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It Was a "Whites Only" Gas Station.....

After 60 Years, Girl's Experience At Whites-Only Gas Station Still Hurts

 

Francine Anderson grew up in a small town in Virginia in the 1950s. As a young black girl, she knew all too well about racism in the Jim Crow South — but it wasn't until one night, driving back home from her grandmother's house, that she truly understood the danger she faced because of the color of her skin.

 

"There's a road that was long and dark, and my father did what no black man at the time was supposed to do — allowed his car to run out of gas," Anderson, now 65, says. "He ended up pushing the car, and the only place he could get to was a white truck stop with the 'White Only' signs up."

 

When they got to the truck stop, Anderson says that despite the signs, her father went up and knocked on the door.

 

"A guy came up, he said, 'What are you doing, <n-word>? Get away from here — can't you read?'

 

And my dad, he took his hat and held it in his hand trying to make himself small, 'cause he was kind of a tall man," Anderson says. "He said to the guy, umm, 'I see your sign, sir. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to disturb you or your business. I just got my young kids in the car. Could I just buy a couple of gallons of gas?' "

 

Anderson says the guy responded, " 'I don't deal with your kind,' and he stepped back and he slammed the door."

 

Her father then turned and walked back to the car — and Anderson says that, in that moment, she knew he was afraid.

 

"He got in the car and I can remember asking him questions: 'Why can't we go? Why won't he give us any gas?' And he wasn't answering," she says. "It occurred to me as a little kid, 'we're in real trouble.' "

 

But then the door to the gas station opened and another man came out. Immediately, her father stiffened up.

 

Anderson says, "This guy got to the passenger window and said, 'I don't know what's wrong with that guy. I'm going to go get you some gas, OK?' " Anderson says. "I remember my dad was real grateful and saying, 'Let me give you these few dollars,' and the guy would say, 'No, no, it's OK.' "

 

In that moment, Anderson says she felt ashamed for her dad.

 

"Not because he'd done anything wrong, but because I felt like he had been made smaller in my eyes as a child," she says.

 

Whenever she talks to people about this story today, Anderson says she get mixed responses.

 

"If I talk to whites about that story, they focus on the man and how kind he was," Anderson says.

 

"And he was kind, but at the same time when I talk to blacks about that story they're more focused on the fact that it wasn't illegal for him to deny us gas."

 

She says that was the law of the land at the time.

 

"Had my dad been defiant, that's a risk ... you could be killed speaking up for yourself," Anderson says. "It's the first time that I realized that there was real danger there. I was 5 years old."

 

After 60 Years, Girl's Experience At Whites-Only Gas Station Still Hurts


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Any person who was white or passing for white during the '50s and 60s, having to pass through or live in the former confederate 'states' for some reason can likely relate similar experiences.  I hear so-called conservatives consistently declare that pretty much anything, including racial discrimination is somehow OK if both 'sides' do it.  It's not! 

 

The founding documents of this Nation declare that cannot be the case.  The first of them says, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal.....".....and then specifies what that concept means in unequivocal language.  Actions OR inactions that treat Men unequally violate that concept.  Legal or not.  

 

 

 

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@umbarch64 wrote:

Any person who was white or passing for white during the '50s and 60s, having to pass through or live in the former confederate 'states' for some reason can likely relate similar experiences.  I hear so-called conservatives consistently declare that pretty much anything, including racial discrimination is somehow OK if both 'sides' do it.  It's not! 

 

The founding documents of this Nation declare that cannot be the case.  The first of them says, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal.....".....and then specifies what that concept means in unequivocal language.  Actions OR inactions that treat Men unequally violate that concept.  Legal or not.  

 

I agree, Umbarch!  It's pathetic to see a couple whites claim they were discriminated against, too AND attempt to equate the two.  Were they ever denied a job because of their skin color?  Were they ever denied housing because they were white?  Were they ever pulled over and/or harassed because of their skin color?  Some are just incredibly clueless.

 

 


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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

 

I agree, Umbarch!  It's pathetic to see a couple whites claim they were discriminated against, too AND attempt to equate the two.  Were they ever denied a job because of their skin color?  Were they ever denied housing because they were white?  Were they ever pulled over and/or harassed because of their skin color?  Some are just incredibly clueless.

