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And, what is a Foxbot?


A Foxbot is a person so unbelievably credulous that they believe whatever they see and hear on Fox - many Foxbots are also avid trump supporters who implicitly and without question believe little toadpotus and all of his lies...

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I smell a face saving ploy on the agenda for tomorrow night's Fantasy Island with Donald Trump.  I am betting

  • he declares a national emergency to build the wall. Then,
  • he signs a spending bill to open the government. Then 
  • he waits to lose the inevitable lawsuits 
  • Finally, he has another Fantasy Island with Donald Trump episode about how his hands are tied by that nasty old Constitution. 

We shall see if I am correct. 

 

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@Richva wrote:

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Effective border security requires an assortment of "tools" - in some areas physical barriers. What reality is lacking in an understanding of that?


Those of us who can see what a border wall is going to do to our lives here in the border lands. We are also the ones who can easily see how it won't work. Finally, if it is a rational mix of border security that Trump wanted, he would have signed the first bill both houses of Congress presented to him.  He had agreed to sign it so both sides knew what they were negotiating over and then he changed his mind, again.  

 

What part of bad governance is lacking in an understanding of that?


Except with computers, seeing things in a binary way leads to false conclusions. Physical barriers are not THE solution. They are one of many components in a border security package.


This is not a philosophical discussion over the efficacy of walls to impede human migration. It is a temper tanTrump over a SPECIFIC, needless 215mile addition to existing walls/barriers that has NO relation to border security.

 

And the upshot of the tanTurmp is 800,000 civil servants and several hundred thousand more contract workers WITHOUT a paycheck as the ToadPOTUS seeks the adoration of Foxbots.


Do the existing mile of wall accomplish the desired effect?

 

As to ToadPOTUS, tanTrump, and tanTurmp - who are you referring to? It would contribute to the discussion of you could be a bit more adult in your phraseology. It appears to are mad at someone. It would be smart to be a bit more clear.

 

And, what is a Foxbot?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@Richva wrote:

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Effective border security requires an assortment of "tools" - in some areas physical barriers. What reality is lacking in an understanding of that?


Those of us who can see what a border wall is going to do to our lives here in the border lands. We are also the ones who can easily see how it won't work. Finally, if it is a rational mix of border security that Trump wanted, he would have signed the first bill both houses of Congress presented to him.  He had agreed to sign it so both sides knew what they were negotiating over and then he changed his mind, again.  

 

What part of bad governance is lacking in an understanding of that?


Except with computers, seeing things in a binary way leads to false conclusions. Physical barriers are not THE solution. They are one of many components in a border security package.


This is not a philosophical discussion over the efficacy of walls to impede human migration. It is a temper tanTrump over a SPECIFIC, needless 215mile addition to existing walls/barriers that has NO relation to border security.

 

And the upshot of the tanTurmp is 800,000 civil servants and several hundred thousand more contract workers WITHOUT a paycheck as the ToadPOTUS seeks the adoration of Foxbots.

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   The RW appear to admit that a contiguous wall is not the solution.   Oh wait, that is exactly what Donald and his ignoble followers are demanding a full length wall / slat / fence etc.    

   The Senate has not been called into session and there is a process that is being proposed to make McConnell to get off his thumb and quit protecting Donald.    

 

    Best question of the day:   Assuming that Donald goes forward with his National Emergency Gambit, why didn't he do that in the first place and not force a Fed Shutdown that has negatively impacted both workers and citizens across the nation?  

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@Richva wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

Effective border security requires an assortment of "tools" - in some areas physical barriers. What reality is lacking in an understanding of that?


Those of us who can see what a border wall is going to do to our lives here in the border lands. We are also the ones who can easily see how it won't work. Finally, if it is a rational mix of border security that Trump wanted, he would have signed the first bill both houses of Congress presented to him.  He had agreed to sign it so both sides knew what they were negotiating over and then he changed his mind, again.  

