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O.K. minute's up - individual rights vs cooperation between law enforcement agencies. It really isn't all that complex.

But obeying the law is not that complex either. Conservatives seem to forget about that inconvenient law thing.  That is why they are so happy when Trump slams cities which won't help and go crazy when a vendor is required to treat all customers equally. 

 

 Can you cite an example of President Trump going crazy over a vendor opting out of a contract offer?

 

And again, I fail to see the connection between how an individual citizen acts and cooperation between law enforcement agencies.


 


Many local jurisdictions decline to perform any aspect of enforcement activities that the feds are charged with performing.

 

Quite simply - it's not their job.

 

Additionally, the fact that some fed agencies have a reputation for being deadbeats - who - just like that lying scumbag trump has regularly stiffed contractors - they don't adequately compensate local jurisdictions for what their requests/demands have cost those local jurisdictions...

 

If local agencies waste time, money and resources doing for the feds what the feds should have been doing for themselves in the first place - you, the public, will have to accept shortcomings in local enforcement activities - pay higher taxes to cover for the feds - or accept the results of having LEOs in one's local force that are paid less well, and consequently perform less well - and may well end up costing jurisdictions considerable amounts in awards for improper/unlawful actions of less well trained officers...

 

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@Richvawrote:

@rk9152wrote:
O.K. minute's up - individual rights vs cooperation between law enforcement agencies. It really isn't all that complex.

But obeying the law is not that complex either. Conservatives seem to forget about that inconvenient law thing.  That is why they are so happy when Trump slams cities which won't help and go crazy when a vendor is required to treat all customers equally. 

 

 Can you cite an example of President Trump going crazy over a vendor opting out of a contract offer?

 

And again, I fail to see the connection between how an individual citizen acts and cooperation between law enforcement agencies.


 

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@rk9152wrote:
O.K. minute's up - individual rights vs cooperation between law enforcement agencies. It really isn't all that complex.

But obeying the law is not that complex either. Conservatives seem to forget about that inconvenient law thing.  That is why they are so happy when Trump slams cities which won't help and go crazy when a vendor is required to treat all customers equally. 

 

 

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There are legal ways for farm workers to be employed. What is your objection to going things legally.

 

It really has nothing to do with Presidents you do not like - it's been around for a long time.


Wait a minute.  Aren't the RWNJs the ones who damand that a baker not be forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding (the law) but now saying state governments should be forced to enforce Federal law in violation of the Constitution.? Do Conservatives believe in law at all or just what Trump decrees?


O.K. minute's up - individual rights vs cooperation between law enforcement agencies. It really isn't all that complex.

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@jfpinlvn  -  that same article also said that California's economy is "still moving in a positive direction", and that "we still added more jobs than Florida and Texas put together."

 

If California is a bad state for business, why is it leading the nation in job and GDP growth?

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@jfpinlvn  says: "This is the very type of issue that continues to make California a difficult place to do business and disincentivizes businesses to come here – and continues to drive successful businesses and taxpayers out of the state."

 

Really? There are many successful businesses that are based in California. Here are just a few:

 

Apple

Chevron

Wells Fargo

HP

Oracle

PG&E

Yahoo

Intel

Cisco

Disney

Facebook

EBay

Paypal

Qualcomm

VISA

Tesla

Nvidia

Netflix

Adobe

Symantec

Western Digital

Live Nation

Gap

Mattel

 

  


"California’s costly tax and regulatory policies prompted more than 10,000 businesses to leave the state, reduce their operations or curtail plans to locate here between 2008 and 2015, according to a report from Spectrum Location Solutions.

 

The Irvine-based company conducts site-selection studies and other assessments to help businesses relocate to optimum states and locales for their operations. Some of their clients include corporations that have relocated out of California, like Honda.

 

The report, “California Business Departures: An Eight-Year Review 2008-2015,” reveals that at least 1,687 California disinvestment events occurred during that period, a count that reflects only those that became public knowledge.

 

And for every disinvestment that became known — either through media reports, company announcements or company reports to the U.S. Department of Labor, the Securities and Exchange Commission or the California Employment Development Department — another five occurred, the report said.

 

In preparing the Spectrum report, site selection consultants and economic development personnel from across the U.S. were asked this question:

 

For every company that leaves an area — any area, not just California — how many others make such a move without any media coverage or without having to file a report with the state or federal government?

 

Responses ranged from five to seven, with a few indicating that as many as 10 additional businesses made disinvestment moves for every one that was known. Spectrum ultimately relied on the most conservative estimate of five. With that multiplier in mind, the total number of businesses disinvestment actions in the Golden State exceeded 10,000."

 

https://www.pasadenastarnews.com/2016/08/09/how-many-businesses-have-left-california-this-report-cla...

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@rk9152wrote:

There are legal ways for farm workers to be employed. What is your objection to going things legally.

 

It really has nothing to do with Presidents you do not like - it's been around for a long time.


Wait a minute.  Aren't the RWNJs the ones who damand that a baker not be forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding (the law) but now saying state governments should be forced to enforce Federal law in violation of the Constitution.? Do Conservatives believe in law at all or just what Trump decrees?

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@jfpinlvn  says: "This is the very type of issue that continues to make California a difficult place to do business and disincentivizes businesses to come here – and continues to drive successful businesses and taxpayers out of the state."

 

Really? There are many successful businesses that are based in California. Here are just a few:

 

Apple

Chevron

Wells Fargo

HP

Oracle

PG&E

Yahoo

Intel

Cisco

Disney

Facebook

EBay

Paypal

Qualcomm

VISA

Tesla

Nvidia

Netflix

Adobe

Symantec

Western Digital

Live Nation

Gap

Mattel

 

 

 

 

 

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@Olderscout66wrote:

As with most destructive addictions, its hard for the Red districts to "sober up" after decades of cheap labor for their farms, but Der Trumper has ended that joyride, and the tightwad Republican farmers of California are feeling the pinch - and the pain will not have faced between Harvest and November. I look for California to get a lot more blue as the folks who think Ike's still runing the GOP come face to face with what happens when you elect a SECOND gutless draftdodging preppytwit with even less brains and a bigger ego  than th e first.


There are legal ways for farm workers to be employed. What is your objection to going things legally.

 

It really has nothing to do with Presidents you do not like - it's been around for a long time.

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NO. I am saying if they violate the terms of their non-work visa and then lie about it on their citizenship application they are illegal. 

 

 


Perhaps you should tell that to the Immigration people?  Especially if you have definite proof that is the case. 

 

As long as she has that Certificate of Naturalization she is a legal citizen.


And, as long as she is one of the hundreds of other hookers sleeping with the current president.  HEY, if California is putting undocumented aliens on its advisory boards, I guess that settles the question of whether or not California has sobered up. 

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