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Understand. Watched a program also that had a trump repub supporter on the panel. Everything always came back to Hillary, the Dems and Obama causing our current plight, blah, blah, blah, that trump has actually produced. 

They promote diversions from reality, and isn’t it that they follow trump by repeating the same lies and falsehoods over and over and over until the weak feeble minded supporters believe the false reality that they are being told is the truth and is reality. The act of dictatorial authoritarianism. It’s the truth because I say it is. 

Of course when we call them on it, they accuse us of lying, being liberal socialists, and blaming Hillary and Obama for our ills. But, in the final analysis, they are just trying to brainwash people...fortunately many of us resist and do not buy into their false narratives!

 

Never Forget


Of course it comes back to Hillary - it was her campaign (along with the DNC) that bought the "hit piece" that the corrupt Obama DOJ used.


The proven fact it was ordered by a Reb. for use in the Primary and they made a down payment. The Dems picked it up after that. Now tell us what has been proven false in the Steele doc.


The proven fact is that an R contracted for "opposition research". After the primaries, the contract was cancelled. Subsequently, the DNC and Hillary campaign contracted with the same company. The product of that contract was what was given to the corrupt elements of the DOJ to be used to spy on Americans.


Your statement is an admission that the Republicans started the Dossier. When the Republicans discovered things that incriminated their own, they "cancelled the contract" and the Democrats picked it back up with the same company, by your own admission. It is hypocritical of conservatives to condemn the Democrats and not condemn the Republicans for doing the same thing.


No it isn't.

 

It was cancelled when no longer needed - after the primaries.

 

The "condemnation" was not the contract - as you well know.

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Understand. Watched a program also that had a trump repub supporter on the panel. Everything always came back to Hillary, the Dems and Obama causing our current plight, blah, blah, blah, that trump has actually produced. 

They promote diversions from reality, and isn’t it that they follow trump by repeating the same lies and falsehoods over and over and over until the weak feeble minded supporters believe the false reality that they are being told is the truth and is reality. The act of dictatorial authoritarianism. It’s the truth because I say it is. 

Of course when we call them on it, they accuse us of lying, being liberal socialists, and blaming Hillary and Obama for our ills. But, in the final analysis, they are just trying to brainwash people...fortunately many of us resist and do not buy into their false narratives!

 

Never Forget


Of course it comes back to Hillary - it was her campaign (along with the DNC) that bought the "hit piece" that the corrupt Obama DOJ used.


The proven fact it was ordered by a Reb. for use in the Primary and they made a down payment. The Dems picked it up after that. Now tell us what has been proven false in the Steele doc.


The proven fact is that an R contracted for "opposition research". After the primaries, the contract was cancelled. Subsequently, the DNC and Hillary campaign contracted with the same company. The product of that contract was what was given to the corrupt elements of the DOJ to be used to spy on Americans.


Your statement is an admission that the Republicans started the Dossier. When the Republicans discovered things that incriminated their own, they "cancelled the contract" and the Democrats picked it back up with the same company, by your own admission. It is hypocritical of conservatives to condemn the Democrats and not condemn the Republicans for doing the same thing.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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If I go to Safeway and buy a frozen pizza and then you go into the same Safeway and buy the same pizza - are those two actions in some way related? It is the same with two political entities using the same resource.

 

My last sentence makes total sense and is the nub of the issue. As a Conservative (individualist) as opposed to a Progressive (collectivist), I need no leaders to do my thinking for me.

 

And, you are right, this enabler cannot understand the obsession of the left to undo an election by these means.


You should stick to Safeway as that makes sense but your try at the form subject doesn't.

Any particular reason?

You might check what the word conservative means as no far right can be one.

I fully agree. It is posters not understanding the meaning that have assigned us the adjectives Nazi, fascist, alt-right, sexist, racist, homophobe, xenophobe, etc.

I will agree thinking is something that is in very short supply with the far right. Just look at what we saw this afternoon with Trump at his meeting with the leaders of Congress. He came across as a very ill person.

Only to the hate filled. To the rational he came across as a pol committed to fulfilling his campaign promises and his obligations to America.

The mental health people will get rich treating the far right. Well we all know what the experts have told us are far right traits and we see that proved again.

"We" are just being offensive with that comment.

 


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

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@john258

Understand. Watched a program also that had a trump repub supporter on the panel. Everything always came back to Hillary, the Dems and Obama causing our current plight, blah, blah, blah, that trump has actually produced. 

They promote diversions from reality, and isn’t it that they follow trump by repeating the same lies and falsehoods over and over and over until the weak feeble minded supporters believe the false reality that they are being told is the truth and is reality. The act of dictatorial authoritarianism. It’s the truth because I say it is. 