 

 


Of course some have lived in a pollyanna world where everything is perfect.  It is pathetic listening to their perfect little world.  There is, and has been discrimatory acts by Blacks towards Whites, Whites toward Blacks and other races and by Asians, etc towards others.

 

You have no idea of others' lives, but you judge others by your perhaps privileged life.  Several years ago we exchanged posts with a more civil tone that indicates that.  Posts here reveal much about a person's background.

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

 

I agree, Umbarch!  It's pathetic to see a couple whites claim they were discriminated against, too AND attempt to equate the two.  Were they ever denied a job because of their skin color?  Were they ever denied housing because they were white?  Were they ever pulled over and/or harassed because of their skin color?  Some are just incredibly clueless.

 

 


Of course some have lived in a pollyanna world where everything is perfect.  It is pathetic listening to their perfect little world.  You're in LaLa Land because I doubt anyone here lives in "a perfect world".  Though I do see posters who don't think they've experienced everything and no everything and don't attack others in every post.  These are the enjoyable posters here.

 

You have no idea of others' lives, nor, have I suggested such.  but you judge others by your perhaps privileged life.  I respond to their posts....and don't judge others, but I appreciate your concern.  Several years ago we exchanged posts with a more civil tone that indicates that.  Maybe that was before you made your leap to embracing the "me first" party.  Posts here reveal much about a person's background.  Said a poster who attacks others for "judging" others.  You just-can't-make-this-stuff-up.


 


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@Centristsin2010 wrote:


Of course some have lived in a pollyanna world where everything is perfect.  It is pathetic listening to their perfect little world.  You're in LaLa Land because I doubt anyone here lives in "a perfect world".  Though I do see posters who don't think they've experienced everything and no everything and don't attack others in every post.  These are the enjoyable posters here.

 

You have no idea of others' lives, nor, have I suggested such.  but you judge others by your perhaps privileged life.  I respond to their posts....and don't judge others, but I appreciate your concern.  Several years ago we exchanged posts with a more civil tone that indicates that.  Maybe that was before you made your leap to embracing the "me first" party.  Posts here reveal much about a person's background.  Said a poster who attacks others for "judging" others.  You just-can't-make-this-stuff-up.


 


I don't pretend to live in ''lala land" and apparently have had a full life for many decades.  I would venture that I've experienced more in life than some.  I believe that your posts speak for themselves as far as you saying you don't judge others.  And of course you enjoy those who is kumbaya with your posts.  And as far as judging others, that is evident by your posts. 

 

And in those civil posts we did exchange in the past, one could gather much from not only what was posted but by the tone of them.  And they reflected your 'me first' attitude along with subsequent posts.  There was no need to make stuff out of them as the posts revealed a lot.

 

As a final word, I have probably spent more time with minorities as a friend, visiting in their homes where some might have done so as having them as a caddy on the golf course or as a worker around the house. 

 

So, you continue to make this about me, or is it about you, instead of the topic? 

 

 

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

 

As a final word, I have probably spent more time with minorities as a friend, visiting in their homes where some might have done so as having them as a caddy on the golf course or as a worker around the house. 

 

 


The old phrase "SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE (insert minority here)" is overused but yet, here, we see it again.

 

It speaks volumes.

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@nctarheel wrote:


The old phrase "SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE (insert minority here)" is overused but yet, here, we see it again.

 

 


Where has any of that been mentioned?  But at least there are those of us who don't revert to claiming ethnic bias at the drop of a hat.  That has been overused by a poster here also.

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@nctarheel wrote:


The old phrase "SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE (insert minority here)" is overused but yet, here, we see it again.

 


Where has any of that been mentioned? 


It was in the your previous post. Do you not know what you wrote?

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@nctarheel wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@nctarheel wrote:


The old phrase "SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE (insert minority here)" is overused but yet, here, we see it again.

 


Where has any of that been mentioned? 


It was in the your previous post. Do you not know what you wrote?


Yes, do you?  And of course many of best friends are from minorities....in fact my very, very best friend is considered a minority... my wife.

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

 


Yes, do you?  And of course many of best friends are from minorities....in fact my very, very best friend is considered a minority... my wife.


One of my brothers was married to a woman from central Mexico. When she passed away, he married another woman from Mexico. He has always said (and still does) that he hates Mexicans. My sister in law told me in front of him that he is prejudiced, he hates Mexicans. She laughed and said that he calls her "Latino". He laughed and called us all "Liberals".