 

What part of bad governance is lacking in an understanding of that?


Except with computers, seeing things in a binary way leads to false conclusions. Physical barriers are not THE solution. They are one of many components in a border security package.

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I think tha trump is at the mercy of his own inflated ego. There is no room for reality, for others, for compassion, for truth, or for caring. trump is at fault for all of his shortcomings, He can blame others, but at the end of the day, he has only himself to blame. 

And how can anyone make a deal with someone who does not keep their word, or goes back on a deal that he previously agreed to, or gives no one any authority to make a deal and if they do, he immediately undercuts them. 

And some wonder why we question his leadership, or total lack of. 

 

Never Forget


Effective border security requires an assortment of "tools" - in some areas physical barriers. What reality is lacking in an understanding of that?


What is lacking is intelligence and decency. The intelligence would prevent donny from thinking additional physical barriers are REQUIRED to improve our security and decency woud prevent him from causing 800,000 innocent people to survive without pay and forcing 420,000 of them to keep working as slaves.


"SLAVES" - a wee bit dramatic dontcha think? Slaves never got back pay after the pols got done playing games.

 

And those 800,000 innocent people. What were they innocent of to have you declare them such?? Are there no wife beaters involved - how about people with overdue parking tickets?

 

Ya see - drama, when analyzed comes across as a bit silly.

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@ChasKy53 wrote:

@rk9152 wrote:

@williamb39198 wrote:

I think tha trump is at the mercy of his own inflated ego. There is no room for reality, for others, for compassion, for truth, or for caring. trump is at fault for all of his shortcomings, He can blame others, but at the end of the day, he has only himself to blame. 

And how can anyone make a deal with someone who does not keep their word, or goes back on a deal that he previously agreed to, or gives no one any authority to make a deal and if they do, he immediately undercuts them. 

And some wonder why we question his leadership, or total lack of. 

 

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Effective border security requires an assortment of "tools" - in some areas physical barriers. What reality is lacking in an understanding of that?


Trump was offered a compromise by the Democrats containing $3.5 bIllion for border security, McConnell refused to vote on it and send it to trump, saying he wouldn't send a bill to the president that he wouldn't sign.

The concept of a "physical barrier" appears to be the sticking point

 

What reality is lacking in an understanding of that?

 

McConnell has also promised to block the new anti-corruption bill the Democrats are passing in the House.  What reality is lacking in an understanding of that?


It appears that the priority for the Reps is getting the government opened - not passing McCain-Feingold redux.

 

So, no reality lacking, just partisan politics.

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Effective border security requires an assortment of "tools" - in some areas physical barriers. What reality is lacking in an understanding of that?


Those of us who can see what a border wall is going to do to our lives here in the border lands. We are also the ones who can easily see how it won't work. Finally, if it is a rational mix of border security that Trump wanted, he would have signed the first bill both houses of Congress presented to him.  He had agreed to sign it so both sides knew what they were negotiating over and then he changed his mind, again.  

 

What part of bad governance is lacking in an understanding of that?

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@rk9152 wrote:

@williamb39198 wrote:

I think tha trump is at the mercy of his own inflated ego. There is no room for reality, for others, for compassion, for truth, or for caring. trump is at fault for all of his shortcomings, He can blame others, but at the end of the day, he has only himself to blame. 

And how can anyone make a deal with someone who does not keep their word, or goes back on a deal that he previously agreed to, or gives no one any authority to make a deal and if they do, he immediately undercuts them. 

And some wonder why we question his leadership, or total lack of. 

 

Never Forget


Effective border security requires an assortment of "tools" - in some areas physical barriers. What reality is lacking in an understanding of that?


What is lacking is intelligence and decency. The intelligence would prevent donny from thinking additional physical barriers are REQUIRED to improve our security and decency woud prevent him from causing 800,000 innocent people to survive without pay and forcing 420,000 of them to keep working as slaves.

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