Of course when we call them on it, they accuse us of lying, being liberal socialists, and blaming Hillary and Obama for our ills. But, in the final analysis, they are just trying to brainwash people...fortunately many of us resist and do not buy into their false narratives!

 

Never Forget


Of course it comes back to Hillary - it was her campaign (along with the DNC) that bought the "hit piece" that the corrupt Obama DOJ used.


The proven fact it was ordered by a Reb. for use in the Primary and they made a down payment. The Dems picked it up after that. Now tell us what has been proven false in the Steele doc.


The proven fact is that an R contracted for "opposition research". After the primaries, the contract was cancelled. Subsequently, the DNC and Hillary campaign contracted with the same company. The product of that contract was what was given to the corrupt elements of the DOJ to be used to spy on Americans.


What do you think it was called. Opposition research. Hillary picked up the project after the Reb. Primary, and paid for the rest of it. Your last sentence makes no sense and it looks like you did not understand what your leaders told you on this subject. Just another case of the far right enablers proving to all what the experts have told us are their main traits. Our poor far right enablers just do not understand any of this.


If I go to Safeway and buy a frozen pizza and then you go into the same Safeway and buy the same pizza - are those two actions in some way related? It is the same with two political entities using the same resource.

 

My last sentence makes total sense and is the nub of the issue. As a Conservative (individualist) as opposed to a Progressive (collectivist), I need no leaders to do my thinking for me.

 

And, you are right, this enabler cannot understand the obsession of the left to undo an election by these means.


You should stick to Safeway as that makes sense but your try at the form subject doesn't. You might check what the word conservative means as no far right can be one. I will agree thinking is something that is in very short supply with the far right. Just look at what we saw this afternoon with Trump at his meeting with the leaders of Congress. He came across as a very ill person. The mental health people will get rich treating the far right. Well we all know what the experts have told us are far right traits and we see that proved again.

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@john258 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

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@john258

Understand. Watched a program also that had a trump repub supporter on the panel. Everything always came back to Hillary, the Dems and Obama causing our current plight, blah, blah, blah, that trump has actually produced. 

They promote diversions from reality, and isn’t it that they follow trump by repeating the same lies and falsehoods over and over and over until the weak feeble minded supporters believe the false reality that they are being told is the truth and is reality. The act of dictatorial authoritarianism. It’s the truth because I say it is. 

Of course when we call them on it, they accuse us of lying, being liberal socialists, and blaming Hillary and Obama for our ills. But, in the final analysis, they are just trying to brainwash people...fortunately many of us resist and do not buy into their false narratives!

 

Never Forget


Of course it comes back to Hillary - it was her campaign (along with the DNC) that bought the "hit piece" that the corrupt Obama DOJ used.


The proven fact it was ordered by a Reb. for use in the Primary and they made a down payment. The Dems picked it up after that. Now tell us what has been proven false in the Steele doc.


The proven fact is that an R contracted for "opposition research". After the primaries, the contract was cancelled. Subsequently, the DNC and Hillary campaign contracted with the same company. The product of that contract was what was given to the corrupt elements of the DOJ to be used to spy on Americans.


What do you think it was called. Opposition research. Hillary picked up the project after the Reb. Primary, and paid for the rest of it. Your last sentence makes no sense and it looks like you did not understand what your leaders told you on this subject. Just another case of the far right enablers proving to all what the experts have told us are their main traits. Our poor far right enablers just do not understand any of this.


If I go to Safeway and buy a frozen pizza and then you go into the same Safeway and buy the same pizza - are those two actions in some way related? It is the same with two political entities using the same resource.

 

My last sentence makes total sense and is the nub of the issue. As a Conservative (individualist) as opposed to a Progressive (collectivist), I need no leaders to do my thinking for me.

 

And, you are right, this enabler cannot understand the obsession of the left to undo an election by these means.

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@john258 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

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@john258

Understand. Watched a program also that had a trump repub supporter on the panel. Everything always came back to Hillary, the Dems and Obama causing our current plight, blah, blah, blah, that trump has actually produced. 

They promote diversions from reality, and isn’t it that they follow trump by repeating the same lies and falsehoods over and over and over until the weak feeble minded supporters believe the false reality that they are being told is the truth and is reality. The act of dictatorial authoritarianism. It’s the truth because I say it is. 

Of course when we call them on it, they accuse us of lying, being liberal socialists, and blaming Hillary and Obama for our ills. But, in the final analysis, they are just trying to brainwash people...fortunately many of us resist and do not buy into their false narratives!