 

So you see ........... marrying a minority doesn't mean that someone isn't a racist or isn't bigoted.


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@ChasKy53 wrote:

 

So you see ........... marrying a minority doesn't mean that someone isn't a racist or isn't bigoted.


And I am not one of your brothers.  And not everyone is like one of your brothers.  I have been to many countries as I've frequently posted, and I've had good relations with the local nationals wherever I've been.  I've even visited in their homes and spent off-days with their families. 

 

I would question why anyone would marry someone of a nationality that they hated or disliked.  I also have to question why you made a post like that in an attempt to apply it to me. 

 

I've been married to my wife for over 45 years and I don't call her or slang based Vietnamese names.  And I doubt that we would have been married that long if I had. 

 

So what are you attempting to say by you bringing up one of your brothers?  I'd never be posting about someone of my family if they were like that.  But I will consider it as an attempt to insult. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

 


Yes, do you?  And of course many of best friends are from minorities....in fact my very, very best friend is considered a minority... my wife.


One of my brothers was married to a woman from central Mexico. When she passed away, he married another woman from Mexico. He has always said (and still does) that he hates Mexicans. My sister in law told me in front of him that he is prejudiced, he hates Mexicans. She laughed and said that he calls her "Latino". He laughed and called us all "Liberals".

 

So you see ........... marrying a minority doesn't mean that someone isn't a racist or isn't bigoted.


But it most likely means you are a liberal if you are racist.

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I wonder if those who obsess over race realize how much damage they are doing to those they claim to support. By constantly separating minorities out as somehow "different" they feed the needs of such people as the Kuxers as well as constantly telling the minorities that they are really not part of the mainstream community.

 

I understand it is a political ploy to garner votes by pols - if you can convince someone they are not capable and must depend on you for protection and the essentials of life, you may get some votes.

 

But, I cannot understand the motivation of the average person - unless it comes from the need to be "better" than someone else.

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@rk9152 wrote:

I wonder if those who obsess over race realize how much damage they are doing to those they claim to support.

 



That is much what I've been saying....they've been feeding the discrimatory rhetoric by repeatedly bringing it up.  Basically separately races into different groups rather then working towards a cohesive unit.  The topic of the thread comes cross as stressing discrimination rather than the racial understanding of the theme.

 

 

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

 

That is much what I've been saying....they've been feeding the discrimatory rhetoric by repeatedly bringing it up.  Basically separately races into different groups rather then working towards a cohesive unit.  The topic of the thread comes cross as stressing discrimination rather than the racial understanding of the theme.

 


I thought the philosophy of the 1950's was finally behind us but I guess not.

 

One's disdain for facing discrimination head on is well documented by your own voice below.

 

Just as Whites said in the 1950's when anyone brought up the injustices of discrimination against Blacks, you said:

 

"THEY'VE BEEN FEEDING THE DISCRIMINATORY RHETORIC BY REPEATEDLY BRINGING IT UP."

 

Oh, how you wish for the days gone past when injustice was swept under the rug and kept quiet.

 

That there is a cohesive coalition of people from DIFFERENT RACES regarding the issues surrounding the CONFEDERACY is scaring many White people to death as they now see that issues won't be swept under the rug and kept quiet anymore.

 

 

 

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@nctarheel wrote:

Oh, how you wish for the days gone past when injustice was swept under the rug and kept quiet.

 


You have no idea of what I wish for, but it isn't for someone to continue telling others what they think or wish for.  You and others here actually keep saying that no one is correct but you.  Again, you can't discuss anything but rather want to accuse, attack and denigrate others.

 

There is no doubt that the only reason is that you feel the same as you accuse others.   There are several like that here.

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@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@nctarheel wrote:

Oh, how you wish for the days gone past when injustice was swept under the rug and kept quiet.

 


You have no idea of what I wish for, but it isn't for someone to continue telling others what they think or wish for.  You and others here actually keep saying that no one is correct but you.  Again, you can't discuss anything but rather want to accuse, attack and denigrate others.

 

There is no doubt that the only reason is that you feel the same as you accuse others.   There are several like that here.


And, of course, not one word about the statement made by you that elicited that response.

 

Your statement was:

 

"THEY'VE BEEN FEEDING THE DISCRIMINATORY RHETORIC BY REPEATEDLY BRINGING IT UP."

