they will instead find a way to blame the press for making the pathological liar look bad again. Why do they idolize a man with no character?" 

"To be fair, this unfortunate trait of 'idoizing' the wrong people is not confined to only Republicans and conservatives, nor is living in an 'alternative reality'."

 

Good points, however, this has become far worse than one could ever imagine. It's literally turned into a cult where their hero can do no wrong. When I vote for any candidate for President, and after 8 months in office, he or she hasn't done anything, I would become frustrated and/or angry with the President. He's the one ultimately responsible. 

 

But since it's a cult, the cult members blame everyone except Trump. He's never responsible and he's never accountble to the voters. This is scary stuff.

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@CriticalThinking wrote:

Always remember, Trump supporters live in an alternate reality where facts don't matter and their hero is never held accountable for anything. That means Trump Lovers will ignore this factual report coming from the Justice Department and instead of acknowledging Trump told another horrendous lie, they will instead find a way to blame the press for making the pathological liar look bad again. Why do they idolize a man with no character?

 


To be fair, this unfortunate trait of 'idolizing' the wrong people is not confined to only Republicans and conservatives, nor is living in an 'alternative reality'.

I hardly think it was only Republicans who made The Apprentice a popular show watched by millions of people.  And Donald Trump as president is the same guy who was the pushy, self-aggrandizing boss on that show.  If everyone who voted for him could understand he was that same man they shouldn't act surprised at his actions as POTUS.

 

But the problem is people DON'T make any connections and party loyalty, as well as manufactured hatred for the "other" side means we ALWAYS end up with unacceptable leaders no matter what party they're from.

 

We make politicians into wealthy celebrities instead of public servants (as they are supposed to be) so it's not surprising that we would make a man who was already a  wealthy celebrity into our president.

We've already had a rich movie star as president, and now a rich reality show star. so the logical progression would be that we will live to see a rich football player as a future president.  And fitness to serve or qualifications for the job won't mean a thing to the people.

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@MIseker wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@mandm84 wrote:

Just add it to the LONG list of lies , but the sheep still follow !!! What do they tell their grandchildren ?


Baaaaa !!


How 'bout that, sports fans.....

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html


""Both FBI and NSD confirm that they have no records related to wiretaps as described by the March 4, 2017 tweets," the department's motion reads. NSD refers to the department's national security division.


Got it - the earier claim was that Trump lied and there were no wiretaps and now it is wiretaps as described by the March 4, 2017 tweets - another nit gets picked.

 

 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@ChasKy53 wrote:

@mandm84 wrote:

Just add it to the LONG list of lies , but the sheep still follow !!! What do they tell their grandchildren ?


Baaaaa !!


How 'bout that, sports fans.....

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/18/politics/paul-manafort-government-wiretapped-fisa-russians/index.html


AWESOME!!!  Hope they nail him and Flynn as was suggested in June, and anyone else who conspired against the American taxpayers/voters.


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