 

Never Forget


Of course it comes back to Hillary - it was her campaign (along with the DNC) that bought the "hit piece" that the corrupt Obama DOJ used.


The proven fact it was ordered by a Reb. for use in the Primary and they made a down payment. The Dems picked it up after that. Now tell us what has been proven false in the Steele doc.


The proven fact is that an R contracted for "opposition research". After the primaries, the contract was cancelled. Subsequently, the DNC and Hillary campaign contracted with the same company. The product of that contract was what was given to the corrupt elements of the DOJ to be used to spy on Americans.


What do you think it was called. Opposition research. Hillary picked up the project after the Reb. Primary, and paid for the rest of it. Your last sentence makes no sense and it looks like you did not understand what your leaders told you on this subject. Just another case of the far right enablers proving to all what the experts have told us are their main traits. Our poor far right enablers just do not understand any of this.

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@rk9152 wrote:

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@john258

Understand. Watched a program also that had a trump repub supporter on the panel. Everything always came back to Hillary, the Dems and Obama causing our current plight, blah, blah, blah, that trump has actually produced. 

They promote diversions from reality, and isn’t it that they follow trump by repeating the same lies and falsehoods over and over and over until the weak feeble minded supporters believe the false reality that they are being told is the truth and is reality. The act of dictatorial authoritarianism. It’s the truth because I say it is. 

Of course when we call them on it, they accuse us of lying, being liberal socialists, and blaming Hillary and Obama for our ills. But, in the final analysis, they are just trying to brainwash people...fortunately many of us resist and do not buy into their false narratives!

 

Never Forget


Of course it comes back to Hillary - it was her campaign (along with the DNC) that bought the "hit piece" that the corrupt Obama DOJ used.


The proven fact it was ordered by a Reb. for use in the Primary and they made a down payment. The Dems picked it up after that. Now tell us what has been proven false in the Steele doc.


The proven fact is that an R contracted for "opposition research". After the primaries, the contract was cancelled. Subsequently, the DNC and Hillary campaign contracted with the same company. The product of that contract was what was given to the corrupt elements of the DOJ to be used to spy on Americans.

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@rk9152 wrote:

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@john258

Understand. Watched a program also that had a trump repub supporter on the panel. Everything always came back to Hillary, the Dems and Obama causing our current plight, blah, blah, blah, that trump has actually produced. 

They promote diversions from reality, and isn’t it that they follow trump by repeating the same lies and falsehoods over and over and over until the weak feeble minded supporters believe the false reality that they are being told is the truth and is reality. The act of dictatorial authoritarianism. It’s the truth because I say it is. 

Of course when we call them on it, they accuse us of lying, being liberal socialists, and blaming Hillary and Obama for our ills. But, in the final analysis, they are just trying to brainwash people...fortunately many of us resist and do not buy into their false narratives!

 

Never Forget


Of course it comes back to Hillary - it was her campaign (along with the DNC) that bought the "hit piece" that the corrupt Obama DOJ used.


The proven fact it was ordered by a Reb. for use in the Primary and they made a down payment. The Dems picked it up after that. Now tell us what has been proven false in the Steele doc.

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@williamb39198 wrote:

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Understand. Watched a program also that had a trump repub supporter on the panel. Everything always came back to Hillary, the Dems and Obama causing our current plight, blah, blah, blah, that trump has actually produced. 

They promote diversions from reality, and isn’t it that they follow trump by repeating the same lies and falsehoods over and over and over until the weak feeble minded supporters believe the false reality that they are being told is the truth and is reality. The act of dictatorial authoritarianism. It’s the truth because I say it is. 

Of course when we call them on it, they accuse us of lying, being liberal socialists, and blaming Hillary and Obama for our ills. But, in the final analysis, they are just trying to brainwash people...fortunately many of us resist and do not buy into their false narratives!

 

Never Forget


Of course it comes back to Hillary - it was her campaign (along with the DNC) that bought the "hit piece" that the corrupt Obama DOJ used.

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Why for the dossier?

Once again:

It originated from a republican. 

No it didn't

It was an intelligence info document.

It was a "hit piece" 

Many items have a basis as real intelligence.

What does that have to do with the discussion? 

It was not the reason for a FISA order.

True - the reason for the warrant was to "get Trump" - It was a major tool

Previous intelligence on carter page was the reason for the FISA order.

Planted "intelligence 

So I guess this means Uranium One will be brought back too!!

Depends on what info is revealed

 

And what has this to do with the validity of the material based on who is requesting it?


 

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