 

That is exactly the philosophy held by Whites toward Blacks in the 1950's and early 1960's when the Civil Rights Movement was first being birthed.

 

Sorry, but no matter how bad you want to; we can't go back to those days.

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@nctarheel wrote:

That is exactly the philosophy held by Whites toward Blacks in the 1950's and early 1960's when the Civil Rights Movement was first being birthed.

 



I have to question how old some here was back in those days or were like a poster here who was at JFK's funeral procession with his parents because of his age. 

 

 

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@nctarheel wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@nctarheel wrote:

Oh, how you wish for the days gone past when injustice was swept under the rug and kept quiet.

 


You have no idea of what I wish for, but it isn't for someone to continue telling others what they think or wish for.  You and others here actually keep saying that no one is correct but you.  Again, you can't discuss anything but rather want to accuse, attack and denigrate others.

 

There is no doubt that the only reason is that you feel the same as you accuse others.   There are several like that here.


And, of course, not one word about the statement made by you that elicited that response.

 

Your statement was:

 

"THEY'VE BEEN FEEDING THE DISCRIMINATORY RHETORIC BY REPEATEDLY BRINGING IT UP."

 

That is exactly the philosophy held by Whites toward Blacks in the 1950's and early 1960's when the Civil Rights Movement was first being birthed.

 

Sorry, but no matter how bad you want to; we can't go back to those days.


I do not recall that sort of rhetoric back then and, quite frankly, it really does not fit the mindset of that time.

 

On the other hand, for a half century we have had rhetoric that says that black people cannot make it without the protection and largesse of we, the elite whites. It hasn't worked and yet it continues today.

 

Remember the title, "It was a Whites Only Gas Station". That no longer exists and yet some still want to find some problem to create so they can show their "goodness" by solving it. In the mean time, black people have to remain second class citizens to such people so that they and only they can "tend to" the problems of our black fellow citizens.

 

It is the elitism inherent in Socialism or Marxism - a separate, elite class is needed to take care of everyone else..

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@rk9152 wrote:

 

I do not recall that sort of rhetoric back then and, quite frankly, it really does not fit the mindset of that time.

 

On the other hand, for a half century we have had rhetoric that says that black people cannot make it without the protection and largesse of we, the elite whites.

 

In the mean time, black people have to remain second class citizens to such people so that they and only they can "tend to" the problems of our black fellow citizens.

 

 


Why would you call yourself an "ELITE WHITE" unless you meant it.

 

I am not an "ELITE WHITE" like yourself.

 

In your post you even admit having the rhetoric of an "ELITE WHITE" when you said, and I quote, "FOR A HALF CENTURY WE HAVE HAD RHETORIC THAT SAYS BLACK PEOPLE CANNOT MAKE IT WITHOUT THE PROTECTION AND LARGESS OF WE, THE ELITE WHITES.

 

What a racist statement that was.

 

That's why programs that have gained favor during the Civil Rights Movement period are seen as opportunities for a fair playing field by Whites like myself; while your description as an "ELITE WHITE" describes these programs as those of a PATERNAL PROTECTOR of his Black brethren.

 

If you don't remember the mindset of that time; that's on you.

 

The mindset took two forms. 

 

One was the philosophy noted above; that of a PATERNALISTIC WHITE SOCIETY taking care of "its" Blacks. 

 

The other philosophy is that proposed by another poster where if anyone proposed civil rights for all; they were told, "Be quiet, you are going to stir things up".

 

That poster's response to Charlottesville was that it was other persons, (NOT THE NAZIS, WHITE SUPREMACISTS, OR KKK MEMBERS) that were stirring things up. That the movement to remove statues and monuments that celebrate SLAVERY is just stirring things up.

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@nctarheel wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

 

I do not recall that sort of rhetoric back then and, quite frankly, it really does not fit the mindset of that time.

 

On the other hand, for a half century we have had rhetoric that says that black people cannot make it without the protection and largesse of we, the elite whites.

 

In the mean time, black people have to remain second class citizens to such people so that they and only they can "tend to" the problems of our black fellow citizens.

 

 


Why would you call yourself an "ELITE WHITE" unless you meant it. Another game player. You know that I didn't.

 

I am not an "ELITE WHITE" like yourself. I have no idea what you are. However, those of the mindset that says "blacks cannot make on their own, they need me to help them" is an elitist and a racist.

 

In your post you even admit having the rhetoric of an "ELITE WHITE" when you said, and I quote, "FOR A HALF CENTURY WE HAVE HAD RHETORIC THAT SAYS BLACK PEOPLE CANNOT MAKE IT WITHOUT THE PROTECTION AND LARGESS OF WE, THE ELITE WHITES. Either game playing or not thinking. The rhetoric was liberal society and government.

 

What a racist statement that was. I suspect you know better and are playing games.

 

That's why programs that have gained favor during the Civil Rights Movement period are seen as opportunities for a fair playing field by Whites like myself; while your description as an "ELITE WHITE" describes these programs as those of a PATERNAL PROTECTOR of his Black brethren. 50 years ago - if the programs were workable, they would be long gone by now.

 

If you don't remember the mindset of that time; that's on you. Games again - I said it does not fit the mindset of the time.

 

The mindset took two forms. 

 

One was the philosophy noted above; that of a PATERNALISTIC WHITE SOCIETY taking care of "its" Blacks. And that's the one I argue against.

 

The other philosophy is that proposed by another poster where if anyone proposed civil rights for all; they were told, "Be quiet, you are going to stir things up". 

And there is a third that has as it's objective to get people off of dependency.

 

That poster's response to Charlottesville was that it was other persons, (NOT THE NAZIS, WHITE SUPREMACISTS, OR KKK MEMBERS) that were stirring things up. That the movement to remove statues and monuments that celebrate SLAVERY is just stirring things up.

I don't know who "that poster" is but I didn't see any such posts. "This poster" said from the get go that there were two groups that came to town looking for a fight - and got it.

 

Just on the off chance that you were making an honest mistake and not playing games, let me clarify. "We have had for 50 years....." does not mean some group that I am a member of. It means that "we" as Americans.


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@nctarheel wrote:

@TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@nctarheel wrote:

Oh, how you wish for the days gone past when injustice was swept under the rug and kept quiet.

 


You have no idea of what I wish for, but it isn't for someone to continue telling others what they think or wish for.  You and others here actually keep saying that no one is correct but you.  Again, you can't discuss anything but rather want to accuse, attack and denigrate others.

 

There is no doubt that the only reason is that you feel the same as you accuse others.   There are several like that here.


And, of course, not one word about the statement made by you that elicited that response.

 

Your statement was:

 

"THEY'VE BEEN FEEDING THE DISCRIMINATORY RHETORIC BY REPEATEDLY BRINGING IT UP."

 

That is exactly the philosophy held by Whites toward Blacks in the 1950's and early 1960's when the Civil Rights Movement was first being birthed.

 

Sorry, but no matter how bad you want to; we can't go back to those days.


 

On the other hand, for a half century we have had rhetoric that says that black people cannot make it without the protection and largesse of we, the elite whites.

 

So, you're an "elite"....great, now you can speak for yourself instead of speaking for others that by default you refer to as "elites" and attempting to distance yourself from them.

 

It hasn't worked and yet it continues today.  So, you failed.  See if you can do better next time.

 

Remember the title, "It was a Whites Only Gas Station". That no longer exists and yet some still want to find some problem to create so they can show their "goodness" by solving it. Ahhhhh, more lies by "rk" in an attempt to distract from the title.....and the point.  Had you paid attention, you might have gotten the point is how whites view the story differently from blacks.  Though it's intersting to see how a racist might see this story.  "We helped them for a long time; it didn't work.  It's called Socialism".

 

In the mean time, black people have to remain second class citizens to such people so that they and only they can "tend to" the problems of our black fellow citizens.  It is sad to see Conservative's consistently spew their racist venom here on this forum referring to minorities as "second class citizens".  These are the deplorable trump supporters that Hillary referred to.

 

It is the elitism inherent in Socialism or Marxism - a separate, elite class is needed to take care of everyone else..You're failing Mr. Elite.

 

Just more of the same from the Conservatives.  They "discuss" by....."I'm gonna tell you what YOU think, and then I'm gonna attack it, and no, I don't care if that's not what you REALLY think; you have a different view than I do so you're a darn Far-Left-Liberal and you all think alike."  


 


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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

On the other hand, for a half century we have had rhetoric that says that black people cannot make it without the protection and largesse of we, the elite whites.

 

So, you're an "elite"....great, now you can speak for yourself instead of speaking for others that by default you refer to as "elites" and attempting to distance yourself from them.

Come on - stop playing games, you know what I meant.

 

It hasn't worked and yet it continues today.  So, you failed.  See if you can do better next time.

There is the definition of "insanity". I wonder if "you failed" was rhetoric or more game playing.

 

Remember the title, "It was a Whites Only Gas Station". That no longer exists and yet some still want to find some problem to create so they can show their "goodness" by solving it. Ahhhhh, more lies by "rk" in an attempt to distract from the title.....and the point.  Had you paid attention, you might have gotten the point is how whites view the story differently from blacks. Yes, and of importance is what are things like day to day today, not just perception of a half century ago. So, as you can see, rk did not lie. Though it's intersting to see how a racist might see this story.  "We helped them for a long time; it didn't work.  It's called Socialism". I don't know how Socialism got into it. I consider the "keep them dependent on us since they cannot make it  on their own" concept is racism.

 

 

In the mean time, black people have to remain second class citizens to such people so that they and only they can "tend to" the problems of our black fellow citizens.  It is sad to see Conservative's consistently spew their racist venom here on this forum referring to minorities as "second class citizens".  These are the deplorable trump supporters that Hillary referred to. Now, that's game playing. You know very well what I meant. Just to clarify - keeping people dependent is to make then second class citizens.

 

It is the elitism inherent in Socialism or Marxism - a separate, elite class is needed to take care of everyone else..You're failing Mr. Elite. Games again. It is not my political ideology that keeps people dependent on the government. But you knew that.

 

Just more of the same from the Conservatives.  They "discuss" by....."I'm gonna tell you what YOU think, and then I'm gonna attack it, and no, I don't care if that's not what you REALLY think; you have a different view than I do so you're a darn Far-Left-Liberal and you all think alike."  Is that like all the game playing you did above??

 

If you are interested in discussion, try this - does dependency not diminish people?


 


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

On the other hand, for a half century we have had rhetoric that says that black people cannot make it without the protection and largesse of we, the elite whites.

 

So, you're an "elite"....great, now you can speak for yourself instead of speaking for others that by default you refer to as "elites" and attempting to distance yourself from them.

Come on - stop playing games, you know what I meant.  Yeah, you mean to label others and then attack the label you provide....very similar to what Limblah does on a daily basis.  You don't get how asinine that it.  Has anybody here referred to themselves as an elitist?  No.  But your quick to label them as such.  Why is that?  Isn't it so you can disparage them?

 

It hasn't worked and yet it continues today.  So, you failed.  See if you can do better next time.

There is the definition of "insanity". I wonder if "you failed" was rhetoric or more game playing.  Keep wondering....your games are lame.....let's see....."let me label someone to make a point and then attack the label."  I get you don't understand how obvious your game is, but it's sad you don't see how lame it is.  You want to pigeon hole everyone that doesn't agree with your extremist views.....and attack them for everything YOU claim meets your definition.

 

Remember the title, "It was a Whites Only Gas Station". That no longer exists and yet some still want to find some problem to create so they can show their "goodness" by solving it. Ahhhhh, more lies by "rk" in an attempt to distract from the title.....and the point.  Had you paid attention, you might have gotten the point is how whites view the story differently from blacks. Yes, and of importance is what are things like day to day today, not just perception of a half century ago. So, as you can see, rk did not lie. Clearly a lie.  Who wanted to "find some problem"?  Yep, a lie!  Whose showing their "goodness"....yep, another lie.  Again, you make crap up and assign it to others.....then attack.  LAME!  Apparently living in reality is a challenge....Though it's intersting to see how a racist might see this story.  "We helped them for a long time; it didn't work.  It's called Socialism". I don't know how Socialism got into it. You don't?  My gosh, 'rk', you even don't know what you even post.....  EGADS!  I consider the "keep them dependent on us since they cannot make it  on their own" concept is racism.  I think YOUR belief that they "cannot make it on their own" is racism.  I think your insistance that others belief that is foolish and self-serving for your attacks.

 

In the mean time, black people have to remain second class citizens to such people so that they and only they can "tend to" the problems of our black fellow citizens.  It is sad to see Conservative's consistently spew their racist venom here on this forum referring to minorities as "second class citizens".  These are the deplorable trump supporters that Hillary referred to. Now, that's game playing. You know very well what I meant.  Sure do, "rk", sure do.  You enjoy peddling racism and trying to blame others.  Just to clarify - keeping people dependent is to make then second class citizens.  "keeping people dependent" is another "rk" myth.....don't worry, I know you absorbed it from Limblah.  Ditto heads are indeed brainwashed.

 

It is the elitism inherent in Socialism or Marxism - a separate, elite class is needed to take care of everyone else..You're failing Mr. Elite. Games again. It is not my political ideology oh, but it is....you've been trying to sell it here for years....

 


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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

It is the elitism inherent in Socialism or Marxism - a separate, elite class is needed to take care of everyone else..You're failing Mr. Elite. Games again. It is not my political ideology oh, but it is....you've been trying to sell it here for years....

 

 In reality, it exists and I have indeed been pointing it out for years.


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

It is the elitism inherent in Socialism or Marxism - a separate, elite class is needed to take care of everyone else..You're failing Mr. Elite. Games again. It is not my political ideology oh, but it is....you've been trying to sell it here for years....

 

 In reality, it exists and I have indeed been pointing it out for years.


 


The Progressive agenda is for the INDIVIDUAL to be able to take care of him/herself. To do that it is essential the Government balance the power of the Corporate Elite, which is the thrust of Demcoratic legislation.

 

Republicans seek to redistribute all wealth from the middle to the very top, and the top includes the "Corporate People" the Republicans think exist.

 

The elitism is all Republican - they constantly legislate so the Corporation will control and direct the lives of anyone outside the very top of the 1%, and no Government interference  in defense of the bottom 99% is tolerated.

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

It is the elitism inherent in Socialism or Marxism - a separate, elite class is needed to take care of everyone else..You're failing Mr. Elite. Games again. It is not my political ideology oh, but it is....you've been trying to sell it here for years....

 

 In reality, it exists and I have indeed been pointing it out for years.


 


The Progressive agenda is for the INDIVIDUAL to be able to take care of him/herself. To do that it is essential the Government balance the power of the Corporate Elite, which is the thrust of Demcoratic legislation.

If I understand that - under Progressivism people can take care of themselves using the money redistributed from those that have it.

 

Republicans seek to redistribute all wealth from the middle to the very top, and the top includes the "Corporate People" the Republicans think exist.

How so??

 

The elitism is all Republican - they constantly legislate so the Corporation will control and direct the lives of anyone outside the very top of the 1%, and no Government interference  in defense of the bottom 99% is tolerated.

For example.....  I think you are confusing the free market with government control of the lives of people.

 

With the exception of "From each......too each....." what do the neoMarxists do to permit independence of the individual (and that is really not offering independence)?


 

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

It is the elitism inherent in Socialism or Marxism - a separate, elite class is needed to take care of everyone else..You're failing Mr. Elite. Games again. It is not my political ideology oh, but it is....you've been trying to sell it here for years....

 

 In reality, it exists and I have indeed been pointing it out for years.


 No one has ever suggested it doesn't exist.....another one of your straw arguments.  What you've been "doing for years" is to attempt to brand other posters with your extremist views of them.  Rather lame, ineffective and unnecessary.


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@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@Centristsin2010 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

It is the elitism inherent in Socialism or Marxism - a separate, elite class is needed to take care of everyone else..You're failing Mr. Elite. Games again. It is not my political ideology oh, but it is....you've been trying to sell it here for years....

 

 In reality, it exists and I have indeed been pointing it out for years.


 No one has ever suggested it doesn't exist.....another one of your straw arguments.  What you've been "doing for years" is to attempt to brand other posters with your extremist views of them.  Rather lame, ineffective and unnecessary.


Confusing, but if I understand that, we are in agreement regarding:

"It is the elitism inherent in Socialism or Marxism - a separate, elite class is needed to take care of everyone else".

 

That is progress. Now as to "branding - have you not noticed that I have been called a racist, sexist, xenophobe, homohobe, Nazi, Fascist, Kluxer - even a Marxist recently. 

 

On the other hand, I have accurately described Marxism, described the advice of the Frankfurt School, the teachings of Piven and Cloward as well as Alinsky and compared them all to pols and posters. Seems a more intelligent approach than LOL, LMAO, and Bwahahahaha.

 

So, as to your "lame" comment - care to expand??

 

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